ObamaCare…coming soon

[Zeitgeist]

Stossel destroys Obamacare on You Tube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9GMKK_fWKg

How’s that hope and change thing working for you Kool-Aid drinkers now?

[sdgrrl]

I’m just happy you are using Stossel and not Michelle Malkin to back up your claims this time.

I find it ironic that Stossel’s first interview is with Sally Pipes from the Pacific Research Institute which is a Conservative Think Tank founded in 1979 in San Fran. Hmmm…thanks Zeit I guess they wouldn’t have their own agenda right.

Steven F. Hayward is their Senior Fellow of Environmental Studies and it seems among many connections he has is the National Review, The Weekly Standard(lovingly thought of as the neocon bible) and The Heritage Foundation, where he was a Bradly Fellow and which is a relatively new Conservative Think Tank and ran by “…Edwin Feulner, previously the staff director of the House Republican Study Committee and a former staff assistant to U.S. Congressman Phil Crane, R-Illinois:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Heritage_Foundation

They have also enjoyed many donations from Phillip Morris. How is that for an oxymoron. “Yes we are going to tell you Obamacare is bad, but smoking…not so bad”.

So then lets go on to David Gratzer. Looks like a respectable guy-I’m sure he is. Let’s see who he works for. Okay, he is the Senior Fellow for Manhattan Institute for Policy Research which is a right wing think Tank founded in 1978 by William J. Casey who…what is this? Who later became President Ronald Reagan’s CIA director:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhattan_Institute

I like how Stossel omits Gratzer’s connection to the Think Tank…

It looks like Phillip Morris has also given donations to them. Gotta love a doctor who will tell you to be healthy and then take a handout from the number one killer in America:

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Steven_F._Hayward

Wow and then his last interview is with a woman from the Galen Institute. Even Conservatives know that the Institute has a conservative bias:

http://www.philanthropy.iupui.edu/Millennium/usefulInformation/Conservative%20Philanthropy%20&%20Healthcare.pdf

No agenda with any of these? right

Take a sip of this nice Kool Aid Zeitgeist its been a hot one. Next!

Here is my favorite Stossel clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-k2uJ3AmVE

[sdgrrl]

I’m just happy you are using Stossel and not Michelle Malkin to back up your claims this time.

I find it ironic that Stossel’s first interview is with Sally Pipes from the Pacific Research Institute which is a Conservative Think Tank founded in 1979 in San Fran. Hmmm…thanks Zeit I guess they wouldn’t have their own agenda right.

Steven F. Hayward is their Senior Fellow of Environmental Studies and it seems among many connections he has is the National Review, The Weekly Standard(lovingly thought of as the neocon bible) and The Heritage Foundation, where he was a Bradly Fellow and which is a relatively new Conservative Think Tank and ran by “…Edwin Feulner, previously the staff director of the House Republican Study Committee and a former staff assistant to U.S. Congressman Phil Crane, R-Illinois:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Heritage_Foundation

They have also enjoyed many donations from Phillip Morris. How is that for an oxymoron. “Yes we are going to tell you Obamacare is bad, but smoking…not so bad”.

So then lets go on to David Gratzer. Looks like a respectable guy-I’m sure he is. Let’s see who he works for. Okay, he is the Senior Fellow for Manhattan Institute for Policy Research which is a right wing think Tank founded in 1978 by William J. Casey who…what is this? Who later became President Ronald Reagan’s CIA director:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhattan_Institute

I like how Stossel omits Gratzer’s connection to the Think Tank…

It looks like Phillip Morris has also given donations to them. Gotta love a doctor who will tell you to be healthy and then take a handout from the number one killer in America:

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Steven_F._Hayward

Wow and then his last interview is with a woman from the Galen Institute. Even Conservatives know that the Institute has a conservative bias:

http://www.philanthropy.iupui.edu/Millennium/usefulInformation/Conservative%20Philanthropy%20&%20Healthcare.pdf

No agenda with any of these? right

Take a sip of this nice Kool Aid Zeitgeist its been a hot one. Next!

Here is my favorite Stossel clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-k2uJ3AmVE

[sdgrrl]

I’m just happy you are using Stossel and not Michelle Malkin to back up your claims this time.

I find it ironic that Stossel’s first interview is with Sally Pipes from the Pacific Research Institute which is a Conservative Think Tank founded in 1979 in San Fran. Hmmm…thanks Zeit I guess they wouldn’t have their own agenda right.

Steven F. Hayward is their Senior Fellow of Environmental Studies and it seems among many connections he has is the National Review, The Weekly Standard(lovingly thought of as the neocon bible) and The Heritage Foundation, where he was a Bradly Fellow and which is a relatively new Conservative Think Tank and ran by “…Edwin Feulner, previously the staff director of the House Republican Study Committee and a former staff assistant to U.S. Congressman Phil Crane, R-Illinois:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Heritage_Foundation

They have also enjoyed many donations from Phillip Morris. How is that for an oxymoron. “Yes we are going to tell you Obamacare is bad, but smoking…not so bad”.

