Murrieta/Temecula to get High Speed Rail Station

[afx114]

Just got back from Spain, and man-oh-man was it great being able to zip from city to city in a few hours on a comfy, spacious train with electrical outlets for laptops and gadgets, a barcar with pretty servers pouring tasty beverages, and 3G cell service available for me to GSD (get shit done). All for relatively cheap and easy when compared to the headache and hassles of car/plane travel.

A man can wish for such wonder to come to the US, can’t he?

Granted, we have different problems than the likes of Europe and Japan (urban sprawl, larger distances), but it seems inevitable to me that we will eventually need some sort of efficient rail transport in order to more efficiently GSD (see above).

I’m curious how many of the “build more freeway lanes” crowd has ever ridden a rail in Europe or Japan.

[Anonymous]

Exactly and good pointafx114, We can buildin 18 lane freeways and they will always need more. Sooner or later we will need the mass transit and it is better to build it now then try later. besides bigger freeways? come on were are you going to build out the 5 north through the beach cities??? can’t happen. CalTrans is having a hard time getting the car pool lanes in. Bigger Freeways? Dinosaur thinking.

[Anonymous]

Exactly and good pointafx114, We can buildin 18 lane freeways and they will always need more. Sooner or later we will need the mass transit and it is better to build it now then try later. besides bigger freeways? come on were are you going to build out the 5 north through the beach cities??? can’t happen. CalTrans is having a hard time getting the car pool lanes in. Bigger Freeways? Dinosaur thinking.

[Anonymous]

Exactly and good pointafx114, We can buildin 18 lane freeways and they will always need more. Sooner or later we will need the mass transit and it is better to build it now then try later. besides bigger freeways? come on were are you going to build out the 5 north through the beach cities??? can’t happen. CalTrans is having a hard time getting the car pool lanes in. Bigger Freeways? Dinosaur thinking.

[Anonymous]

Exactly and good pointafx114, We can buildin 18 lane freeways and they will always need more. Sooner or later we will need the mass transit and it is better to build it now then try later. besides bigger freeways? come on were are you going to build out the 5 north through the beach cities??? can’t happen. CalTrans is having a hard time getting the car pool lanes in. Bigger Freeways? Dinosaur thinking.

[Anonymous]

Exactly and good pointafx114, We can buildin 18 lane freeways and they will always need more. Sooner or later we will need the mass transit and it is better to build it now then try later. besides bigger freeways? come on were are you going to build out the 5 north through the beach cities??? can’t happen. CalTrans is having a hard time getting the car pool lanes in. Bigger Freeways? Dinosaur thinking.

[briansd1]

[quote=PlnrBoy]come on were are you going to build out the 5 north through the beach cities??? can’t happen. [/quote]

We could have an elevated express freeway right above the I5. And put the high-speed tracks up there too.

We are 50 years behind Europe and Asia as far as rail is concerned. The stimulus package provides $8 billion for high speed rail. China is spending nearly $300 billion; and you know that labor in China is much cheaper than here.

The problem with rail in America is riders. We need to change urban planning first before rail is viable. In Europe, after WWII, people already lived in dense urban centers so when they built the rail networks, the customers were already eagerly awaiting.

In America, the concept of build-it-and-they-will-come is a recipe for bankruptcy. Americans won’t have the stomach to subsidize the transport agencies forever.

Local planning need to change to allow dense development without parking for public transport to be viable.

When I see buses with less then 20 passengers in them, I think of all the wasted public money.

[briansd1]

[quote=PlnrBoy]come on were are you going to build out the 5 north through the beach cities??? can’t happen. [/quote]

We could have an elevated express freeway right above the I5. And put the high-speed tracks up there too.

We are 50 years behind Europe and Asia as far as rail is concerned. The stimulus package provides $8 billion for high speed rail. China is spending nearly $300 billion; and you know that labor in China is much cheaper than here.

The problem with rail in America is riders. We need to change urban planning first before rail is viable. In Europe, after WWII, people already lived in dense urban centers so when they built the rail networks, the customers were already eagerly awaiting.

