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May 17, 2010 at 9:06 AM #551818May 17, 2010 at 11:06 AM #550862sdrealtorParticipant
Like real estate this is nowhere near as easy as you try to make it out to be. You could divide middle class into alot more than 3 levels. It also depends upon age, upward mobility and job type. This is a rough example but you should get the picture.
For example, consider 4 househols
1.) HH lead by construction worker in their mid 50’s with 150k income (at or past peak earning)
2.) Public sector HH in their mid 40’s (2 teachers, 20 yr fire/police vet etc.) with an $150K income (close to peak earning and little upward mobility)
3.) Professional HH (engineer and nurse) in mid 30’s with 150K income (mid career with some upward mobility)
4.) Professional HH (attorney or physician) in late 20’s with a $150K income (just getting started and huge upward mobility)
I would not consider them all to be same class. Would you?
May 17, 2010 at 11:06 AM #550969sdrealtorParticipantLike real estate this is nowhere near as easy as you try to make it out to be. You could divide middle class into alot more than 3 levels. It also depends upon age, upward mobility and job type. This is a rough example but you should get the picture.
For example, consider 4 househols
1.) HH lead by construction worker in their mid 50’s with 150k income (at or past peak earning)
2.) Public sector HH in their mid 40’s (2 teachers, 20 yr fire/police vet etc.) with an $150K income (close to peak earning and little upward mobility)
3.) Professional HH (engineer and nurse) in mid 30’s with 150K income (mid career with some upward mobility)
4.) Professional HH (attorney or physician) in late 20’s with a $150K income (just getting started and huge upward mobility)
I would not consider them all to be same class. Would you?
May 17, 2010 at 11:06 AM #551456sdrealtorParticipantLike real estate this is nowhere near as easy as you try to make it out to be. You could divide middle class into alot more than 3 levels. It also depends upon age, upward mobility and job type. This is a rough example but you should get the picture.
For example, consider 4 househols
1.) HH lead by construction worker in their mid 50’s with 150k income (at or past peak earning)
2.) Public sector HH in their mid 40’s (2 teachers, 20 yr fire/police vet etc.) with an $150K income (close to peak earning and little upward mobility)
3.) Professional HH (engineer and nurse) in mid 30’s with 150K income (mid career with some upward mobility)
4.) Professional HH (attorney or physician) in late 20’s with a $150K income (just getting started and huge upward mobility)
I would not consider them all to be same class. Would you?
May 17, 2010 at 11:06 AM #551555sdrealtorParticipantLike real estate this is nowhere near as easy as you try to make it out to be. You could divide middle class into alot more than 3 levels. It also depends upon age, upward mobility and job type. This is a rough example but you should get the picture.
For example, consider 4 househols
1.) HH lead by construction worker in their mid 50’s with 150k income (at or past peak earning)
2.) Public sector HH in their mid 40’s (2 teachers, 20 yr fire/police vet etc.) with an $150K income (close to peak earning and little upward mobility)
3.) Professional HH (engineer and nurse) in mid 30’s with 150K income (mid career with some upward mobility)
4.) Professional HH (attorney or physician) in late 20’s with a $150K income (just getting started and huge upward mobility)
I would not consider them all to be same class. Would you?
May 17, 2010 at 11:06 AM #551833sdrealtorParticipantLike real estate this is nowhere near as easy as you try to make it out to be. You could divide middle class into alot more than 3 levels. It also depends upon age, upward mobility and job type. This is a rough example but you should get the picture.
For example, consider 4 househols
1.) HH lead by construction worker in their mid 50’s with 150k income (at or past peak earning)
2.) Public sector HH in their mid 40’s (2 teachers, 20 yr fire/police vet etc.) with an $150K income (close to peak earning and little upward mobility)
3.) Professional HH (engineer and nurse) in mid 30’s with 150K income (mid career with some upward mobility)
4.) Professional HH (attorney or physician) in late 20’s with a $150K income (just getting started and huge upward mobility)
I would not consider them all to be same class. Would you?
May 17, 2010 at 11:07 AM #550866anParticipantsdrealtor, your #3 should have the age of mid/late 20’s. 2 Full time engineers or nurses should easily have HH income of $150k by the time they’re 26-27, if they graduated around 22 yrs. of age. For RN who go straight into 2 yr. RN program after HS and graduate at 20, they should be making around $75k each by the time they’re 25.
May 17, 2010 at 11:07 AM #550974anParticipantsdrealtor, your #3 should have the age of mid/late 20’s. 2 Full time engineers or nurses should easily have HH income of $150k by the time they’re 26-27, if they graduated around 22 yrs. of age. For RN who go straight into 2 yr. RN program after HS and graduate at 20, they should be making around $75k each by the time they’re 25.
