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October 9, 2009 at 1:54 PM #467148October 9, 2009 at 1:55 PM #466343briansd1Guest
[quote=Russell]If all you say happened as a mere result of Obama being elected, I would credit the electorate not Obama. I know most americans really want peace.[/quote]
That I would agree.
I think that the Committee would have otherwise awarded the prize to the American people for all the good work that we (individually and through our government) have done around the world — people who get very little recognition.
Awarding the prize to Obama is also rebuke to the intransigent and war-mongering conservatives in America. The world evolves. We must embrace change.
Previous awards to Carter and Gore were also rebukes to Bush and his misguided policies.
October 9, 2009 at 1:55 PM #466530briansd1Guest[quote=Russell]If all you say happened as a mere result of Obama being elected, I would credit the electorate not Obama. I know most americans really want peace.[/quote]
That I would agree.
I think that the Committee would have otherwise awarded the prize to the American people for all the good work that we (individually and through our government) have done around the world — people who get very little recognition.
Awarding the prize to Obama is also rebuke to the intransigent and war-mongering conservatives in America. The world evolves. We must embrace change.
Previous awards to Carter and Gore were also rebukes to Bush and his misguided policies.
October 9, 2009 at 1:55 PM #466878briansd1Guest[quote=Russell]If all you say happened as a mere result of Obama being elected, I would credit the electorate not Obama. I know most americans really want peace.[/quote]
That I would agree.
I think that the Committee would have otherwise awarded the prize to the American people for all the good work that we (individually and through our government) have done around the world — people who get very little recognition.
Awarding the prize to Obama is also rebuke to the intransigent and war-mongering conservatives in America. The world evolves. We must embrace change.
Previous awards to Carter and Gore were also rebukes to Bush and his misguided policies.
October 9, 2009 at 1:55 PM #466949briansd1Guest[quote=Russell]If all you say happened as a mere result of Obama being elected, I would credit the electorate not Obama. I know most americans really want peace.[/quote]
That I would agree.
I think that the Committee would have otherwise awarded the prize to the American people for all the good work that we (individually and through our government) have done around the world — people who get very little recognition.
Awarding the prize to Obama is also rebuke to the intransigent and war-mongering conservatives in America. The world evolves. We must embrace change.
Previous awards to Carter and Gore were also rebukes to Bush and his misguided policies.
October 9, 2009 at 1:55 PM #467152briansd1Guest[quote=Russell]If all you say happened as a mere result of Obama being elected, I would credit the electorate not Obama. I know most americans really want peace.[/quote]
That I would agree.
I think that the Committee would have otherwise awarded the prize to the American people for all the good work that we (individually and through our government) have done around the world — people who get very little recognition.
Awarding the prize to Obama is also rebuke to the intransigent and war-mongering conservatives in America. The world evolves. We must embrace change.
Previous awards to Carter and Gore were also rebukes to Bush and his misguided policies.
October 9, 2009 at 1:56 PM #466348DWCAPParticipantI have to say I got saddened and jaded when I read that Obama won for doing nothing other than being elected prez of the USA. It’s pathetic, and I think cheapens the prize as a whole. Atleast the previous presidents who won it got it for negotiating the end of wars, you know, actually DOING something.
Having said that, I actually feel kinda bad for Obama about it. Reading his quotes, I dont think he really wanted it and knows that the reason he won it is just wrong. But he can’t say no, so he is just stuck. I really think he wants to be a prez for all Americans, and not a black president, but he can’t get away from the racists who support him. I didnt vote for him, and dont support the majority of his policies (same as I didnt support the same policies under Bush), but I do think he is smart enough to know this is wrong and not be happy about it.
And the reasons they gave for giving it to him, his “extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples” is total crap. I guess that is where Arraya’s title line came from. ‘extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples- by not being Bush.’
October 9, 2009 at 1:56 PM #466535DWCAPParticipantI have to say I got saddened and jaded when I read that Obama won for doing nothing other than being elected prez of the USA. It’s pathetic, and I think cheapens the prize as a whole. Atleast the previous presidents who won it got it for negotiating the end of wars, you know, actually DOING something.
Having said that, I actually feel kinda bad for Obama about it. Reading his quotes, I dont think he really wanted it and knows that the reason he won it is just wrong. But he can’t say no, so he is just stuck. I really think he wants to be a prez for all Americans, and not a black president, but he can’t get away from the racists who support him. I didnt vote for him, and dont support the majority of his policies (same as I didnt support the same policies under Bush), but I do think he is smart enough to know this is wrong and not be happy about it.
