ObamaCare…coming soon

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Seems like socialism is the best system then. In Sweden, maternity leave is 12 months and paternity leave is 6 months. That’s a lot than what we have here. Lets also have education system like the Finnish since we’re at it. They have the best public school system, so lets copy them there too. I guess I won’t have to worry about unemployment either since health care is free and their unemployment benefit are amazing. All of these benefit sounds great.

One thing I forgot to ask, how much are they taxed over there? Sales tax, income tax, taxes on goods, taxes on cars? Must not be much more than us, right? They also have the same immigration issue as us too, I’d assume. They must also have very similar demographic as us, right?

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[quote=ralphfurley]
Wanna bet? While I work at a hospital where they dont turn you away, others sure will. I know, because we get the patients that other hospitals “patch up” and ship off. Unless of course, we are at capacity, then we would keep the really emergent cases and send the others away.[/quote]

My wife is a nurse at a hospital and that’s what she tells me.

[quote=ralphfurley]
Between IOUs and any money the state actually coughs up for medical reimbursement, there sure isn’t much to go around. Hospitals are operating in the red. How much longer do you figure they can go on like that?[/quote]
Yes, I know that this is the case. Especially, in San Diego, hospital below the 8 are in the red while hospital above the 8 are not. I wonder why.

[an]

[quote=ralphfurley]
Wanna bet? While I work at a hospital where they dont turn you away, others sure will. I know, because we get the patients that other hospitals “patch up” and ship off. Unless of course, we are at capacity, then we would keep the really emergent cases and send the others away.[/quote]

My wife is a nurse at a hospital and that’s what she tells me.

[quote=ralphfurley]
Between IOUs and any money the state actually coughs up for medical reimbursement, there sure isn’t much to go around. Hospitals are operating in the red. How much longer do you figure they can go on like that?[/quote]
Yes, I know that this is the case. Especially, in San Diego, hospital below the 8 are in the red while hospital above the 8 are not. I wonder why.

[an]

[quote=ralphfurley]
Wanna bet? While I work at a hospital where they dont turn you away, others sure will. I know, because we get the patients that other hospitals “patch up” and ship off. Unless of course, we are at capacity, then we would keep the really emergent cases and send the others away.[/quote]

My wife is a nurse at a hospital and that’s what she tells me.

[quote=ralphfurley]
Between IOUs and any money the state actually coughs up for medical reimbursement, there sure isn’t much to go around. Hospitals are operating in the red. How much longer do you figure they can go on like that?[/quote]
Yes, I know that this is the case. Especially, in San Diego, hospital below the 8 are in the red while hospital above the 8 are not. I wonder why.

[an]

[quote=ralphfurley]
Wanna bet? While I work at a hospital where they dont turn you away, others sure will. I know, because we get the patients that other hospitals “patch up” and ship off. Unless of course, we are at capacity, then we would keep the really emergent cases and send the others away.[/quote]

My wife is a nurse at a hospital and that’s what she tells me.

[quote=ralphfurley]
Between IOUs and any money the state actually coughs up for medical reimbursement, there sure isn’t much to go around. Hospitals are operating in the red. How much longer do you figure they can go on like that?[/quote]
Yes, I know that this is the case. Especially, in San Diego, hospital below the 8 are in the red while hospital above the 8 are not. I wonder why.

[an]

[quote=ralphfurley]
Wanna bet? While I work at a hospital where they dont turn you away, others sure will. I know, because we get the patients that other hospitals “patch up” and ship off. Unless of course, we are at capacity, then we would keep the really emergent cases and send the others away.[/quote]

My wife is a nurse at a hospital and that’s what she tells me.

[quote=ralphfurley]
Between IOUs and any money the state actually coughs up for medical reimbursement, there sure isn’t much to go around. Hospitals are operating in the red. How much longer do you figure they can go on like that?[/quote]
Yes, I know that this is the case. Especially, in San Diego, hospital below the 8 are in the red while hospital above the 8 are not. I wonder why.

[patb]

[quote=AN]I rather get a large bill than die or get my legs chopped off.

4-6 hours wait if there is trauma patient. They take precedent. I went to urgent care in Torrey Pine a few months ago and no one was there. I was the only patient, so I went in immediately. Although, it was ~11PM.

If you don’t have insurance, Hospital can’t turn you away. They have to treat you. If you tell them, they’ll work with you. They have an uninsured fund.[/quote]
they also have bill collectors.

60% of all bankruptcies in america are related to medical bills.

