Off Topic: “Moon-walker claims alien contact cover-up”

[jficquette]

Hi SD,

Read this link for fun. See what you think.
http://www.militaryremoteviewers.com/cia_remote_viewing_sri.htm

John

[jficquette]

[quote=gandalf]John, I have to tell you, I’ve got a totally mixed take on you. On the one hand, you’re a vocal Republican, out on in front leading the partisan charge. But you’re a Jets fan, so you can’t be that bad. Now this, with the ETs. I’m going out on a limb here, but I agree with you about the statistical probability of extra-terrestrial life. You’re right.

My take, the universe is too big and too old. Cellular Automata explains many natural phenomena here on Earth convincingly. Evolutionary processes, physical and biological systems, structures, patterns and behaviors are replicated throughout the natural world. In all likelihood, the same elements and forces that led to life here on Earth have been at work elsewhere in the Universe for billions of years.

So here’s my question: doesn’t this kind of perspective on the Universe make the whole human politics thing rather insignificant? How come you’re so vocal with the Republican advocacy thing? That puzzles me. You should be at Comic-Con or something, not trolling the Piggs board with Bush bombs. What gives?

[/quote]

I agree about how insignificant our politics are compared to ET’s running the Planet.

I hate bullies and so many people pile on Bush it just pisses me off so I tend to take up for him because I know that Bush has guts and determination and leadership and that is what you expect to have in a President. That’s all we can ask of the man.

As to why a person who believes in ET’s would care about politics well I care about how things are ran and I care about the world to come and I believe that we should do what we can to make it better for the next generation.

I sincerely believe that McCain would be the best man for the job. I ain’t saying he is going to be a great president but Obama is not even a real choice. You want him talking to Captain Zoomar from Sirius Prime??

John

[jficquette]

[quote=gandalf]John, I have to tell you, I’ve got a totally mixed take on you. On the one hand, you’re a vocal Republican, out on in front leading the partisan charge. But you’re a Jets fan, so you can’t be that bad. Now this, with the ETs. I’m going out on a limb here, but I agree with you about the statistical probability of extra-terrestrial life. You’re right.

My take, the universe is too big and too old. Cellular Automata explains many natural phenomena here on Earth convincingly. Evolutionary processes, physical and biological systems, structures, patterns and behaviors are replicated throughout the natural world. In all likelihood, the same elements and forces that led to life here on Earth have been at work elsewhere in the Universe for billions of years.

So here’s my question: doesn’t this kind of perspective on the Universe make the whole human politics thing rather insignificant? How come you’re so vocal with the Republican advocacy thing? That puzzles me. You should be at Comic-Con or something, not trolling the Piggs board with Bush bombs. What gives?

[/quote]

I agree about how insignificant our politics are compared to ET’s running the Planet.

I hate bullies and so many people pile on Bush it just pisses me off so I tend to take up for him because I know that Bush has guts and determination and leadership and that is what you expect to have in a President. That’s all we can ask of the man.

As to why a person who believes in ET’s would care about politics well I care about how things are ran and I care about the world to come and I believe that we should do what we can to make it better for the next generation.

I sincerely believe that McCain would be the best man for the job. I ain’t saying he is going to be a great president but Obama is not even a real choice. You want him talking to Captain Zoomar from Sirius Prime??

John

[jficquette]

[quote=gandalf]John, I have to tell you, I’ve got a totally mixed take on you. On the one hand, you’re a vocal Republican, out on in front leading the partisan charge. But you’re a Jets fan, so you can’t be that bad. Now this, with the ETs. I’m going out on a limb here, but I agree with you about the statistical probability of extra-terrestrial life. You’re right.

My take, the universe is too big and too old. Cellular Automata explains many natural phenomena here on Earth convincingly. Evolutionary processes, physical and biological systems, structures, patterns and behaviors are replicated throughout the natural world. In all likelihood, the same elements and forces that led to life here on Earth have been at work elsewhere in the Universe for billions of years.

