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August 5, 2007 at 5:46 PM #70648August 5, 2007 at 6:06 PM #70660
temeculaguy
ParticipantSd I would almost expect that you would get identified because you are in the industry and it it has a networking element to it, plus you’ve shared some past experiences, even without the details I think a peer of your would figure it out.
Now I think the media is stealing story ideas from this and other sites, eveytime I read some tidbit or rumor on these threads there is a story a day or two later in the media, it’s probably not the case but it just keeps happening.
There are threads here for weeks claiming that zero down will go away, jumbo’s are in trouble and a few e-mail exerpts posted from insiders, bam, 2 hours ago msn breaks a story that could have been taken from here last week. HMMMNN
August 5, 2007 at 6:06 PM #70668ParticipantSd I would almost expect that you would get identified because you are in the industry and it it has a networking element to it, plus you’ve shared some past experiences, even without the details I think a peer of your would figure it out.
Now I think the media is stealing story ideas from this and other sites, eveytime I read some tidbit or rumor on these threads there is a story a day or two later in the media, it’s probably not the case but it just keeps happening.
There are threads here for weeks claiming that zero down will go away, jumbo’s are in trouble and a few e-mail exerpts posted from insiders, bam, 2 hours ago msn breaks a story that could have been taken from here last week. HMMMNN
August 5, 2007 at 6:06 PM #70555ParticipantSd I would almost expect that you would get identified because you are in the industry and it it has a networking element to it, plus you’ve shared some past experiences, even without the details I think a peer of your would figure it out.
Now I think the media is stealing story ideas from this and other sites, eveytime I read some tidbit or rumor on these threads there is a story a day or two later in the media, it’s probably not the case but it just keeps happening.
There are threads here for weeks claiming that zero down will go away, jumbo’s are in trouble and a few e-mail exerpts posted from insiders, bam, 2 hours ago msn breaks a story that could have been taken from here last week. HMMMNN
August 5, 2007 at 6:43 PM #70565JWM in SD
ParticipantTemecula Guy,
I suspect there are 5 to 10 blogs that the media is regularly lurking at including this one. I first got tipped off to that over a year ago when Jon Lanser at the OC Register approached Ben Jones to invite his regular posters to ask a series of questions about the housing market in OC. After that point, Lansers news stories started to become more bearish to point that his bloggers were complaining about how Lanser only published bad news. Fast Forward to February / March: the Suprime Implosion of New Century. All of the sudden Mathew Padilla shows up on the OC Register RE site and is chronicling the Subprime Meltdown and now there are no more permabull posters on OC Register RE blogs anymore. They are extinct.
Here are the sites that I think the MSM is following/lurking at:
Ben Jones Housing Bubble
Patrick.net
Piggington
Calculated Risk
Mish Shedlock
Housing Panic
Bubble Market Inventory Tracking or BMITHow do you think Cramer was rattling off all of his nonsense this week. Hell, he sounded more like me than I do with the exception of the rate reduction bull crap.
August 5, 2007 at 6:43 PM #70676ParticipantTemecula Guy,
I suspect there are 5 to 10 blogs that the media is regularly lurking at including this one. I first got tipped off to that over a year ago when Jon Lanser at the OC Register approached Ben Jones to invite his regular posters to ask a series of questions about the housing market in OC. After that point, Lansers news stories started to become more bearish to point that his bloggers were complaining about how Lanser only published bad news. Fast Forward to February / March: the Suprime Implosion of New Century. All of the sudden Mathew Padilla shows up on the OC Register RE site and is chronicling the Subprime Meltdown and now there are no more permabull posters on OC Register RE blogs anymore. They are extinct.
Here are the sites that I think the MSM is following/lurking at:
Ben Jones Housing Bubble
Patrick.net
Piggington
Calculated Risk
Mish Shedlock
Housing Panic
Bubble Market Inventory Tracking or BMITHow do you think Cramer was rattling off all of his nonsense this week. Hell, he sounded more like me than I do with the exception of the rate reduction bull crap.
August 5, 2007 at 6:43 PM #70683ParticipantTemecula Guy,
I suspect there are 5 to 10 blogs that the media is regularly lurking at including this one. I first got tipped off to that over a year ago when Jon Lanser at the OC Register approached Ben Jones to invite his regular posters to ask a series of questions about the housing market in OC. After that point, Lansers news stories started to become more bearish to point that his bloggers were complaining about how Lanser only published bad news. Fast Forward to February / March: the Suprime Implosion of New Century. All of the sudden Mathew Padilla shows up on the OC Register RE site and is chronicling the Subprime Meltdown and now there are no more permabull posters on OC Register RE blogs anymore. They are extinct.
Here are the sites that I think the MSM is following/lurking at:
Ben Jones Housing Bubble
Patrick.net
Piggington
Calculated Risk
Mish Shedlock
Housing Panic
Bubble Market Inventory Tracking or BMITHow do you think Cramer was rattling off all of his nonsense this week. Hell, he sounded more like me than I do with the exception of the rate reduction bull crap.
