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June 28, 2008 at 8:48 PM #230656June 28, 2008 at 9:05 PM #230487anParticipant
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The top 1% also have 33% of the total wealth in this country, and the top 10% around 75% of the total wealth. It looks a lot less unfair once you realize that.The bottom 50% have something like 5% of the total wealth in the country. It’s hard to save when you’re living paycheck to paycheck.
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It’s not that hard to save if you really want to. But that’s not the American way. If immigrants can move themselves to the middle class and beyond in less than 20 years, even when they came to this country with nothing more than the clothes on their back. There should be no real excuse for those who are born here to do the same. The only valid excuse in my eyes is physical/mental disability.June 28, 2008 at 9:05 PM #230609anParticipant[quote=SDEngineer]
The top 1% also have 33% of the total wealth in this country, and the top 10% around 75% of the total wealth. It looks a lot less unfair once you realize that.The bottom 50% have something like 5% of the total wealth in the country. It’s hard to save when you’re living paycheck to paycheck.
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It’s not that hard to save if you really want to. But that’s not the American way. If immigrants can move themselves to the middle class and beyond in less than 20 years, even when they came to this country with nothing more than the clothes on their back. There should be no real excuse for those who are born here to do the same. The only valid excuse in my eyes is physical/mental disability.June 28, 2008 at 9:05 PM #230620anParticipant[quote=SDEngineer]
The top 1% also have 33% of the total wealth in this country, and the top 10% around 75% of the total wealth. It looks a lot less unfair once you realize that.The bottom 50% have something like 5% of the total wealth in the country. It’s hard to save when you’re living paycheck to paycheck.
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It’s not that hard to save if you really want to. But that’s not the American way. If immigrants can move themselves to the middle class and beyond in less than 20 years, even when they came to this country with nothing more than the clothes on their back. There should be no real excuse for those who are born here to do the same. The only valid excuse in my eyes is physical/mental disability.June 28, 2008 at 9:05 PM #230657anParticipant[quote=SDEngineer]
The top 1% also have 33% of the total wealth in this country, and the top 10% around 75% of the total wealth. It looks a lot less unfair once you realize that.The bottom 50% have something like 5% of the total wealth in the country. It’s hard to save when you’re living paycheck to paycheck.
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It’s not that hard to save if you really want to. But that’s not the American way. If immigrants can move themselves to the middle class and beyond in less than 20 years, even when they came to this country with nothing more than the clothes on their back. There should be no real excuse for those who are born here to do the same. The only valid excuse in my eyes is physical/mental disability.June 28, 2008 at 9:05 PM #230671anParticipant[quote=SDEngineer]
The top 1% also have 33% of the total wealth in this country, and the top 10% around 75% of the total wealth. It looks a lot less unfair once you realize that.The bottom 50% have something like 5% of the total wealth in the country. It’s hard to save when you’re living paycheck to paycheck.
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It’s not that hard to save if you really want to. But that’s not the American way. If immigrants can move themselves to the middle class and beyond in less than 20 years, even when they came to this country with nothing more than the clothes on their back. There should be no real excuse for those who are born here to do the same. The only valid excuse in my eyes is physical/mental disability.June 28, 2008 at 9:38 PM #230517ArtyParticipantIt is an OUTRAGE to consider someone earning $125k/yr as “wealthy” when that income can’t even afford a decent single family home over here in Orange County. People earning $125k/yr already pay 48% in marginal taxes, you want to increase it.. Have you lost your mind?? Have you gone INSANE??
If you are making 125k and can’t buy a house, you should cut back on your spending. No one tells you to live in OC! Move that’s the capitalist way :)! Also, People who earn 125k/yr do not pay 48% in marginal taxes unless your accountant sucked!
June 28, 2008 at 9:38 PM #230642ArtyParticipantIt is an OUTRAGE to consider someone earning $125k/yr as “wealthy” when that income can’t even afford a decent single family home over here in Orange County. People earning $125k/yr already pay 48% in marginal taxes, you want to increase it.. Have you lost your mind?? Have you gone INSANE??