So here’s my question: doesn’t this kind of perspective on the Universe make the whole human politics thing rather insignificant? How come you’re so vocal with the Republican advocacy thing? That puzzles me. You should be at Comic-Con or something, not trolling the Piggs board with Bush bombs. What gives?

[/quote]

I agree about how insignificant our politics are compared to ET’s running the Planet.

I hate bullies and so many people pile on Bush it just pisses me off so I tend to take up for him because I know that Bush has guts and determination and leadership and that is what you expect to have in a President. That’s all we can ask of the man.

As to why a person who believes in ET’s would care about politics well I care about how things are ran and I care about the world to come and I believe that we should do what we can to make it better for the next generation.

I sincerely believe that McCain would be the best man for the job. I ain’t saying he is going to be a great president but Obama is not even a real choice. You want him talking to Captain Zoomar from Sirius Prime??

John

[jficquette]

[quote=gandalf]John, I have to tell you, I’ve got a totally mixed take on you. On the one hand, you’re a vocal Republican, out on in front leading the partisan charge. But you’re a Jets fan, so you can’t be that bad. Now this, with the ETs. I’m going out on a limb here, but I agree with you about the statistical probability of extra-terrestrial life. You’re right.

My take, the universe is too big and too old. Cellular Automata explains many natural phenomena here on Earth convincingly. Evolutionary processes, physical and biological systems, structures, patterns and behaviors are replicated throughout the natural world. In all likelihood, the same elements and forces that led to life here on Earth have been at work elsewhere in the Universe for billions of years.

So here’s my question: doesn’t this kind of perspective on the Universe make the whole human politics thing rather insignificant? How come you’re so vocal with the Republican advocacy thing? That puzzles me. You should be at Comic-Con or something, not trolling the Piggs board with Bush bombs. What gives?

[/quote]

I agree about how insignificant our politics are compared to ET’s running the Planet.

I hate bullies and so many people pile on Bush it just pisses me off so I tend to take up for him because I know that Bush has guts and determination and leadership and that is what you expect to have in a President. That’s all we can ask of the man.

As to why a person who believes in ET’s would care about politics well I care about how things are ran and I care about the world to come and I believe that we should do what we can to make it better for the next generation.

I sincerely believe that McCain would be the best man for the job. I ain’t saying he is going to be a great president but Obama is not even a real choice. You want him talking to Captain Zoomar from Sirius Prime??

John

[jficquette]

[quote=gandalf]John, I have to tell you, I’ve got a totally mixed take on you. On the one hand, you’re a vocal Republican, out on in front leading the partisan charge. But you’re a Jets fan, so you can’t be that bad. Now this, with the ETs. I’m going out on a limb here, but I agree with you about the statistical probability of extra-terrestrial life. You’re right.

My take, the universe is too big and too old. Cellular Automata explains many natural phenomena here on Earth convincingly. Evolutionary processes, physical and biological systems, structures, patterns and behaviors are replicated throughout the natural world. In all likelihood, the same elements and forces that led to life here on Earth have been at work elsewhere in the Universe for billions of years.

So here’s my question: doesn’t this kind of perspective on the Universe make the whole human politics thing rather insignificant? How come you’re so vocal with the Republican advocacy thing? That puzzles me. You should be at Comic-Con or something, not trolling the Piggs board with Bush bombs. What gives?

[/quote]

I agree about how insignificant our politics are compared to ET’s running the Planet.

I hate bullies and so many people pile on Bush it just pisses me off so I tend to take up for him because I know that Bush has guts and determination and leadership and that is what you expect to have in a President. That’s all we can ask of the man.

As to why a person who believes in ET’s would care about politics well I care about how things are ran and I care about the world to come and I believe that we should do what we can to make it better for the next generation.

I sincerely believe that McCain would be the best man for the job. I ain’t saying he is going to be a great president but Obama is not even a real choice. You want him talking to Captain Zoomar from Sirius Prime??