May 17, 2010 at 11:07 AM #551461anParticipantsdrealtor, your #3 should have the age of mid/late 20’s. 2 Full time engineers or nurses should easily have HH income of $150k by the time they’re 26-27, if they graduated around 22 yrs. of age. For RN who go straight into 2 yr. RN program after HS and graduate at 20, they should be making around $75k each by the time they’re 25.
May 17, 2010 at 11:07 AM #551560anParticipantsdrealtor, your #3 should have the age of mid/late 20’s. 2 Full time engineers or nurses should easily have HH income of $150k by the time they’re 26-27, if they graduated around 22 yrs. of age. For RN who go straight into 2 yr. RN program after HS and graduate at 20, they should be making around $75k each by the time they’re 25.
May 17, 2010 at 11:07 AM #551838anParticipantsdrealtor, your #3 should have the age of mid/late 20’s. 2 Full time engineers or nurses should easily have HH income of $150k by the time they’re 26-27, if they graduated around 22 yrs. of age. For RN who go straight into 2 yr. RN program after HS and graduate at 20, they should be making around $75k each by the time they’re 25.
May 17, 2010 at 11:16 AM #550871UCGalParticipantAdd me to the club that disagrees that PQ was ever lower middle class.
And I find it funny to call PQ a bedroom community when compared to Chula Vista. Sure it’s a bedroom community because there are only a few largeish employers in PQ proper… but many are nearby. Just my personal observations (based on watching freeway congestion) More people commute OUT of Chula Vista than into it.
Like a large percentage of San Diego county residents, I work in Sorrento Valley. Qualcomm (largest private employer in the county), Websense, etc are all here. And Torrey Pines is home to most of the biotech/pharma. For many, this is where the jobs are.
But southbay has NASSCO, 32nd street, North Island, etc… so there are jobs in south bay. I guess it’s all persepective. You see people around you that have reasonably short commutes – because they purchased near their job, or because they sought jobs close by. I see the same thing in the North part of San Diego…. (Except those coworkers who bought in Otay because they wanted BIG houses for less than 4S prices.)
May 17, 2010 at 11:16 AM #550979UCGalParticipantAdd me to the club that disagrees that PQ was ever lower middle class.
And I find it funny to call PQ a bedroom community when compared to Chula Vista. Sure it’s a bedroom community because there are only a few largeish employers in PQ proper… but many are nearby. Just my personal observations (based on watching freeway congestion) More people commute OUT of Chula Vista than into it.
Like a large percentage of San Diego county residents, I work in Sorrento Valley. Qualcomm (largest private employer in the county), Websense, etc are all here. And Torrey Pines is home to most of the biotech/pharma. For many, this is where the jobs are.
But southbay has NASSCO, 32nd street, North Island, etc… so there are jobs in south bay. I guess it’s all persepective. You see people around you that have reasonably short commutes – because they purchased near their job, or because they sought jobs close by. I see the same thing in the North part of San Diego…. (Except those coworkers who bought in Otay because they wanted BIG houses for less than 4S prices.)
May 17, 2010 at 11:16 AM #551466UCGalParticipantAdd me to the club that disagrees that PQ was ever lower middle class.
And I find it funny to call PQ a bedroom community when compared to Chula Vista. Sure it’s a bedroom community because there are only a few largeish employers in PQ proper… but many are nearby. Just my personal observations (based on watching freeway congestion) More people commute OUT of Chula Vista than into it.
Like a large percentage of San Diego county residents, I work in Sorrento Valley. Qualcomm (largest private employer in the county), Websense, etc are all here. And Torrey Pines is home to most of the biotech/pharma. For many, this is where the jobs are.
But southbay has NASSCO, 32nd street, North Island, etc… so there are jobs in south bay. I guess it’s all persepective. You see people around you that have reasonably short commutes – because they purchased near their job, or because they sought jobs close by. I see the same thing in the North part of San Diego…. (Except those coworkers who bought in Otay because they wanted BIG houses for less than 4S prices.)
May 17, 2010 at 11:16 AM #551565UCGalParticipantAdd me to the club that disagrees that PQ was ever lower middle class.
And I find it funny to call PQ a bedroom community when compared to Chula Vista. Sure it’s a bedroom community because there are only a few largeish employers in PQ proper… but many are nearby. Just my personal observations (based on watching freeway congestion) More people commute OUT of Chula Vista than into it.
Like a large percentage of San Diego county residents, I work in Sorrento Valley. Qualcomm (largest private employer in the county), Websense, etc are all here. And Torrey Pines is home to most of the biotech/pharma. For many, this is where the jobs are.
But southbay has NASSCO, 32nd street, North Island, etc… so there are jobs in south bay. I guess it’s all persepective. You see people around you that have reasonably short commutes – because they purchased near their job, or because they sought jobs close by. I see the same thing in the North part of San Diego…. (Except those coworkers who bought in Otay because they wanted BIG houses for less than 4S prices.)
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