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February 13, 2009 at 8:46 PM #346723February 13, 2009 at 9:48 PM #346185
SD Realtor
ParticipantWell I guess if it takes 350 million to “educate” people about stds than we are screwed. Let me ask every single person who ever reads this.
Did you have to go to see some “counselor” to learn about stds?
Did you have to go to a federally funded class to learn about stds?
February 13, 2009 at 9:48 PM #346505SD Realtor
ParticipantWell I guess if it takes 350 million to “educate” people about stds than we are screwed. Let me ask every single person who ever reads this.
Did you have to go to see some “counselor” to learn about stds?
Did you have to go to a federally funded class to learn about stds?
February 13, 2009 at 9:48 PM #346615SD Realtor
ParticipantWell I guess if it takes 350 million to “educate” people about stds than we are screwed. Let me ask every single person who ever reads this.
Did you have to go to see some “counselor” to learn about stds?
Did you have to go to a federally funded class to learn about stds?
February 13, 2009 at 9:48 PM #346649SD Realtor
ParticipantWell I guess if it takes 350 million to “educate” people about stds than we are screwed. Let me ask every single person who ever reads this.
Did you have to go to see some “counselor” to learn about stds?
Did you have to go to a federally funded class to learn about stds?
February 13, 2009 at 9:48 PM #346748SD Realtor
ParticipantWell I guess if it takes 350 million to “educate” people about stds than we are screwed. Let me ask every single person who ever reads this.
Did you have to go to see some “counselor” to learn about stds?
Did you have to go to a federally funded class to learn about stds?
February 14, 2009 at 10:28 AM #346379picpoule
ParticipantSome here think we’re borrowing the Trillion or so that the stimulus bill mandates. Wrong. China is already balking at funding us for this. What to do now? Why, we’ll just print the dollars for ourselves. This, of course will bring economic disaster to our future. Remember Argentina? In the 1930’s Argentina was the 5th wealthiest nation in the world. Then came Juan Peron, the charismatic politician who sought a “Third Way” between capitalism and socialism and who promised “social justice” and “social aid.” He fulfilled those promises in spades. In doing so, indebted his country by gigantically increasing the money debt for his socialist projects. The echoes of that debt and reckless spending led to economic crisis 40 years later. Now, instead of being one of the most prosperous countries in the world, today 1 in 5 Argentinians live in dire poverty. And the import of this is that, by printing money to fund the new administration’s wasteful programs, Argentina foreshadows what’s in store for our future. Don’t cry for our children, America.
February 14, 2009 at 10:28 AM #346700picpoule
ParticipantSome here think we’re borrowing the Trillion or so that the stimulus bill mandates. Wrong. China is already balking at funding us for this. What to do now? Why, we’ll just print the dollars for ourselves. This, of course will bring economic disaster to our future. Remember Argentina? In the 1930’s Argentina was the 5th wealthiest nation in the world. Then came Juan Peron, the charismatic politician who sought a “Third Way” between capitalism and socialism and who promised “social justice” and “social aid.” He fulfilled those promises in spades. In doing so, indebted his country by gigantically increasing the money debt for his socialist projects. The echoes of that debt and reckless spending led to economic crisis 40 years later. Now, instead of being one of the most prosperous countries in the world, today 1 in 5 Argentinians live in dire poverty. And the import of this is that, by printing money to fund the new administration’s wasteful programs, Argentina foreshadows what’s in store for our future. Don’t cry for our children, America.
February 14, 2009 at 10:28 AM #346811picpoule
ParticipantSome here think we’re borrowing the Trillion or so that the stimulus bill mandates. Wrong. China is already balking at funding us for this. What to do now? Why, we’ll just print the dollars for ourselves. This, of course will bring economic disaster to our future. Remember Argentina? In the 1930’s Argentina was the 5th wealthiest nation in the world. Then came Juan Peron, the charismatic politician who sought a “Third Way” between capitalism and socialism and who promised “social justice” and “social aid.” He fulfilled those promises in spades. In doing so, indebted his country by gigantically increasing the money debt for his socialist projects. The echoes of that debt and reckless spending led to economic crisis 40 years later. Now, instead of being one of the most prosperous countries in the world, today 1 in 5 Argentinians live in dire poverty. And the import of this is that, by printing money to fund the new administration’s wasteful programs, Argentina foreshadows what’s in store for our future. Don’t cry for our children, America.