John

[gandalf]

Okay, last part made me laugh.

What is that, Adams? Vonnegut?

You know, if you think about it, part of what’s made me so combative last month or so (101st Fighting Keyboarders), are these ridiculous topics you post. A bunch of us are just screaming: “Get it off the Piggs!” There was even a topic trying to get you kicked off. Alas, it was crazy Marion!

Seriously, I don’t think I would have posted the “Obama is Conservative” topic if it hadn’t been for those “Obama is a Illegal Alien”, and “Obama Lied on His Resume”, and “Obama This-n-That” stuff. It’s overboard. Best topic was sdgrrl with that “Obama Kills Babies in the Sudan” post.

After all this settles down, you should post what you think about Bush. There’s going to be lots written about that guy, some of it good, but mostly bad unfortunately. It’ll be an interesting discussion one of these days.

I’ll give Bush this, I think he’s right about the larger issues we face. For example, I think Al Qaeda is a very grave threat, particularly in connection with missing Soviet nukes. That’s the big one. I don’t think Bush is wrong about that.

My main issue with Bush is I think he’s been derelict in the execution of his office. The incompetence would be forgiveable if he was a good guy, but he’s not. The whole republican team has spent the past 8 years villifying democrats, American-against-American, as if 50% of America was the enemy. That, above all else, is what turned me against them. The ruthless partisanship in a time of war and crisis. So I don’t have any good will left towards them.

I don’t know that I’m comfortable with the democratic party, but it’ll be a while before I vote ‘R’ again. I think ‘GDI’ fits for now, goddamn-independent. Is it possible to be an ‘extreme moderate’? I think that’s where I am right now. Apologies for the name-calling, BTW.

[gandalf]

Okay, last part made me laugh.

What is that, Adams? Vonnegut?

You know, if you think about it, part of what’s made me so combative last month or so (101st Fighting Keyboarders), are these ridiculous topics you post. A bunch of us are just screaming: “Get it off the Piggs!” There was even a topic trying to get you kicked off. Alas, it was crazy Marion!

Seriously, I don’t think I would have posted the “Obama is Conservative” topic if it hadn’t been for those “Obama is a Illegal Alien”, and “Obama Lied on His Resume”, and “Obama This-n-That” stuff. It’s overboard. Best topic was sdgrrl with that “Obama Kills Babies in the Sudan” post.

After all this settles down, you should post what you think about Bush. There’s going to be lots written about that guy, some of it good, but mostly bad unfortunately. It’ll be an interesting discussion one of these days.

I’ll give Bush this, I think he’s right about the larger issues we face. For example, I think Al Qaeda is a very grave threat, particularly in connection with missing Soviet nukes. That’s the big one. I don’t think Bush is wrong about that.

My main issue with Bush is I think he’s been derelict in the execution of his office. The incompetence would be forgiveable if he was a good guy, but he’s not. The whole republican team has spent the past 8 years villifying democrats, American-against-American, as if 50% of America was the enemy. That, above all else, is what turned me against them. The ruthless partisanship in a time of war and crisis. So I don’t have any good will left towards them.

I don’t know that I’m comfortable with the democratic party, but it’ll be a while before I vote ‘R’ again. I think ‘GDI’ fits for now, goddamn-independent. Is it possible to be an ‘extreme moderate’? I think that’s where I am right now. Apologies for the name-calling, BTW.

[gandalf]

Okay, last part made me laugh.

What is that, Adams? Vonnegut?

You know, if you think about it, part of what’s made me so combative last month or so (101st Fighting Keyboarders), are these ridiculous topics you post. A bunch of us are just screaming: “Get it off the Piggs!” There was even a topic trying to get you kicked off. Alas, it was crazy Marion!

Seriously, I don’t think I would have posted the “Obama is Conservative” topic if it hadn’t been for those “Obama is a Illegal Alien”, and “Obama Lied on His Resume”, and “Obama This-n-That” stuff. It’s overboard. Best topic was sdgrrl with that “Obama Kills Babies in the Sudan” post.