If you are making 125k and can’t buy a house, you should cut back on your spending. No one tells you to live in OC! Move that’s the capitalist way :)! Also, People who earn 125k/yr do not pay 48% in marginal taxes unless your accountant sucked!
June 28, 2008 at 9:38 PM #230650ArtyParticipantIt is an OUTRAGE to consider someone earning $125k/yr as “wealthy” when that income can’t even afford a decent single family home over here in Orange County. People earning $125k/yr already pay 48% in marginal taxes, you want to increase it.. Have you lost your mind?? Have you gone INSANE??
If you are making 125k and can’t buy a house, you should cut back on your spending. No one tells you to live in OC! Move that’s the capitalist way :)! Also, People who earn 125k/yr do not pay 48% in marginal taxes unless your accountant sucked!
June 28, 2008 at 9:38 PM #230686ArtyParticipantIt is an OUTRAGE to consider someone earning $125k/yr as “wealthy” when that income can’t even afford a decent single family home over here in Orange County. People earning $125k/yr already pay 48% in marginal taxes, you want to increase it.. Have you lost your mind?? Have you gone INSANE??
If you are making 125k and can’t buy a house, you should cut back on your spending. No one tells you to live in OC! Move that’s the capitalist way :)! Also, People who earn 125k/yr do not pay 48% in marginal taxes unless your accountant sucked!
June 28, 2008 at 9:38 PM #230701ArtyParticipantIt is an OUTRAGE to consider someone earning $125k/yr as “wealthy” when that income can’t even afford a decent single family home over here in Orange County. People earning $125k/yr already pay 48% in marginal taxes, you want to increase it.. Have you lost your mind?? Have you gone INSANE??
If you are making 125k and can’t buy a house, you should cut back on your spending. No one tells you to live in OC! Move that’s the capitalist way :)! Also, People who earn 125k/yr do not pay 48% in marginal taxes unless your accountant sucked!
June 28, 2008 at 9:40 PM #230512kev374ParticipantUsing the calculators at paycheckcity.com, $250k for a couple would translate into a net income of $164,800. $125,000 as a single translates into $79,700 net.
The married couples makes $85,000 net MORE than the single guy. The fixed costs like living and food are about the same or neglibily more. If the married couple has car loans then that may be an additional expense, and perhaps gas.
So, the couple’s fixed costs may increase 5 – 10% over a single but their available discretionary income skyrockets making them infact MUCH more wealthy.
June 28, 2008 at 9:40 PM #230637kev374ParticipantUsing the calculators at paycheckcity.com, $250k for a couple would translate into a net income of $164,800. $125,000 as a single translates into $79,700 net.
The married couples makes $85,000 net MORE than the single guy. The fixed costs like living and food are about the same or neglibily more. If the married couple has car loans then that may be an additional expense, and perhaps gas.
So, the couple’s fixed costs may increase 5 – 10% over a single but their available discretionary income skyrockets making them infact MUCH more wealthy.
June 28, 2008 at 9:40 PM #230645kev374ParticipantUsing the calculators at paycheckcity.com, $250k for a couple would translate into a net income of $164,800. $125,000 as a single translates into $79,700 net.
The married couples makes $85,000 net MORE than the single guy. The fixed costs like living and food are about the same or neglibily more. If the married couple has car loans then that may be an additional expense, and perhaps gas.
So, the couple’s fixed costs may increase 5 – 10% over a single but their available discretionary income skyrockets making them infact MUCH more wealthy.
June 28, 2008 at 9:40 PM #230680kev374ParticipantUsing the calculators at paycheckcity.com, $250k for a couple would translate into a net income of $164,800. $125,000 as a single translates into $79,700 net.
The married couples makes $85,000 net MORE than the single guy. The fixed costs like living and food are about the same or neglibily more. If the married couple has car loans then that may be an additional expense, and perhaps gas.
So, the couple’s fixed costs may increase 5 – 10% over a single but their available discretionary income skyrockets making them infact MUCH more wealthy.
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