Obama is the great hype machine

[Allan from Fallbrook]

drunkle: True, on the Al/Jesse question, but not for the reason you are implying. Rather, the Dems (like the Repubs) are in the business of winning elections. Like it or not, neither was perceived as a potential winner, much the same way that Alan Keyes is not perceived as a winner by the Republicans. Nothing to do with either love, or Christian Love, but the calculus of taking the White House.

No, on the question of exalting blacks versus nigger lover. It does not, and should not. Rather it means embracing a cause, ideology or issue without being willing to subject it to question or scrutiny.

Racism absolutely exists, and it always has. It always will. Sad, but a fact of human nature. We’re tribal by nature, and regardless of color, always will be.

[NotCranky]

Allan, My response was too flippant for you to understand much of what I would attempt to convey if I had the time and inclination. My wife needs the computer because we wont buy another one for fear of abandoning the children.

Quickly, I will give you that you have not demonized me or picked on me directly. I have had some disappointment with regards to your views and expression. Probably made for the right time to take permanent leave of the discussion. I am a complete failure at timing that correctly or at least at keeping my mouth shut after the time has come.
Best wishes

[NotCranky]

Allan, My response was too flippant for you to understand much of what I would attempt to convey if I had the time and inclination. My wife needs the computer because we wont buy another one for fear of abandoning the children.

Quickly, I will give you that you have not demonized me or picked on me directly. I have had some disappointment with regards to your views and expression. Probably made for the right time to take permanent leave of the discussion. I am a complete failure at timing that correctly or at least at keeping my mouth shut after the time has come.
Best wishes

[NotCranky]

Allan, My response was too flippant for you to understand much of what I would attempt to convey if I had the time and inclination. My wife needs the computer because we wont buy another one for fear of abandoning the children.

Quickly, I will give you that you have not demonized me or picked on me directly. I have had some disappointment with regards to your views and expression. Probably made for the right time to take permanent leave of the discussion. I am a complete failure at timing that correctly or at least at keeping my mouth shut after the time has come.
Best wishes

[NotCranky]

Allan, My response was too flippant for you to understand much of what I would attempt to convey if I had the time and inclination. My wife needs the computer because we wont buy another one for fear of abandoning the children.

Quickly, I will give you that you have not demonized me or picked on me directly. I have had some disappointment with regards to your views and expression. Probably made for the right time to take permanent leave of the discussion. I am a complete failure at timing that correctly or at least at keeping my mouth shut after the time has come.
Best wishes

[NotCranky]

Allan, My response was too flippant for you to understand much of what I would attempt to convey if I had the time and inclination. My wife needs the computer because we wont buy another one for fear of abandoning the children.

Quickly, I will give you that you have not demonized me or picked on me directly. I have had some disappointment with regards to your views and expression. Probably made for the right time to take permanent leave of the discussion. I am a complete failure at timing that correctly or at least at keeping my mouth shut after the time has come.
Best wishes

[drunkle]

allan:

so, there are issues to elections other than whether or not “liberals love melanin”? fancy that!

“exalting blacks” vs niger lover… that may be your definition, your interpretation of gold’s statement, but it is definitely not mine. especially considering the fact that no other issue on obama was raised!

ok, you acknowledge racism exists. but do you shrug it off and say it’s not your problem? or excuse it by saying it’s human nature? hey, it’s human nature to rape and pillage, is that ok too?

finally, getting back to this:
“When confronted with a strong line of attack, Drunkle fell back on a common theme: Accuse the accuser of a more serious, but completely unrelated, flaw. In this case, racism.”

do you still think that i made a cop out comment when his post was completely empty of anything other than race?

[drunkle]

allan:

so, there are issues to elections other than whether or not “liberals love melanin”? fancy that!

“exalting blacks” vs niger lover… that may be your definition, your interpretation of gold’s statement, but it is definitely not mine. especially considering the fact that no other issue on obama was raised!

ok, you acknowledge racism exists. but do you shrug it off and say it’s not your problem? or excuse it by saying it’s human nature? hey, it’s human nature to rape and pillage, is that ok too?

finally, getting back to this:
“When confronted with a strong line of attack, Drunkle fell back on a common theme: Accuse the accuser of a more serious, but completely unrelated, flaw. In this case, racism.”

do you still think that i made a cop out comment when his post was completely empty of anything other than race?

[drunkle]

allan:

so, there are issues to elections other than whether or not “liberals love melanin”? fancy that!

“exalting blacks” vs niger lover… that may be your definition, your interpretation of gold’s statement, but it is definitely not mine. especially considering the fact that no other issue on obama was raised!

ok, you acknowledge racism exists. but do you shrug it off and say it’s not your problem? or excuse it by saying it’s human nature? hey, it’s human nature to rape and pillage, is that ok too?

finally, getting back to this:
“When confronted with a strong line of attack, Drunkle fell back on a common theme: Accuse the accuser of a more serious, but completely unrelated, flaw. In this case, racism.”

do you still think that i made a cop out comment when his post was completely empty of anything other than race?

[drunkle]

allan:

so, there are issues to elections other than whether or not “liberals love melanin”? fancy that!