After all this settles down, you should post what you think about Bush. There’s going to be lots written about that guy, some of it good, but mostly bad unfortunately. It’ll be an interesting discussion one of these days.

I’ll give Bush this, I think he’s right about the larger issues we face. For example, I think Al Qaeda is a very grave threat, particularly in connection with missing Soviet nukes. That’s the big one. I don’t think Bush is wrong about that.

My main issue with Bush is I think he’s been derelict in the execution of his office. The incompetence would be forgiveable if he was a good guy, but he’s not. The whole republican team has spent the past 8 years villifying democrats, American-against-American, as if 50% of America was the enemy. That, above all else, is what turned me against them. The ruthless partisanship in a time of war and crisis. So I don’t have any good will left towards them.

I don’t know that I’m comfortable with the democratic party, but it’ll be a while before I vote ‘R’ again. I think ‘GDI’ fits for now, goddamn-independent. Is it possible to be an ‘extreme moderate’? I think that’s where I am right now. Apologies for the name-calling, BTW.

[gandalf]

Okay, last part made me laugh.

What is that, Adams? Vonnegut?

You know, if you think about it, part of what’s made me so combative last month or so (101st Fighting Keyboarders), are these ridiculous topics you post. A bunch of us are just screaming: “Get it off the Piggs!” There was even a topic trying to get you kicked off. Alas, it was crazy Marion!

Seriously, I don’t think I would have posted the “Obama is Conservative” topic if it hadn’t been for those “Obama is a Illegal Alien”, and “Obama Lied on His Resume”, and “Obama This-n-That” stuff. It’s overboard. Best topic was sdgrrl with that “Obama Kills Babies in the Sudan” post.

After all this settles down, you should post what you think about Bush. There’s going to be lots written about that guy, some of it good, but mostly bad unfortunately. It’ll be an interesting discussion one of these days.

I’ll give Bush this, I think he’s right about the larger issues we face. For example, I think Al Qaeda is a very grave threat, particularly in connection with missing Soviet nukes. That’s the big one. I don’t think Bush is wrong about that.

My main issue with Bush is I think he’s been derelict in the execution of his office. The incompetence would be forgiveable if he was a good guy, but he’s not. The whole republican team has spent the past 8 years villifying democrats, American-against-American, as if 50% of America was the enemy. That, above all else, is what turned me against them. The ruthless partisanship in a time of war and crisis. So I don’t have any good will left towards them.

I don’t know that I’m comfortable with the democratic party, but it’ll be a while before I vote ‘R’ again. I think ‘GDI’ fits for now, goddamn-independent. Is it possible to be an ‘extreme moderate’? I think that’s where I am right now. Apologies for the name-calling, BTW.

[gandalf]

Okay, last part made me laugh.

What is that, Adams? Vonnegut?

You know, if you think about it, part of what’s made me so combative last month or so (101st Fighting Keyboarders), are these ridiculous topics you post. A bunch of us are just screaming: “Get it off the Piggs!” There was even a topic trying to get you kicked off. Alas, it was crazy Marion!

Seriously, I don’t think I would have posted the “Obama is Conservative” topic if it hadn’t been for those “Obama is a Illegal Alien”, and “Obama Lied on His Resume”, and “Obama This-n-That” stuff. It’s overboard. Best topic was sdgrrl with that “Obama Kills Babies in the Sudan” post.

After all this settles down, you should post what you think about Bush. There’s going to be lots written about that guy, some of it good, but mostly bad unfortunately. It’ll be an interesting discussion one of these days.

I’ll give Bush this, I think he’s right about the larger issues we face. For example, I think Al Qaeda is a very grave threat, particularly in connection with missing Soviet nukes. That’s the big one. I don’t think Bush is wrong about that.

