ObamaCare…coming soon

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=SK in CV][quote=afx114]
It’s no different than the “Code Pink” crowd. They do nothing but disrupt what should be a civilized debate about a very important issue, and in the end paint themselves as loonies to those who want to actually accomplish something.[/quote]

I have no affinity for Code Pink, but they’re hardly the same thing. Code Pink showed up with 4 or 5 women at a few dozen events over a 3 or 4 year period. And in most cases they were promptly escorted out.

What the opposition has contributed is fear. And it’s worked quite well. Death panels that don’t exist. Socialized medicine which isn’t part of the plan. Rationed care. Those lies have created fear. It’s hard to fight it when even the Republican who initiated the advance directive clause in the House plan is now running from it. Fear is effective.[/quote]

Afx/SK: No disagreement on the Republicans. While conservative, I haven’t supported the Republican Party since 1996. This is a rudderless ship at present, and they are blowing a golden opportunity to seize the initiative from the Dems and make a strong showing in 2010.

Instead, it’s just bloviation and nonsense. SK, you’re completely right about the fear based strategy being employed right now. It not only diminishes any chance of meaningful dialogue on this topic, but it further distances the elements of an already polarized and balkanized country.

As tone deaf as the Republicans have been, though, the Dems are matching them blow for blow. That Hoyer-Pelosi op/ed piece was amazing to me. Is Pelosi really that out of touch?

[Allan from Fallbrook]

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[Zeitgeist]

“On May 21, 2009, Representative Edward J. Markey (D-Mass.), cochairman of the Bi-Partisan Congressional Task Force on Alzheimer’s Disease and senior member of the Energy and Commerce Committee which has jurisdiction over health care policy, and Senator Ron Wyden (D-Ore.), a senior member of the Senate Finance Committee which has jurisdiction over health care policy, today reintroduced the Independence at Home Act, H.R. 2560. The bill will create a 3-year pilot program to bring primary care medical services to Medicare beneficiaries with multiple chronic conditions in their homes. It will offer incentives for providing patients with care options that offer greater independence and quality of life while reducing costs. Pilot programs will be set up in 26 states, and the legislation has attracted bipartisan support in both the House and Senate, including Representative Chris Smith (R-N.J.), and Senators Richard Burr (R-NC), Ben Cardin, (D- Md.) and Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI).” I think this is a more humane solution to some of the problems associated with elderly patients.

[Zeitgeist]

“On May 21, 2009, Representative Edward J. Markey (D-Mass.), cochairman of the Bi-Partisan Congressional Task Force on Alzheimer’s Disease and senior member of the Energy and Commerce Committee which has jurisdiction over health care policy, and Senator Ron Wyden (D-Ore.), a senior member of the Senate Finance Committee which has jurisdiction over health care policy, today reintroduced the Independence at Home Act, H.R. 2560. The bill will create a 3-year pilot program to bring primary care medical services to Medicare beneficiaries with multiple chronic conditions in their homes. It will offer incentives for providing patients with care options that offer greater independence and quality of life while reducing costs. Pilot programs will be set up in 26 states, and the legislation has attracted bipartisan support in both the House and Senate, including Representative Chris Smith (R-N.J.), and Senators Richard Burr (R-NC), Ben Cardin, (D- Md.) and Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI).” I think this is a more humane solution to some of the problems associated with elderly patients.

[Zeitgeist]

“On May 21, 2009, Representative Edward J. Markey (D-Mass.), cochairman of the Bi-Partisan Congressional Task Force on Alzheimer’s Disease and senior member of the Energy and Commerce Committee which has jurisdiction over health care policy, and Senator Ron Wyden (D-Ore.), a senior member of the Senate Finance Committee which has jurisdiction over health care policy, today reintroduced the Independence at Home Act, H.R. 2560. The bill will create a 3-year pilot program to bring primary care medical services to Medicare beneficiaries with multiple chronic conditions in their homes. It will offer incentives for providing patients with care options that offer greater independence and quality of life while reducing costs. Pilot programs will be set up in 26 states, and the legislation has attracted bipartisan support in both the House and Senate, including Representative Chris Smith (R-N.J.), and Senators Richard Burr (R-NC), Ben Cardin, (D- Md.) and Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI).” I think this is a more humane solution to some of the problems associated with elderly patients.

[Zeitgeist]

“On May 21, 2009, Representative Edward J. Markey (D-Mass.), cochairman of the Bi-Partisan Congressional Task Force on Alzheimer’s Disease and senior member of the Energy and Commerce Committee which has jurisdiction over health care policy, and Senator Ron Wyden (D-Ore.), a senior member of the Senate Finance Committee which has jurisdiction over health care policy, today reintroduced the Independence at Home Act, H.R. 2560. The bill will create a 3-year pilot program to bring primary care medical services to Medicare beneficiaries with multiple chronic conditions in their homes. It will offer incentives for providing patients with care options that offer greater independence and quality of life while reducing costs. Pilot programs will be set up in 26 states, and the legislation has attracted bipartisan support in both the House and Senate, including Representative Chris Smith (R-N.J.), and Senators Richard Burr (R-NC), Ben Cardin, (D- Md.) and Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI).” I think this is a more humane solution to some of the problems associated with elderly patients.

