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January 28, 2010 at 3:03 PM #507522January 28, 2010 at 3:56 PM #506657HobieParticipant
Freeways move a tremendous amount of cars. Average traffic counts for Hwy 5 in SD-LA range between 10k-20k per hour!
Agree with NorCAl idea of starting with the ends first. But… even with a terrific rail system I’m not sure how much a dent you would put in those traffic counts.
Wider freeways is my vote both in cost and effectiveness.
Thumbs down to the transit folks who has not invested and expanded the freeway system to keep up with So Cal growth.
January 28, 2010 at 3:56 PM #506805HobieParticipantFreeways move a tremendous amount of cars. Average traffic counts for Hwy 5 in SD-LA range between 10k-20k per hour!
Agree with NorCAl idea of starting with the ends first. But… even with a terrific rail system I’m not sure how much a dent you would put in those traffic counts.
Wider freeways is my vote both in cost and effectiveness.
Thumbs down to the transit folks who has not invested and expanded the freeway system to keep up with So Cal growth.
January 28, 2010 at 3:56 PM #507214HobieParticipantFreeways move a tremendous amount of cars. Average traffic counts for Hwy 5 in SD-LA range between 10k-20k per hour!
Agree with NorCAl idea of starting with the ends first. But… even with a terrific rail system I’m not sure how much a dent you would put in those traffic counts.
Wider freeways is my vote both in cost and effectiveness.
Thumbs down to the transit folks who has not invested and expanded the freeway system to keep up with So Cal growth.
January 28, 2010 at 3:56 PM #507307HobieParticipantFreeways move a tremendous amount of cars. Average traffic counts for Hwy 5 in SD-LA range between 10k-20k per hour!
Agree with NorCAl idea of starting with the ends first. But… even with a terrific rail system I’m not sure how much a dent you would put in those traffic counts.
Wider freeways is my vote both in cost and effectiveness.
Thumbs down to the transit folks who has not invested and expanded the freeway system to keep up with So Cal growth.
January 28, 2010 at 3:56 PM #507562HobieParticipantFreeways move a tremendous amount of cars. Average traffic counts for Hwy 5 in SD-LA range between 10k-20k per hour!
Agree with NorCAl idea of starting with the ends first. But… even with a terrific rail system I’m not sure how much a dent you would put in those traffic counts.
Wider freeways is my vote both in cost and effectiveness.
Thumbs down to the transit folks who has not invested and expanded the freeway system to keep up with So Cal growth.
January 29, 2010 at 7:49 AM #506868LAAFTERHOURSParticipantWhen will these be built:
Minority Report Highway Maglev
If I recall correctly, IRobot had a similar idea.
Tell the onboard your destination, you drive the surface streets and once you hit an onramp, the highways are on autopilot. Should reduce the accidents, which reduce commutes.
January 29, 2010 at 7:49 AM #507016LAAFTERHOURSParticipantWhen will these be built:
Minority Report Highway Maglev
If I recall correctly, IRobot had a similar idea.
Tell the onboard your destination, you drive the surface streets and once you hit an onramp, the highways are on autopilot. Should reduce the accidents, which reduce commutes.
January 29, 2010 at 7:49 AM #507424LAAFTERHOURSParticipantWhen will these be built:
Minority Report Highway Maglev
If I recall correctly, IRobot had a similar idea.
Tell the onboard your destination, you drive the surface streets and once you hit an onramp, the highways are on autopilot. Should reduce the accidents, which reduce commutes.
January 29, 2010 at 7:49 AM #507517LAAFTERHOURSParticipantWhen will these be built:
Minority Report Highway Maglev
If I recall correctly, IRobot had a similar idea.
Tell the onboard your destination, you drive the surface streets and once you hit an onramp, the highways are on autopilot. Should reduce the accidents, which reduce commutes.
January 29, 2010 at 7:49 AM #507772LAAFTERHOURSParticipantWhen will these be built:
Minority Report Highway Maglev
If I recall correctly, IRobot had a similar idea.
Tell the onboard your destination, you drive the surface streets and once you hit an onramp, the highways are on autopilot. Should reduce the accidents, which reduce commutes.
January 29, 2010 at 9:48 AM #506898afx114ParticipantJust got back from Spain, and man-oh-man was it great being able to zip from city to city in a few hours on a comfy, spacious train with electrical outlets for laptops and gadgets, a barcar with pretty servers pouring tasty beverages, and 3G cell service available for me to GSD (get shit done). All for relatively cheap and easy when compared to the headache and hassles of car/plane travel.
A man can wish for such wonder to come to the US, can’t he?
Granted, we have different problems than the likes of Europe and Japan (urban sprawl, larger distances), but it seems inevitable to me that we will eventually need some sort of efficient rail transport in order to more efficiently GSD (see above).
I’m curious how many of the “build more freeway lanes” crowd has ever ridden a rail in Europe or Japan.
January 29, 2010 at 9:48 AM #507046afx114ParticipantJust got back from Spain, and man-oh-man was it great being able to zip from city to city in a few hours on a comfy, spacious train with electrical outlets for laptops and gadgets, a barcar with pretty servers pouring tasty beverages, and 3G cell service available for me to GSD (get shit done). All for relatively cheap and easy when compared to the headache and hassles of car/plane travel.
A man can wish for such wonder to come to the US, can’t he?
Granted, we have different problems than the likes of Europe and Japan (urban sprawl, larger distances), but it seems inevitable to me that we will eventually need some sort of efficient rail transport in order to more efficiently GSD (see above).
I’m curious how many of the “build more freeway lanes” crowd has ever ridden a rail in Europe or Japan.
January 29, 2010 at 9:48 AM #507454afx114ParticipantJust got back from Spain, and man-oh-man was it great being able to zip from city to city in a few hours on a comfy, spacious train with electrical outlets for laptops and gadgets, a barcar with pretty servers pouring tasty beverages, and 3G cell service available for me to GSD (get shit done). All for relatively cheap and easy when compared to the headache and hassles of car/plane travel.
A man can wish for such wonder to come to the US, can’t he?
Granted, we have different problems than the likes of Europe and Japan (urban sprawl, larger distances), but it seems inevitable to me that we will eventually need some sort of efficient rail transport in order to more efficiently GSD (see above).
I’m curious how many of the “build more freeway lanes” crowd has ever ridden a rail in Europe or Japan.
January 29, 2010 at 9:48 AM #507547afx114ParticipantJust got back from Spain, and man-oh-man was it great being able to zip from city to city in a few hours on a comfy, spacious train with electrical outlets for laptops and gadgets, a barcar with pretty servers pouring tasty beverages, and 3G cell service available for me to GSD (get shit done). All for relatively cheap and easy when compared to the headache and hassles of car/plane travel.
A man can wish for such wonder to come to the US, can’t he?
Granted, we have different problems than the likes of Europe and Japan (urban sprawl, larger distances), but it seems inevitable to me that we will eventually need some sort of efficient rail transport in order to more efficiently GSD (see above).
I’m curious how many of the “build more freeway lanes” crowd has ever ridden a rail in Europe or Japan.
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