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June 21, 2007 at 12:22 PM #61090June 21, 2007 at 3:24 PM #611214plexownerParticipant
I wonder if the June 11 report corresponds to the shortened work-week after Memorial Day weekend – holiday weekend and then sit around work and talk about it all day tuesday – no NODs or NOTs processed until wednesday – just a thought …
June 21, 2007 at 3:24 PM #611584plexownerParticipantI wonder if the June 11 report corresponds to the shortened work-week after Memorial Day weekend – holiday weekend and then sit around work and talk about it all day tuesday – no NODs or NOTs processed until wednesday – just a thought …
June 21, 2007 at 3:29 PM #61123sdrealtorParticipantProbably. The question is whether this was just a catch-up week from the backlog or a harbinger.
June 21, 2007 at 3:29 PM #61160sdrealtorParticipantProbably. The question is whether this was just a catch-up week from the backlog or a harbinger.
June 21, 2007 at 3:42 PM #61127no_such_realityParticipantdeath of the 1st born
Wouldn’t that be the condo market? I think we pronounced that dead this time last year…
June 21, 2007 at 3:42 PM #61164no_such_realityParticipantdeath of the 1st born
Wouldn’t that be the condo market? I think we pronounced that dead this time last year…
June 21, 2007 at 9:55 PM #61246temeculaguyParticipantI think is to be expected to just now see the beginning of the NOD/NOT numbers going up, the worst is yet to come, here’s why.
If you look at a reset graph, there is about a 2 year bulge that just starts to rise this month, will increase over the next 6 months and stay high for a year and begin to decline over the last six months.
Souther California Loans from 2003-2006 were primarily agjustable, S.D. was over 80% in new loans for some of those years, I don’t know the breakdown of the various types of adjustable loans.
Interest rates are a little higher than they were at the time the loans were made, even if the rates were the same, the payments would jump, for some it will be much worse depending on the loan terms.
Both lifeboats have been lost for people unable to handle the reset payments, they can’t sell and they can’t refi (some not all but it gets worse every month).
A Nod takes three or months to show up, a not can be longer, meaning that todays nods and nots were in trouble between nov 06 to feb 07, pre subprime implosion and there were still bigger fools at that time.
Most people, even subprime people can survive a few months before missing mortgage payments by borrowing from relatives, credit cards, etc. So I think they were in trouble even further back, summer 06 when things got tough and it was a smaller number of people than those today, there was more hope last year, less chance of walking away and more chance to try and hold it together, today the message from realtors, friends, the media, is more likely to paint a gloomier picture than last year.
So what we have with today’s reset payment recipient, to use the analogy of a ship at sea, the number of bodies we are finding washing ashore today were aboard a small ship that sank, close to shore in calm water with sufficient life boats. Right now, bigger ships are sailing further from shore, into rough weather and without lifeboats, in addition there are more of those boats and even more behind them with fewer coast guard ships to save them. And the boat that sinks today, those that are treading water will give up sooner because they won’t know which way to swim.
Morbid analogy but that’s how I see it, you NOD/NOT list will be twice what it is today in six months.
June 21, 2007 at 9:55 PM #61285temeculaguyParticipantI think is to be expected to just now see the beginning of the NOD/NOT numbers going up, the worst is yet to come, here’s why.
If you look at a reset graph, there is about a 2 year bulge that just starts to rise this month, will increase over the next 6 months and stay high for a year and begin to decline over the last six months.
Souther California Loans from 2003-2006 were primarily agjustable, S.D. was over 80% in new loans for some of those years, I don’t know the breakdown of the various types of adjustable loans.
Interest rates are a little higher than they were at the time the loans were made, even if the rates were the same, the payments would jump, for some it will be much worse depending on the loan terms.
Both lifeboats have been lost for people unable to handle the reset payments, they can’t sell and they can’t refi (some not all but it gets worse every month).
A Nod takes three or months to show up, a not can be longer, meaning that todays nods and nots were in trouble between nov 06 to feb 07, pre subprime implosion and there were still bigger fools at that time.
Most people, even subprime people can survive a few months before missing mortgage payments by borrowing from relatives, credit cards, etc. So I think they were in trouble even further back, summer 06 when things got tough and it was a smaller number of people than those today, there was more hope last year, less chance of walking away and more chance to try and hold it together, today the message from realtors, friends, the media, is more likely to paint a gloomier picture than last year.
So what we have with today’s reset payment recipient, to use the analogy of a ship at sea, the number of bodies we are finding washing ashore today were aboard a small ship that sank, close to shore in calm water with sufficient life boats. Right now, bigger ships are sailing further from shore, into rough weather and without lifeboats, in addition there are more of those boats and even more behind them with fewer coast guard ships to save them. And the boat that sinks today, those that are treading water will give up sooner because they won’t know which way to swim.
Morbid analogy but that’s how I see it, you NOD/NOT list will be twice what it is today in six months.
June 27, 2007 at 10:23 AM #62444North County JimParticipantI thought I’d provide the numbers from the June 26 report.
312 NODs
236 NOTs
142 REOsThere’s a lot of week-to-week volatility. I think we’ll need more data points before we can proclaim a definite trend.
Anybody have data going back before May 29?
June 27, 2007 at 10:23 AM #62491North County JimParticipantI thought I’d provide the numbers from the June 26 report.
312 NODs
236 NOTs
142 REOsThere’s a lot of week-to-week volatility. I think we’ll need more data points before we can proclaim a definite trend.
Anybody have data going back before May 29?
June 27, 2007 at 10:45 AM #62456SD RealtorParticipantDeleted I just found out the answer to my question..
June 27, 2007 at 10:45 AM #62503SD RealtorParticipantDeleted I just found out the answer to my question..
June 27, 2007 at 1:11 PM #62514sdrealtorParticipantI meant to post this yesterday when i got my new report. The NOD report was about 82 pages long which is longer than it had been but it looks like last week was a catch up week from the holiday weekend.
June 27, 2007 at 1:11 PM #62562sdrealtorParticipantI meant to post this yesterday when i got my new report. The NOD report was about 82 pages long which is longer than it had been but it looks like last week was a catch up week from the holiday weekend.
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