[Zeitgeist]

“On May 21, 2009, Representative Edward J. Markey (D-Mass.), cochairman of the Bi-Partisan Congressional Task Force on Alzheimer’s Disease and senior member of the Energy and Commerce Committee which has jurisdiction over health care policy, and Senator Ron Wyden (D-Ore.), a senior member of the Senate Finance Committee which has jurisdiction over health care policy, today reintroduced the Independence at Home Act, H.R. 2560. The bill will create a 3-year pilot program to bring primary care medical services to Medicare beneficiaries with multiple chronic conditions in their homes. It will offer incentives for providing patients with care options that offer greater independence and quality of life while reducing costs. Pilot programs will be set up in 26 states, and the legislation has attracted bipartisan support in both the House and Senate, including Representative Chris Smith (R-N.J.), and Senators Richard Burr (R-NC), Ben Cardin, (D- Md.) and Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI).” I think this is a more humane solution to some of the problems associated with elderly patients.

[SK in CV]

[quote=Zeitgeist]“On May 21, 2009, Representative Edward J. Markey (D-Mass.), cochairman of the Bi-Partisan Congressional Task Force on Alzheimer’s Disease and senior member of the Energy and Commerce Committee which has jurisdiction over health care policy, and Senator Ron Wyden (D-Ore.), a senior member of the Senate Finance Committee which has jurisdiction over health care policy, today reintroduced the Independence at Home Act, H.R. 2560. The bill will create a 3-year pilot program to bring primary care medical services to Medicare beneficiaries with multiple chronic conditions in their homes. It will offer incentives for providing patients with care options that offer greater independence and quality of life while reducing costs. Pilot programs will be set up in 26 states, and the legislation has attracted bipartisan support in both the House and Senate, including Representative Chris Smith (R-N.J.), and Senators Richard Burr (R-NC), Ben Cardin, (D- Md.) and Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI).” I think this is a more humane solution to some of the problems associated with elderly patients.[/quote]

More humane than what?

[SK in CV]

[quote=Zeitgeist]“On May 21, 2009, Representative Edward J. Markey (D-Mass.), cochairman of the Bi-Partisan Congressional Task Force on Alzheimer’s Disease and senior member of the Energy and Commerce Committee which has jurisdiction over health care policy, and Senator Ron Wyden (D-Ore.), a senior member of the Senate Finance Committee which has jurisdiction over health care policy, today reintroduced the Independence at Home Act, H.R. 2560. The bill will create a 3-year pilot program to bring primary care medical services to Medicare beneficiaries with multiple chronic conditions in their homes. It will offer incentives for providing patients with care options that offer greater independence and quality of life while reducing costs. Pilot programs will be set up in 26 states, and the legislation has attracted bipartisan support in both the House and Senate, including Representative Chris Smith (R-N.J.), and Senators Richard Burr (R-NC), Ben Cardin, (D- Md.) and Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI).” I think this is a more humane solution to some of the problems associated with elderly patients.[/quote]

More humane than what?

[SK in CV]

[quote=Zeitgeist]“On May 21, 2009, Representative Edward J. Markey (D-Mass.), cochairman of the Bi-Partisan Congressional Task Force on Alzheimer’s Disease and senior member of the Energy and Commerce Committee which has jurisdiction over health care policy, and Senator Ron Wyden (D-Ore.), a senior member of the Senate Finance Committee which has jurisdiction over health care policy, today reintroduced the Independence at Home Act, H.R. 2560. The bill will create a 3-year pilot program to bring primary care medical services to Medicare beneficiaries with multiple chronic conditions in their homes. It will offer incentives for providing patients with care options that offer greater independence and quality of life while reducing costs. Pilot programs will be set up in 26 states, and the legislation has attracted bipartisan support in both the House and Senate, including Representative Chris Smith (R-N.J.), and Senators Richard Burr (R-NC), Ben Cardin, (D- Md.) and Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI).” I think this is a more humane solution to some of the problems associated with elderly patients.[/quote]

More humane than what?

[SK in CV]

[quote=Zeitgeist]“On May 21, 2009, Representative Edward J. Markey (D-Mass.), cochairman of the Bi-Partisan Congressional Task Force on Alzheimer’s Disease and senior member of the Energy and Commerce Committee which has jurisdiction over health care policy, and Senator Ron Wyden (D-Ore.), a senior member of the Senate Finance Committee which has jurisdiction over health care policy, today reintroduced the Independence at Home Act, H.R. 2560. The bill will create a 3-year pilot program to bring primary care medical services to Medicare beneficiaries with multiple chronic conditions in their homes. It will offer incentives for providing patients with care options that offer greater independence and quality of life while reducing costs. Pilot programs will be set up in 26 states, and the legislation has attracted bipartisan support in both the House and Senate, including Representative Chris Smith (R-N.J.), and Senators Richard Burr (R-NC), Ben Cardin, (D- Md.) and Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI).” I think this is a more humane solution to some of the problems associated with elderly patients.[/quote]

More humane than what?

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