So then lets go on to David Gratzer. Looks like a respectable guy-I’m sure he is. Let’s see who he works for. Okay, he is the Senior Fellow for Manhattan Institute for Policy Research which is a right wing think Tank founded in 1978 by William J. Casey who…what is this? Who later became President Ronald Reagan’s CIA director:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhattan_Institute

I like how Stossel omits Gratzer’s connection to the Think Tank…

It looks like Phillip Morris has also given donations to them. Gotta love a doctor who will tell you to be healthy and then take a handout from the number one killer in America:

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Steven_F._Hayward

Wow and then his last interview is with a woman from the Galen Institute. Even Conservatives know that the Institute has a conservative bias:

http://www.philanthropy.iupui.edu/Millennium/usefulInformation/Conservative%20Philanthropy%20&%20Healthcare.pdf

No agenda with any of these? right

Take a sip of this nice Kool Aid Zeitgeist its been a hot one. Next!

Here is my favorite Stossel clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-k2uJ3AmVE

[sdgrrl]

I’m just happy you are using Stossel and not Michelle Malkin to back up your claims this time.

I find it ironic that Stossel’s first interview is with Sally Pipes from the Pacific Research Institute which is a Conservative Think Tank founded in 1979 in San Fran. Hmmm…thanks Zeit I guess they wouldn’t have their own agenda right.

Steven F. Hayward is their Senior Fellow of Environmental Studies and it seems among many connections he has is the National Review, The Weekly Standard(lovingly thought of as the neocon bible) and The Heritage Foundation, where he was a Bradly Fellow and which is a relatively new Conservative Think Tank and ran by “…Edwin Feulner, previously the staff director of the House Republican Study Committee and a former staff assistant to U.S. Congressman Phil Crane, R-Illinois:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Heritage_Foundation

They have also enjoyed many donations from Phillip Morris. How is that for an oxymoron. “Yes we are going to tell you Obamacare is bad, but smoking…not so bad”.

So then lets go on to David Gratzer. Looks like a respectable guy-I’m sure he is. Let’s see who he works for. Okay, he is the Senior Fellow for Manhattan Institute for Policy Research which is a right wing think Tank founded in 1978 by William J. Casey who…what is this? Who later became President Ronald Reagan’s CIA director:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhattan_Institute

I like how Stossel omits Gratzer’s connection to the Think Tank…

It looks like Phillip Morris has also given donations to them. Gotta love a doctor who will tell you to be healthy and then take a handout from the number one killer in America:

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Steven_F._Hayward

Wow and then his last interview is with a woman from the Galen Institute. Even Conservatives know that the Institute has a conservative bias:

http://www.philanthropy.iupui.edu/Millennium/usefulInformation/Conservative%20Philanthropy%20&%20Healthcare.pdf

No agenda with any of these? right

Take a sip of this nice Kool Aid Zeitgeist its been a hot one. Next!

Here is my favorite Stossel clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-k2uJ3AmVE

[sdgrrl]

I’m just happy you are using Stossel and not Michelle Malkin to back up your claims this time.

I find it ironic that Stossel’s first interview is with Sally Pipes from the Pacific Research Institute which is a Conservative Think Tank founded in 1979 in San Fran. Hmmm…thanks Zeit I guess they wouldn’t have their own agenda right.

Steven F. Hayward is their Senior Fellow of Environmental Studies and it seems among many connections he has is the National Review, The Weekly Standard(lovingly thought of as the neocon bible) and The Heritage Foundation, where he was a Bradly Fellow and which is a relatively new Conservative Think Tank and ran by “…Edwin Feulner, previously the staff director of the House Republican Study Committee and a former staff assistant to U.S. Congressman Phil Crane, R-Illinois:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Heritage_Foundation

They have also enjoyed many donations from Phillip Morris. How is that for an oxymoron. “Yes we are going to tell you Obamacare is bad, but smoking…not so bad”.

So then lets go on to David Gratzer. Looks like a respectable guy-I’m sure he is. Let’s see who he works for. Okay, he is the Senior Fellow for Manhattan Institute for Policy Research which is a right wing think Tank founded in 1978 by William J. Casey who…what is this? Who later became President Ronald Reagan’s CIA director:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhattan_Institute

I like how Stossel omits Gratzer’s connection to the Think Tank…

It looks like Phillip Morris has also given donations to them. Gotta love a doctor who will tell you to be healthy and then take a handout from the number one killer in America:

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Steven_F._Hayward

Wow and then his last interview is with a woman from the Galen Institute. Even Conservatives know that the Institute has a conservative bias:

http://www.philanthropy.iupui.edu/Millennium/usefulInformation/Conservative%20Philanthropy%20&%20Healthcare.pdf

No agenda with any of these? right

Take a sip of this nice Kool Aid Zeitgeist its been a hot one. Next!