February 14, 2009 at 10:28 AM #346844picpoule
ParticipantSome here think we’re borrowing the Trillion or so that the stimulus bill mandates. Wrong. China is already balking at funding us for this. What to do now? Why, we’ll just print the dollars for ourselves. This, of course will bring economic disaster to our future. Remember Argentina? In the 1930’s Argentina was the 5th wealthiest nation in the world. Then came Juan Peron, the charismatic politician who sought a “Third Way” between capitalism and socialism and who promised “social justice” and “social aid.” He fulfilled those promises in spades. In doing so, indebted his country by gigantically increasing the money debt for his socialist projects. The echoes of that debt and reckless spending led to economic crisis 40 years later. Now, instead of being one of the most prosperous countries in the world, today 1 in 5 Argentinians live in dire poverty. And the import of this is that, by printing money to fund the new administration’s wasteful programs, Argentina foreshadows what’s in store for our future. Don’t cry for our children, America.
February 14, 2009 at 10:28 AM #346943picpoule
ParticipantSome here think we’re borrowing the Trillion or so that the stimulus bill mandates. Wrong. China is already balking at funding us for this. What to do now? Why, we’ll just print the dollars for ourselves. This, of course will bring economic disaster to our future. Remember Argentina? In the 1930’s Argentina was the 5th wealthiest nation in the world. Then came Juan Peron, the charismatic politician who sought a “Third Way” between capitalism and socialism and who promised “social justice” and “social aid.” He fulfilled those promises in spades. In doing so, indebted his country by gigantically increasing the money debt for his socialist projects. The echoes of that debt and reckless spending led to economic crisis 40 years later. Now, instead of being one of the most prosperous countries in the world, today 1 in 5 Argentinians live in dire poverty. And the import of this is that, by printing money to fund the new administration’s wasteful programs, Argentina foreshadows what’s in store for our future. Don’t cry for our children, America.
February 14, 2009 at 8:47 PM #346489cr
Participant[quote=ralphfurley]I had no clue what PPT was so I looked it up on wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Working_Group_on_Financial_Markets
Interesting stuff. Doesn’t seem like a stretch by any means. If the government is going to throw tons of money at these financial institutions, why not manipulate the market a little bit to prevent things from melting down?[/quote]
Maybe the PPT was out buying houses to stabilize that market and the magnitude of it distracted them and lead to the fall of the stock market, which recaptured their attention and lead to the various bailouts, and a resumed plummetting of housing…
*edit*
Just found this from Mish on the PPT:
PPT Conspiracy Theory- The government created a good working plan to frequently stabilize the markets.
- The government kept that plan quiet.
- The government implemented that plan with the help of others (market makers, order takers, etc).
- The participants in the plan all keep quiet about it.
- The government plan is carried out to perfection.
- The plan works so well that no one can even prove the existence of the plan.
- The results mysteriously happen right near moving averages.
Massive Sheep Herding Theory
A 8,263+ hedge funds all have been trained over time to buy breakdowns especially at or near moving averages.
Loose monetary policy by the Fed has been supportive of that action.So which is it? To believe the former you have to believe that this administration and/or this Fed can routinely carry out such a plan to perfection for 6 years running with no one willing to expose it. Making the problem even more difficult is the fact that most CTs think this administration and this Fed are both completely incompetent. It’s time to face the facts. The PPT is simply not operating on a day to day or even a routine basis. In fact it’s entirely possible, perhaps even likely, that it has never acted ever.
February 14, 2009 at 8:47 PM #346810cr
Participant[quote=ralphfurley]I had no clue what PPT was so I looked it up on wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Working_Group_on_Financial_Markets
Interesting stuff. Doesn’t seem like a stretch by any means. If the government is going to throw tons of money at these financial institutions, why not manipulate the market a little bit to prevent things from melting down?[/quote]
Maybe the PPT was out buying houses to stabilize that market and the magnitude of it distracted them and lead to the fall of the stock market, which recaptured their attention and lead to the various bailouts, and a resumed plummetting of housing…
*edit*
Just found this from Mish on the PPT:
PPT Conspiracy Theory- The government created a good working plan to frequently stabilize the markets.
