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July 27, 2009 at 9:35 AM #438118July 27, 2009 at 10:23 AM #437377
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Why is the comparison with socialized medicine even part of this discussion? It’s benefits and drawbacks notwithstanding, nobody has proposed socialized medicine.[/quote]
But yet, everybody seems to praise the socialized health care while bashing our own. Many used statistics that showed socialized health care is better than ours to say, we should head in that direction, since their health care is better.July 27, 2009 at 10:23 AM #437580Participant[quote=SK in CV]
Why is the comparison with socialized medicine even part of this discussion? It’s benefits and drawbacks notwithstanding, nobody has proposed socialized medicine.[/quote]
But yet, everybody seems to praise the socialized health care while bashing our own. Many used statistics that showed socialized health care is better than ours to say, we should head in that direction, since their health care is better.July 27, 2009 at 10:23 AM #437893Participant[quote=SK in CV]
Why is the comparison with socialized medicine even part of this discussion? It’s benefits and drawbacks notwithstanding, nobody has proposed socialized medicine.[/quote]
But yet, everybody seems to praise the socialized health care while bashing our own. Many used statistics that showed socialized health care is better than ours to say, we should head in that direction, since their health care is better.July 27, 2009 at 10:23 AM #437966Participant[quote=SK in CV]
Why is the comparison with socialized medicine even part of this discussion? It’s benefits and drawbacks notwithstanding, nobody has proposed socialized medicine.[/quote]
But yet, everybody seems to praise the socialized health care while bashing our own. Many used statistics that showed socialized health care is better than ours to say, we should head in that direction, since their health care is better.July 27, 2009 at 10:23 AM #438133Participant[quote=SK in CV]
Why is the comparison with socialized medicine even part of this discussion? It’s benefits and drawbacks notwithstanding, nobody has proposed socialized medicine.[/quote]
But yet, everybody seems to praise the socialized health care while bashing our own. Many used statistics that showed socialized health care is better than ours to say, we should head in that direction, since their health care is better.July 27, 2009 at 11:57 AM #437417meadandale
Participant[quote=SK in CV][quote=Zeitgeist]Rudy Giuliani’s presidential campaign released a radio ad last week in which the candidate praised American health care for curing him of prostate cancer and wondered what might have happened to him under the socialized medicine practiced in the United Kingdom , where survival rates for that condition are far lower.
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Why is the comparison with socialized medicine even part of this discussion? It’s benefits and drawbacks notwithstanding, nobody has proposed socialized medicine.[/quote]
The whole goal of the insurance reform of the type that is being proposed (public option) is to get us to a single payer system (socialized care). It’s right out there in the open for anyone willing to pay attention.
July 27, 2009 at 11:57 AM #437618Participant[quote=SK in CV][quote=Zeitgeist]Rudy Giuliani’s presidential campaign released a radio ad last week in which the candidate praised American health care for curing him of prostate cancer and wondered what might have happened to him under the socialized medicine practiced in the United Kingdom , where survival rates for that condition are far lower.
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Why is the comparison with socialized medicine even part of this discussion? It’s benefits and drawbacks notwithstanding, nobody has proposed socialized medicine.[/quote]
The whole goal of the insurance reform of the type that is being proposed (public option) is to get us to a single payer system (socialized care). It’s right out there in the open for anyone willing to pay attention.
July 27, 2009 at 11:57 AM #437933Participant[quote=SK in CV][quote=Zeitgeist]Rudy Giuliani’s presidential campaign released a radio ad last week in which the candidate praised American health care for curing him of prostate cancer and wondered what might have happened to him under the socialized medicine practiced in the United Kingdom , where survival rates for that condition are far lower.
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Why is the comparison with socialized medicine even part of this discussion? It’s benefits and drawbacks notwithstanding, nobody has proposed socialized medicine.[/quote]
The whole goal of the insurance reform of the type that is being proposed (public option) is to get us to a single payer system (socialized care). It’s right out there in the open for anyone willing to pay attention.