And the reasons they gave for giving it to him, his “extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples” is total crap. I guess that is where Arraya’s title line came from. ‘extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples- by not being Bush.’
October 9, 2009 at 1:56 PM #466883DWCAPParticipantI have to say I got saddened and jaded when I read that Obama won for doing nothing other than being elected prez of the USA. It’s pathetic, and I think cheapens the prize as a whole. Atleast the previous presidents who won it got it for negotiating the end of wars, you know, actually DOING something.
Having said that, I actually feel kinda bad for Obama about it. Reading his quotes, I dont think he really wanted it and knows that the reason he won it is just wrong. But he can’t say no, so he is just stuck. I really think he wants to be a prez for all Americans, and not a black president, but he can’t get away from the racists who support him. I didnt vote for him, and dont support the majority of his policies (same as I didnt support the same policies under Bush), but I do think he is smart enough to know this is wrong and not be happy about it.
And the reasons they gave for giving it to him, his “extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples” is total crap. I guess that is where Arraya’s title line came from. ‘extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples- by not being Bush.’
October 9, 2009 at 1:56 PM #466954DWCAPParticipantI have to say I got saddened and jaded when I read that Obama won for doing nothing other than being elected prez of the USA. It’s pathetic, and I think cheapens the prize as a whole. Atleast the previous presidents who won it got it for negotiating the end of wars, you know, actually DOING something.
Having said that, I actually feel kinda bad for Obama about it. Reading his quotes, I dont think he really wanted it and knows that the reason he won it is just wrong. But he can’t say no, so he is just stuck. I really think he wants to be a prez for all Americans, and not a black president, but he can’t get away from the racists who support him. I didnt vote for him, and dont support the majority of his policies (same as I didnt support the same policies under Bush), but I do think he is smart enough to know this is wrong and not be happy about it.
And the reasons they gave for giving it to him, his “extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples” is total crap. I guess that is where Arraya’s title line came from. ‘extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples- by not being Bush.’
October 9, 2009 at 1:56 PM #467156DWCAPParticipantI have to say I got saddened and jaded when I read that Obama won for doing nothing other than being elected prez of the USA. It’s pathetic, and I think cheapens the prize as a whole. Atleast the previous presidents who won it got it for negotiating the end of wars, you know, actually DOING something.
Having said that, I actually feel kinda bad for Obama about it. Reading his quotes, I dont think he really wanted it and knows that the reason he won it is just wrong. But he can’t say no, so he is just stuck. I really think he wants to be a prez for all Americans, and not a black president, but he can’t get away from the racists who support him. I didnt vote for him, and dont support the majority of his policies (same as I didnt support the same policies under Bush), but I do think he is smart enough to know this is wrong and not be happy about it.
And the reasons they gave for giving it to him, his “extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples” is total crap. I guess that is where Arraya’s title line came from. ‘extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples- by not being Bush.’
October 9, 2009 at 2:02 PM #466353scaredyclassicParticipantkind of. you have to be kind of a conspiracy-freak to say that getting the Nobel peace Prize is Bad.
I don’t know. maybe it’s meaningless, maybe it’s done with ulterior motives?
but BAD?
i don’t know. doesn’t seem like a horrible world development.
October 9, 2009 at 2:02 PM #466540scaredyclassicParticipantkind of. you have to be kind of a conspiracy-freak to say that getting the Nobel peace Prize is Bad.
I don’t know. maybe it’s meaningless, maybe it’s done with ulterior motives?
but BAD?
i don’t know. doesn’t seem like a horrible world development.
October 9, 2009 at 2:02 PM #466888scaredyclassicParticipantkind of. you have to be kind of a conspiracy-freak to say that getting the Nobel peace Prize is Bad.
I don’t know. maybe it’s meaningless, maybe it’s done with ulterior motives?
but BAD?
i don’t know. doesn’t seem like a horrible world development.
October 9, 2009 at 2:02 PM #466959scaredyclassicParticipantkind of. you have to be kind of a conspiracy-freak to say that getting the Nobel peace Prize is Bad.
I don’t know. maybe it’s meaningless, maybe it’s done with ulterior motives?
but BAD?
i don’t know. doesn’t seem like a horrible world development.
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