- The government kept that plan quiet.
- The government implemented that plan with the help of others (market makers, order takers, etc).
- The participants in the plan all keep quiet about it.
- The government plan is carried out to perfection.
- The plan works so well that no one can even prove the existence of the plan.
- The results mysteriously happen right near moving averages.
Massive Sheep Herding Theory
A 8,263+ hedge funds all have been trained over time to buy breakdowns especially at or near moving averages.
Loose monetary policy by the Fed has been supportive of that action.So which is it? To believe the former you have to believe that this administration and/or this Fed can routinely carry out such a plan to perfection for 6 years running with no one willing to expose it. Making the problem even more difficult is the fact that most CTs think this administration and this Fed are both completely incompetent. It’s time to face the facts. The PPT is simply not operating on a day to day or even a routine basis. In fact it’s entirely possible, perhaps even likely, that it has never acted ever.
February 14, 2009 at 8:47 PM #346921cr
Participant[quote=ralphfurley]I had no clue what PPT was so I looked it up on wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Working_Group_on_Financial_Markets
Interesting stuff. Doesn’t seem like a stretch by any means. If the government is going to throw tons of money at these financial institutions, why not manipulate the market a little bit to prevent things from melting down?[/quote]
Maybe the PPT was out buying houses to stabilize that market and the magnitude of it distracted them and lead to the fall of the stock market, which recaptured their attention and lead to the various bailouts, and a resumed plummetting of housing…
*edit*
Just found this from Mish on the PPT:
PPT Conspiracy Theory- The government created a good working plan to frequently stabilize the markets.
- The government kept that plan quiet.
- The government implemented that plan with the help of others (market makers, order takers, etc).
- The participants in the plan all keep quiet about it.
- The government plan is carried out to perfection.
- The plan works so well that no one can even prove the existence of the plan.
- The results mysteriously happen right near moving averages.
Massive Sheep Herding Theory
A 8,263+ hedge funds all have been trained over time to buy breakdowns especially at or near moving averages.
Loose monetary policy by the Fed has been supportive of that action.So which is it? To believe the former you have to believe that this administration and/or this Fed can routinely carry out such a plan to perfection for 6 years running with no one willing to expose it. Making the problem even more difficult is the fact that most CTs think this administration and this Fed are both completely incompetent. It’s time to face the facts. The PPT is simply not operating on a day to day or even a routine basis. In fact it’s entirely possible, perhaps even likely, that it has never acted ever.
February 14, 2009 at 8:47 PM #346955cr
Participant[quote=ralphfurley]I had no clue what PPT was so I looked it up on wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Working_Group_on_Financial_Markets
Interesting stuff. Doesn’t seem like a stretch by any means. If the government is going to throw tons of money at these financial institutions, why not manipulate the market a little bit to prevent things from melting down?[/quote]
Maybe the PPT was out buying houses to stabilize that market and the magnitude of it distracted them and lead to the fall of the stock market, which recaptured their attention and lead to the various bailouts, and a resumed plummetting of housing…
*edit*
Just found this from Mish on the PPT:
PPT Conspiracy Theory- The government created a good working plan to frequently stabilize the markets.
- The government kept that plan quiet.
- The government implemented that plan with the help of others (market makers, order takers, etc).
- The participants in the plan all keep quiet about it.
- The government plan is carried out to perfection.
- The plan works so well that no one can even prove the existence of the plan.
- The results mysteriously happen right near moving averages.
Massive Sheep Herding Theory
A 8,263+ hedge funds all have been trained over time to buy breakdowns especially at or near moving averages.
Loose monetary policy by the Fed has been supportive of that action.So which is it? To believe the former you have to believe that this administration and/or this Fed can routinely carry out such a plan to perfection for 6 years running with no one willing to expose it. Making the problem even more difficult is the fact that most CTs think this administration and this Fed are both completely incompetent. It’s time to face the facts. The PPT is simply not operating on a day to day or even a routine basis. In fact it’s entirely possible, perhaps even likely, that it has never acted ever.
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