My main issue with Bush is I think he’s been derelict in the execution of his office. The incompetence would be forgiveable if he was a good guy, but he’s not. The whole republican team has spent the past 8 years villifying democrats, American-against-American, as if 50% of America was the enemy. That, above all else, is what turned me against them. The ruthless partisanship in a time of war and crisis. So I don’t have any good will left towards them.

I don’t know that I’m comfortable with the democratic party, but it’ll be a while before I vote ‘R’ again. I think ‘GDI’ fits for now, goddamn-independent. Is it possible to be an ‘extreme moderate’? I think that’s where I am right now. Apologies for the name-calling, BTW.

[SDEngineer]

[quote=jficquette]Hi SD,

Read this link for fun. See what you think.
http://www.militaryremoteviewers.com/cia_remote_viewing_sri.htm

John
[/quote]

Considering Puthoff was also convinced that Uri Geller was the real thing, I’m not convinced that any research which he directed would have been rigourous or devoid of observational or experimental bias. I especially thought that the fact that the purported psychic with the “remote viewing” ability got to suggest many of the more advanced tests is a bit like allowing Uri Geller his own spoons to bend (oddly, Uri has never been able to bend a skeptics spoon). His initial “hit” that landed the contract sounded quite a lot like he was “cold reading” the people holding the boxes as well.

James Randi (of CSICOP) currently has a $1 million dollar prize available for anyone who can demonstrate remote viewing under controlled scientific circumstances. Nobody has collected yet.

[SDEngineer]

[quote=jficquette]Hi SD,

Read this link for fun. See what you think.
http://www.militaryremoteviewers.com/cia_remote_viewing_sri.htm

John
[/quote]

Considering Puthoff was also convinced that Uri Geller was the real thing, I’m not convinced that any research which he directed would have been rigourous or devoid of observational or experimental bias. I especially thought that the fact that the purported psychic with the “remote viewing” ability got to suggest many of the more advanced tests is a bit like allowing Uri Geller his own spoons to bend (oddly, Uri has never been able to bend a skeptics spoon). His initial “hit” that landed the contract sounded quite a lot like he was “cold reading” the people holding the boxes as well.

James Randi (of CSICOP) currently has a $1 million dollar prize available for anyone who can demonstrate remote viewing under controlled scientific circumstances. Nobody has collected yet.

[SDEngineer]

[quote=jficquette]Hi SD,

Read this link for fun. See what you think.
http://www.militaryremoteviewers.com/cia_remote_viewing_sri.htm

John
[/quote]

Considering Puthoff was also convinced that Uri Geller was the real thing, I’m not convinced that any research which he directed would have been rigourous or devoid of observational or experimental bias. I especially thought that the fact that the purported psychic with the “remote viewing” ability got to suggest many of the more advanced tests is a bit like allowing Uri Geller his own spoons to bend (oddly, Uri has never been able to bend a skeptics spoon). His initial “hit” that landed the contract sounded quite a lot like he was “cold reading” the people holding the boxes as well.

James Randi (of CSICOP) currently has a $1 million dollar prize available for anyone who can demonstrate remote viewing under controlled scientific circumstances. Nobody has collected yet.

[SDEngineer]

[quote=jficquette]Hi SD,

Read this link for fun. See what you think.
http://www.militaryremoteviewers.com/cia_remote_viewing_sri.htm

John
[/quote]

Considering Puthoff was also convinced that Uri Geller was the real thing, I’m not convinced that any research which he directed would have been rigourous or devoid of observational or experimental bias. I especially thought that the fact that the purported psychic with the “remote viewing” ability got to suggest many of the more advanced tests is a bit like allowing Uri Geller his own spoons to bend (oddly, Uri has never been able to bend a skeptics spoon). His initial “hit” that landed the contract sounded quite a lot like he was “cold reading” the people holding the boxes as well.

James Randi (of CSICOP) currently has a $1 million dollar prize available for anyone who can demonstrate remote viewing under controlled scientific circumstances. Nobody has collected yet.

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