In America, the concept of build-it-and-they-will-come is a recipe for bankruptcy. Americans won’t have the stomach to subsidize the transport agencies forever.

Local planning need to change to allow dense development without parking for public transport to be viable.

When I see buses with less then 20 passengers in them, I think of all the wasted public money.

[briansd1]

[quote=PlnrBoy]come on were are you going to build out the 5 north through the beach cities??? can’t happen. [/quote]

We could have an elevated express freeway right above the I5. And put the high-speed tracks up there too.

We are 50 years behind Europe and Asia as far as rail is concerned. The stimulus package provides $8 billion for high speed rail. China is spending nearly $300 billion; and you know that labor in China is much cheaper than here.

The problem with rail in America is riders. We need to change urban planning first before rail is viable. In Europe, after WWII, people already lived in dense urban centers so when they built the rail networks, the customers were already eagerly awaiting.

In America, the concept of build-it-and-they-will-come is a recipe for bankruptcy. Americans won’t have the stomach to subsidize the transport agencies forever.

Local planning need to change to allow dense development without parking for public transport to be viable.

When I see buses with less then 20 passengers in them, I think of all the wasted public money.

[briansd1]

[quote=PlnrBoy]come on were are you going to build out the 5 north through the beach cities??? can’t happen. [/quote]

We could have an elevated express freeway right above the I5. And put the high-speed tracks up there too.

We are 50 years behind Europe and Asia as far as rail is concerned. The stimulus package provides $8 billion for high speed rail. China is spending nearly $300 billion; and you know that labor in China is much cheaper than here.

The problem with rail in America is riders. We need to change urban planning first before rail is viable. In Europe, after WWII, people already lived in dense urban centers so when they built the rail networks, the customers were already eagerly awaiting.

In America, the concept of build-it-and-they-will-come is a recipe for bankruptcy. Americans won’t have the stomach to subsidize the transport agencies forever.

Local planning need to change to allow dense development without parking for public transport to be viable.

When I see buses with less then 20 passengers in them, I think of all the wasted public money.

[briansd1]

[quote=PlnrBoy]come on were are you going to build out the 5 north through the beach cities??? can’t happen. [/quote]

We could have an elevated express freeway right above the I5. And put the high-speed tracks up there too.

We are 50 years behind Europe and Asia as far as rail is concerned. The stimulus package provides $8 billion for high speed rail. China is spending nearly $300 billion; and you know that labor in China is much cheaper than here.

The problem with rail in America is riders. We need to change urban planning first before rail is viable. In Europe, after WWII, people already lived in dense urban centers so when they built the rail networks, the customers were already eagerly awaiting.

In America, the concept of build-it-and-they-will-come is a recipe for bankruptcy. Americans won’t have the stomach to subsidize the transport agencies forever.

Local planning need to change to allow dense development without parking for public transport to be viable.

When I see buses with less then 20 passengers in them, I think of all the wasted public money.

[ocrenter]

they spent $1.3 billion just on the I-15 carpool/express lanes, and the usage is minimal at best. as much as I am a rail fan, I just don’t see high speed rail as a good use of resources here.

think about the population density in Asia and Europe and how they have “real cities” there, that’s why high speed rail makes sense there.

[ocrenter]

they spent $1.3 billion just on the I-15 carpool/express lanes, and the usage is minimal at best. as much as I am a rail fan, I just don’t see high speed rail as a good use of resources here.

think about the population density in Asia and Europe and how they have “real cities” there, that’s why high speed rail makes sense there.

[ocrenter]

they spent $1.3 billion just on the I-15 carpool/express lanes, and the usage is minimal at best. as much as I am a rail fan, I just don’t see high speed rail as a good use of resources here.

think about the population density in Asia and Europe and how they have “real cities” there, that’s why high speed rail makes sense there.

[ocrenter]

they spent $1.3 billion just on the I-15 carpool/express lanes, and the usage is minimal at best. as much as I am a rail fan, I just don’t see high speed rail as a good use of resources here.

think about the population density in Asia and Europe and how they have “real cities” there, that’s why high speed rail makes sense there.

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