August 5, 2007 at 7:34 PM #70591bob007
Participantwhy should you tell that you read the housing blogs ?
August 5, 2007 at 7:34 PM #70707Participantwhy should you tell that you read the housing blogs ?
August 5, 2007 at 7:34 PM #70713Participantwhy should you tell that you read the housing blogs ?
August 5, 2007 at 8:16 PM #70628ParticipantJWM, thank you that was insightful. I guess I underestimated my little hobby, thinking it was an electronic modern day barbershop only interesting to those of us participating in it.
bob, I didn’t have to tell her that I read them but what’s the harm in it really? In most cases it is probably better that the salesperson knows they have an informed buyer regardless of what they are selling, like a guy walking onto a car lot with his internet printed invoice price. I only divulged it after a conversation where she sounded like one of us anyway, no b.s. or plattitudes, just some honest answers much like the two sdrealtors, bugs, rustico, HLS and a few other people connected to the biz usually give. It could have been a ploy to play to the buyer (if it was it worked) but I doubt it, my line of work is about reading people and their motivations and I got a good read so I would prefer to do business with someone like that (of course the price isn’t where i think it is going just yet, but compared to others it’s getting closer). With the credit crunch I think the down cycle just got a shot of steriods and the knife may fall faster than anticipated so I am finding out what exactly I want and who I wan’t to do business with for when time does come.
August 5, 2007 at 8:16 PM #70749ParticipantJWM, thank you that was insightful. I guess I underestimated my little hobby, thinking it was an electronic modern day barbershop only interesting to those of us participating in it.
bob, I didn’t have to tell her that I read them but what’s the harm in it really? In most cases it is probably better that the salesperson knows they have an informed buyer regardless of what they are selling, like a guy walking onto a car lot with his internet printed invoice price. I only divulged it after a conversation where she sounded like one of us anyway, no b.s. or plattitudes, just some honest answers much like the two sdrealtors, bugs, rustico, HLS and a few other people connected to the biz usually give. It could have been a ploy to play to the buyer (if it was it worked) but I doubt it, my line of work is about reading people and their motivations and I got a good read so I would prefer to do business with someone like that (of course the price isn’t where i think it is going just yet, but compared to others it’s getting closer). With the credit crunch I think the down cycle just got a shot of steriods and the knife may fall faster than anticipated so I am finding out what exactly I want and who I wan’t to do business with for when time does come.
August 5, 2007 at 8:16 PM #70742ParticipantJWM, thank you that was insightful. I guess I underestimated my little hobby, thinking it was an electronic modern day barbershop only interesting to those of us participating in it.
bob, I didn’t have to tell her that I read them but what’s the harm in it really? In most cases it is probably better that the salesperson knows they have an informed buyer regardless of what they are selling, like a guy walking onto a car lot with his internet printed invoice price. I only divulged it after a conversation where she sounded like one of us anyway, no b.s. or plattitudes, just some honest answers much like the two sdrealtors, bugs, rustico, HLS and a few other people connected to the biz usually give. It could have been a ploy to play to the buyer (if it was it worked) but I doubt it, my line of work is about reading people and their motivations and I got a good read so I would prefer to do business with someone like that (of course the price isn’t where i think it is going just yet, but compared to others it’s getting closer). With the credit crunch I think the down cycle just got a shot of steriods and the knife may fall faster than anticipated so I am finding out what exactly I want and who I wan’t to do business with for when time does come.
August 5, 2007 at 8:34 PM #70646Participant“JWM, thank you that was insightful. I guess I underestimated my little hobby, thinking it was an electronic modern day barbershop only interesting to those of us participating in it.”
No problem. I’ll go one step further with this. I have long suspected that some of the trolls and newbies who still occasionally post here are really the MSM. Think about it. If you had to report on this story recently, these sites would make your job really easy as a reporter. If you wanted to get some opinions on what the bloggers think then what better way than to ask a stupid question or one that is obviously wrong headed. You would get a barrage of responses that would range from helpful to confrontational (me mostly).
These housing blogs are a treasure trove of information on a really complicated subject and they have a lot credibility right now for having made a lot of correct calls on the RE market.
August 5, 2007 at 8:34 PM #70767Participant“JWM, thank you that was insightful. I guess I underestimated my little hobby, thinking it was an electronic modern day barbershop only interesting to those of us participating in it.”
No problem. I’ll go one step further with this. I have long suspected that some of the trolls and newbies who still occasionally post here are really the MSM. Think about it. If you had to report on this story recently, these sites would make your job really easy as a reporter. If you wanted to get some opinions on what the bloggers think then what better way than to ask a stupid question or one that is obviously wrong headed. You would get a barrage of responses that would range from helpful to confrontational (me mostly).
These housing blogs are a treasure trove of information on a really complicated subject and they have a lot credibility right now for having made a lot of correct calls on the RE market.
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