Here is my favorite Stossel clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-k2uJ3AmVE

[surveyor]

ad hominem

From wikipedia: An ad hominem argument, also known as argumentum ad hominem (Latin: “argument to the person” or “argument against the person”) is an argument which links the validity of a premise to a characteristic or belief of a person advocating the premise.[citation needed]

sdgrrl: If a person says the sky is blue, it does not matter if that person is a conservative, republican, liberal, democrat, or an alien lifeform, it does not change the fact that the sky is blue.

Now please remember that when you argue because your post was not a challenge of the facts or even a challenge of how the opinions are wrong. You went ahead and attacked the persons making the argument. This is in debating terms called “TOTAL FAILURE”.

Yes, all people have agendas. So what. Argue the facts, argue the issues. Try to evolve some.

[surveyor]

ad hominem

From wikipedia: An ad hominem argument, also known as argumentum ad hominem (Latin: “argument to the person” or “argument against the person”) is an argument which links the validity of a premise to a characteristic or belief of a person advocating the premise.[citation needed]

sdgrrl: If a person says the sky is blue, it does not matter if that person is a conservative, republican, liberal, democrat, or an alien lifeform, it does not change the fact that the sky is blue.

Now please remember that when you argue because your post was not a challenge of the facts or even a challenge of how the opinions are wrong. You went ahead and attacked the persons making the argument. This is in debating terms called “TOTAL FAILURE”.

Yes, all people have agendas. So what. Argue the facts, argue the issues. Try to evolve some.

[surveyor]

ad hominem

From wikipedia: An ad hominem argument, also known as argumentum ad hominem (Latin: “argument to the person” or “argument against the person”) is an argument which links the validity of a premise to a characteristic or belief of a person advocating the premise.[citation needed]

sdgrrl: If a person says the sky is blue, it does not matter if that person is a conservative, republican, liberal, democrat, or an alien lifeform, it does not change the fact that the sky is blue.

Now please remember that when you argue because your post was not a challenge of the facts or even a challenge of how the opinions are wrong. You went ahead and attacked the persons making the argument. This is in debating terms called “TOTAL FAILURE”.

Yes, all people have agendas. So what. Argue the facts, argue the issues. Try to evolve some.

[surveyor]

ad hominem

From wikipedia: An ad hominem argument, also known as argumentum ad hominem (Latin: “argument to the person” or “argument against the person”) is an argument which links the validity of a premise to a characteristic or belief of a person advocating the premise.[citation needed]

sdgrrl: If a person says the sky is blue, it does not matter if that person is a conservative, republican, liberal, democrat, or an alien lifeform, it does not change the fact that the sky is blue.

Now please remember that when you argue because your post was not a challenge of the facts or even a challenge of how the opinions are wrong. You went ahead and attacked the persons making the argument. This is in debating terms called “TOTAL FAILURE”.

Yes, all people have agendas. So what. Argue the facts, argue the issues. Try to evolve some.

[surveyor]

ad hominem

From wikipedia: An ad hominem argument, also known as argumentum ad hominem (Latin: “argument to the person” or “argument against the person”) is an argument which links the validity of a premise to a characteristic or belief of a person advocating the premise.[citation needed]

sdgrrl: If a person says the sky is blue, it does not matter if that person is a conservative, republican, liberal, democrat, or an alien lifeform, it does not change the fact that the sky is blue.

Now please remember that when you argue because your post was not a challenge of the facts or even a challenge of how the opinions are wrong. You went ahead and attacked the persons making the argument. This is in debating terms called “TOTAL FAILURE”.

Yes, all people have agendas. So what. Argue the facts, argue the issues. Try to evolve some.

[sdgrrl]

Thanks surveyor. Not at all worth noting all those affiliations? Not one Left Leaning Think tank on the show? No bias?

You don’t think it would be worth noting that if someone was supporting socialized medicine on a news broadcast and it was found out all the information came from a liberal agenda it would not taint the perception of the discourse at all?

For every “fact” from these guys there are other “facts” from others.

[sdgrrl]

Thanks surveyor. Not at all worth noting all those affiliations? Not one Left Leaning Think tank on the show? No bias?

You don’t think it would be worth noting that if someone was supporting socialized medicine on a news broadcast and it was found out all the information came from a liberal agenda it would not taint the perception of the discourse at all?

For every “fact” from these guys there are other “facts” from others.

[sdgrrl]

Thanks surveyor. Not at all worth noting all those affiliations? Not one Left Leaning Think tank on the show? No bias?

You don’t think it would be worth noting that if someone was supporting socialized medicine on a news broadcast and it was found out all the information came from a liberal agenda it would not taint the perception of the discourse at all?

For every “fact” from these guys there are other “facts” from others.

[sdgrrl]

Thanks surveyor. Not at all worth noting all those affiliations? Not one Left Leaning Think tank on the show? No bias?

You don’t think it would be worth noting that if someone was supporting socialized medicine on a news broadcast and it was found out all the information came from a liberal agenda it would not taint the perception of the discourse at all?

For every “fact” from these guys there are other “facts” from others.

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