“exalting blacks” vs niger lover… that may be your definition, your interpretation of gold’s statement, but it is definitely not mine. especially considering the fact that no other issue on obama was raised!

ok, you acknowledge racism exists. but do you shrug it off and say it’s not your problem? or excuse it by saying it’s human nature? hey, it’s human nature to rape and pillage, is that ok too?

finally, getting back to this:
“When confronted with a strong line of attack, Drunkle fell back on a common theme: Accuse the accuser of a more serious, but completely unrelated, flaw. In this case, racism.”

do you still think that i made a cop out comment when his post was completely empty of anything other than race?

[drunkle]

allan:

so, there are issues to elections other than whether or not “liberals love melanin”? fancy that!

“exalting blacks” vs niger lover… that may be your definition, your interpretation of gold’s statement, but it is definitely not mine. especially considering the fact that no other issue on obama was raised!

ok, you acknowledge racism exists. but do you shrug it off and say it’s not your problem? or excuse it by saying it’s human nature? hey, it’s human nature to rape and pillage, is that ok too?

finally, getting back to this:
“When confronted with a strong line of attack, Drunkle fell back on a common theme: Accuse the accuser of a more serious, but completely unrelated, flaw. In this case, racism.”

do you still think that i made a cop out comment when his post was completely empty of anything other than race?

[Anonymous]

Submitted by Rustico on January 7, 2008 – 7:52pm.

Drunkle, you are awesome.

Of course that is what he is saying. It is going to be a pity but if race comes into the equation,and it will. there will be more people not electing him or even sabotaging him because of African roots, than voting for him because of it.

Melanin-phobics like gold dredger can’t entertain the idea for a minute that Obama is a viable candidate or at least attempt to respect that many people think so or think he is the “best of the worst”. It is really sad that this racist theme is going to play out over and over again.

Rustico, well said. Very well said.

Submitted by Allan from Fallbrook on January 7, 2008 – 9:30pm.

Racism absolutely exists, and it always has. It always will. Sad, but a fact of human nature. We’re tribal by nature, and regardless of color, always will be.

I’m trying to observe and stay out of the way, but a quick comment. Allan, I don’t believe racism stems from human nature. Human beings aren’t born racist, but rather “taught” it. Racism isn’t tribal, it’s about certain people believing they are better than others and those people are the lowest life forms on the planet.

[Anonymous]

Submitted by Rustico on January 7, 2008 – 7:52pm.

Drunkle, you are awesome.

Of course that is what he is saying. It is going to be a pity but if race comes into the equation,and it will. there will be more people not electing him or even sabotaging him because of African roots, than voting for him because of it.

Melanin-phobics like gold dredger can’t entertain the idea for a minute that Obama is a viable candidate or at least attempt to respect that many people think so or think he is the “best of the worst”. It is really sad that this racist theme is going to play out over and over again.

Rustico, well said. Very well said.

Submitted by Allan from Fallbrook on January 7, 2008 – 9:30pm.

Racism absolutely exists, and it always has. It always will. Sad, but a fact of human nature. We’re tribal by nature, and regardless of color, always will be.

I’m trying to observe and stay out of the way, but a quick comment. Allan, I don’t believe racism stems from human nature. Human beings aren’t born racist, but rather “taught” it. Racism isn’t tribal, it’s about certain people believing they are better than others and those people are the lowest life forms on the planet.

[Anonymous]

Submitted by Rustico on January 7, 2008 – 7:52pm.

Drunkle, you are awesome.

Of course that is what he is saying. It is going to be a pity but if race comes into the equation,and it will. there will be more people not electing him or even sabotaging him because of African roots, than voting for him because of it.

Melanin-phobics like gold dredger can’t entertain the idea for a minute that Obama is a viable candidate or at least attempt to respect that many people think so or think he is the “best of the worst”. It is really sad that this racist theme is going to play out over and over again.

Rustico, well said. Very well said.

Submitted by Allan from Fallbrook on January 7, 2008 – 9:30pm.

Racism absolutely exists, and it always has. It always will. Sad, but a fact of human nature. We’re tribal by nature, and regardless of color, always will be.

I’m trying to observe and stay out of the way, but a quick comment. Allan, I don’t believe racism stems from human nature. Human beings aren’t born racist, but rather “taught” it. Racism isn’t tribal, it’s about certain people believing they are better than others and those people are the lowest life forms on the planet.

[Anonymous]

Submitted by Rustico on January 7, 2008 – 7:52pm.

Drunkle, you are awesome.

Of course that is what he is saying. It is going to be a pity but if race comes into the equation,and it will. there will be more people not electing him or even sabotaging him because of African roots, than voting for him because of it.

Melanin-phobics like gold dredger can’t entertain the idea for a minute that Obama is a viable candidate or at least attempt to respect that many people think so or think he is the “best of the worst”. It is really sad that this racist theme is going to play out over and over again.

Rustico, well said. Very well said.

Submitted by Allan from Fallbrook on January 7, 2008 – 9:30pm.

Racism absolutely exists, and it always has. It always will. Sad, but a fact of human nature. We’re tribal by nature, and regardless of color, always will be.

I’m trying to observe and stay out of the way, but a quick comment. Allan, I don’t believe racism stems from human nature. Human beings aren’t born racist, but rather “taught” it. Racism isn’t tribal, it’s about certain people believing they are better than others and those people are the lowest life forms on the planet.

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