They have to treat you only to the level of stability and only if you are in a hall-burton act hospital. Private hospitals don’t have to take you.

[patb]

[quote=AN]I rather get a large bill than die or get my legs chopped off.

4-6 hours wait if there is trauma patient. They take precedent. I went to urgent care in Torrey Pine a few months ago and no one was there. I was the only patient, so I went in immediately. Although, it was ~11PM.

If you don’t have insurance, Hospital can’t turn you away. They have to treat you. If you tell them, they’ll work with you. They have an uninsured fund.[/quote]
they also have bill collectors.

60% of all bankruptcies in america are related to medical bills.

They have to treat you only to the level of stability and only if you are in a hall-burton act hospital. Private hospitals don’t have to take you.

[patb]

[quote=AN]I rather get a large bill than die or get my legs chopped off.

4-6 hours wait if there is trauma patient. They take precedent. I went to urgent care in Torrey Pine a few months ago and no one was there. I was the only patient, so I went in immediately. Although, it was ~11PM.

If you don’t have insurance, Hospital can’t turn you away. They have to treat you. If you tell them, they’ll work with you. They have an uninsured fund.[/quote]
they also have bill collectors.

60% of all bankruptcies in america are related to medical bills.

They have to treat you only to the level of stability and only if you are in a hall-burton act hospital. Private hospitals don’t have to take you.

[patb]

[quote=AN]I rather get a large bill than die or get my legs chopped off.

4-6 hours wait if there is trauma patient. They take precedent. I went to urgent care in Torrey Pine a few months ago and no one was there. I was the only patient, so I went in immediately. Although, it was ~11PM.

If you don’t have insurance, Hospital can’t turn you away. They have to treat you. If you tell them, they’ll work with you. They have an uninsured fund.[/quote]
they also have bill collectors.

60% of all bankruptcies in america are related to medical bills.

They have to treat you only to the level of stability and only if you are in a hall-burton act hospital. Private hospitals don’t have to take you.

[patb]

[quote=AN]I rather get a large bill than die or get my legs chopped off.

4-6 hours wait if there is trauma patient. They take precedent. I went to urgent care in Torrey Pine a few months ago and no one was there. I was the only patient, so I went in immediately. Although, it was ~11PM.

If you don’t have insurance, Hospital can’t turn you away. They have to treat you. If you tell them, they’ll work with you. They have an uninsured fund.[/quote]
they also have bill collectors.

60% of all bankruptcies in america are related to medical bills.

They have to treat you only to the level of stability and only if you are in a hall-burton act hospital. Private hospitals don’t have to take you.

[GH]

[quote=AN]One thing I forgot to ask, how much are they taxed over there? Sales tax, income tax, taxes on goods, taxes on cars? Must not be much more than us, right? They also have the same immigration issue as us too, I’d assume. They must also have very similar demographic as us, right?[/quote]

Since the medical care they receive is at a cost of only 1/2 our cost here taxes may not be so much higher than you might think. My OT here is taxed at 56% incl State, Federal etc and I still have to pay $10K a year for health insurance with high co-pays.

[GH]

[quote=AN]One thing I forgot to ask, how much are they taxed over there? Sales tax, income tax, taxes on goods, taxes on cars? Must not be much more than us, right? They also have the same immigration issue as us too, I’d assume. They must also have very similar demographic as us, right?[/quote]

Since the medical care they receive is at a cost of only 1/2 our cost here taxes may not be so much higher than you might think. My OT here is taxed at 56% incl State, Federal etc and I still have to pay $10K a year for health insurance with high co-pays.

[GH]

[quote=AN]One thing I forgot to ask, how much are they taxed over there? Sales tax, income tax, taxes on goods, taxes on cars? Must not be much more than us, right? They also have the same immigration issue as us too, I’d assume. They must also have very similar demographic as us, right?[/quote]

Since the medical care they receive is at a cost of only 1/2 our cost here taxes may not be so much higher than you might think. My OT here is taxed at 56% incl State, Federal etc and I still have to pay $10K a year for health insurance with high co-pays.

[GH]

[quote=AN]One thing I forgot to ask, how much are they taxed over there? Sales tax, income tax, taxes on goods, taxes on cars? Must not be much more than us, right? They also have the same immigration issue as us too, I’d assume. They must also have very similar demographic as us, right?[/quote]

Since the medical care they receive is at a cost of only 1/2 our cost here taxes may not be so much higher than you might think. My OT here is taxed at 56% incl State, Federal etc and I still have to pay $10K a year for health insurance with high co-pays.

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