July 27, 2009 at 11:57 AM #438005Participant[quote=SK in CV][quote=Zeitgeist]Rudy Giuliani’s presidential campaign released a radio ad last week in which the candidate praised American health care for curing him of prostate cancer and wondered what might have happened to him under the socialized medicine practiced in the United Kingdom , where survival rates for that condition are far lower.
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Why is the comparison with socialized medicine even part of this discussion? It’s benefits and drawbacks notwithstanding, nobody has proposed socialized medicine.[/quote]
The whole goal of the insurance reform of the type that is being proposed (public option) is to get us to a single payer system (socialized care). It’s right out there in the open for anyone willing to pay attention.
July 27, 2009 at 11:57 AM #438173Participant[quote=SK in CV][quote=Zeitgeist]Rudy Giuliani’s presidential campaign released a radio ad last week in which the candidate praised American health care for curing him of prostate cancer and wondered what might have happened to him under the socialized medicine practiced in the United Kingdom , where survival rates for that condition are far lower.
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Why is the comparison with socialized medicine even part of this discussion? It’s benefits and drawbacks notwithstanding, nobody has proposed socialized medicine.[/quote]
The whole goal of the insurance reform of the type that is being proposed (public option) is to get us to a single payer system (socialized care). It’s right out there in the open for anyone willing to pay attention.
July 27, 2009 at 1:21 PM #437451Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantSK: What the leftists in DC want us to ignore in every one of their programs, is the “socialization” inherent to the various “solutions”, be it GM’s takeover, the health care “fix”, the stimulus package, etc.
If Bush were actively seeking the massive expansion of executive and legislative powers that Obama and the Dems are, the MSM would be screaming bloody murder. As it is, we sit here passively and are lied to and, sadly, we believe.
Obama’s answer to everything seems to be: More Government.
Came across this great quote, which really sums things up for me:
“You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is about the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.”
~~~~ Dr. Adrian Rogers, 1931July 27, 2009 at 1:21 PM #437653ParticipantSK: What the leftists in DC want us to ignore in every one of their programs, is the “socialization” inherent to the various “solutions”, be it GM’s takeover, the health care “fix”, the stimulus package, etc.
If Bush were actively seeking the massive expansion of executive and legislative powers that Obama and the Dems are, the MSM would be screaming bloody murder. As it is, we sit here passively and are lied to and, sadly, we believe.
Obama’s answer to everything seems to be: More Government.
Came across this great quote, which really sums things up for me:
“You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is about the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.”
~~~~ Dr. Adrian Rogers, 1931July 27, 2009 at 1:21 PM #437968ParticipantSK: What the leftists in DC want us to ignore in every one of their programs, is the “socialization” inherent to the various “solutions”, be it GM’s takeover, the health care “fix”, the stimulus package, etc.
If Bush were actively seeking the massive expansion of executive and legislative powers that Obama and the Dems are, the MSM would be screaming bloody murder. As it is, we sit here passively and are lied to and, sadly, we believe.
Obama’s answer to everything seems to be: More Government.
Came across this great quote, which really sums things up for me:
“You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is about the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.”
~~~~ Dr. Adrian Rogers, 1931July 27, 2009 at 1:21 PM #438040ParticipantSK: What the leftists in DC want us to ignore in every one of their programs, is the “socialization” inherent to the various “solutions”, be it GM’s takeover, the health care “fix”, the stimulus package, etc.
If Bush were actively seeking the massive expansion of executive and legislative powers that Obama and the Dems are, the MSM would be screaming bloody murder. As it is, we sit here passively and are lied to and, sadly, we believe.
Obama’s answer to everything seems to be: More Government.
Came across this great quote, which really sums things up for me:
“You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is about the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.”
~~~~ Dr. Adrian Rogers, 1931 -
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