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  • January 30, 2010 at 6:27 AM #508094
    LAAFTERHOURS
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    [quote=ocrenter]they spent $1.3 billion just on the I-15 carpool/express lanes, and the usage is minimal at best. as much as I am a rail fan, I just don’t see high speed rail as a good use of resources here.

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    You sure about that? The 15 on sigalert used to be red every morning and evening. Now it seems its not. The 5 is in much worse shape and I wish that the 5 had the dedicated central expressway like the 15 (the new section north of the 56 with multiple inlets and outlets). Allowing single drivers to pay a premium via ezpass is an excellent idea that the 5 needs. It is steep (i saw 4.60 cents on the 15 last week from escondido to the 163) but I would pay that if I were a single and the highways were gridlocked.

    To the people that suggest rails above a freeway or freeway above a freeway, what happens during a massive earthquake? Another northridge highway collapse?

    January 30, 2010 at 6:40 AM #507195
    Hobie
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    ” The 15 on sigalert used to be red every morning and evening. Now it seems its not. ”

    This I believe is a direct result of our state of economy. Fewer jobs, costler fuel.

    While we can pro/con rails, freeway lanes, the main point is we are now well behind the curve. I’m not pleased with SANDAG and CalTrans, etc. for not heeding their own population forecasts and building infrastructure before it becomes a real ( expensive ) problem to fix.

    30 yrs ago they expanded the I15 from Corona to Temec. It was empty for years but ready for the building boom that followed. This was good foresight.

    Of course the funding is always an issue, but when I see we the State dipping into the transporting funds ( gas tax ) and diverting into the general budget.. that is a problem.

    January 30, 2010 at 6:40 AM #507341
    Hobie
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    ” The 15 on sigalert used to be red every morning and evening. Now it seems its not. ”

    This I believe is a direct result of our state of economy. Fewer jobs, costler fuel.

    While we can pro/con rails, freeway lanes, the main point is we are now well behind the curve. I’m not pleased with SANDAG and CalTrans, etc. for not heeding their own population forecasts and building infrastructure before it becomes a real ( expensive ) problem to fix.

    30 yrs ago they expanded the I15 from Corona to Temec. It was empty for years but ready for the building boom that followed. This was good foresight.

    Of course the funding is always an issue, but when I see we the State dipping into the transporting funds ( gas tax ) and diverting into the general budget.. that is a problem.

    January 30, 2010 at 6:40 AM #507750
    Hobie
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    ” The 15 on sigalert used to be red every morning and evening. Now it seems its not. ”

    This I believe is a direct result of our state of economy. Fewer jobs, costler fuel.

    While we can pro/con rails, freeway lanes, the main point is we are now well behind the curve. I’m not pleased with SANDAG and CalTrans, etc. for not heeding their own population forecasts and building infrastructure before it becomes a real ( expensive ) problem to fix.

    30 yrs ago they expanded the I15 from Corona to Temec. It was empty for years but ready for the building boom that followed. This was good foresight.

    Of course the funding is always an issue, but when I see we the State dipping into the transporting funds ( gas tax ) and diverting into the general budget.. that is a problem.

    January 30, 2010 at 6:40 AM #507843
    Hobie
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    ” The 15 on sigalert used to be red every morning and evening. Now it seems its not. ”

    This I believe is a direct result of our state of economy. Fewer jobs, costler fuel.

    While we can pro/con rails, freeway lanes, the main point is we are now well behind the curve. I’m not pleased with SANDAG and CalTrans, etc. for not heeding their own population forecasts and building infrastructure before it becomes a real ( expensive ) problem to fix.

    30 yrs ago they expanded the I15 from Corona to Temec. It was empty for years but ready for the building boom that followed. This was good foresight.

    Of course the funding is always an issue, but when I see we the State dipping into the transporting funds ( gas tax ) and diverting into the general budget.. that is a problem.

    January 30, 2010 at 6:40 AM #508099
    Hobie
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    ” The 15 on sigalert used to be red every morning and evening. Now it seems its not. ”

    This I believe is a direct result of our state of economy. Fewer jobs, costler fuel.

    While we can pro/con rails, freeway lanes, the main point is we are now well behind the curve. I’m not pleased with SANDAG and CalTrans, etc. for not heeding their own population forecasts and building infrastructure before it becomes a real ( expensive ) problem to fix.

    30 yrs ago they expanded the I15 from Corona to Temec. It was empty for years but ready for the building boom that followed. This was good foresight.

    Of course the funding is always an issue, but when I see we the State dipping into the transporting funds ( gas tax ) and diverting into the general budget.. that is a problem.

    January 30, 2010 at 9:59 AM #507220
    Nor-LA-SD-guy
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    When I visited Australia, I found most of the people lived in the suburbs outside the main city very much like SoCal, the main difference is they used trains to commute to the city to work for the most part (sydney, melbourne, Brisbane and Cairns anyway).

    They still had cars for the most part, but they were more for the weekend and shopping.

    January 30, 2010 at 9:59 AM #507366
    Nor-LA-SD-guy
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    When I visited Australia, I found most of the people lived in the suburbs outside the main city very much like SoCal, the main difference is they used trains to commute to the city to work for the most part (sydney, melbourne, Brisbane and Cairns anyway).

    They still had cars for the most part, but they were more for the weekend and shopping.

    January 30, 2010 at 9:59 AM #507775
    Nor-LA-SD-guy
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    When I visited Australia, I found most of the people lived in the suburbs outside the main city very much like SoCal, the main difference is they used trains to commute to the city to work for the most part (sydney, melbourne, Brisbane and Cairns anyway).

    They still had cars for the most part, but they were more for the weekend and shopping.

    January 30, 2010 at 9:59 AM #507869
    Nor-LA-SD-guy
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    When I visited Australia, I found most of the people lived in the suburbs outside the main city very much like SoCal, the main difference is they used trains to commute to the city to work for the most part (sydney, melbourne, Brisbane and Cairns anyway).

    They still had cars for the most part, but they were more for the weekend and shopping.

    January 30, 2010 at 9:59 AM #508124
    Nor-LA-SD-guy
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    When I visited Australia, I found most of the people lived in the suburbs outside the main city very much like SoCal, the main difference is they used trains to commute to the city to work for the most part (sydney, melbourne, Brisbane and Cairns anyway).

    They still had cars for the most part, but they were more for the weekend and shopping.

    January 31, 2010 at 6:45 AM #507370
    Hobie
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    [quote=Nor-LA-SD-guy]When I visited Australia, I found most of the people lived in the suburbs outside the main city very much like SoCal, the main difference is they used trains to commute to the city to work for the most part (sydney, melbourne, Brisbane and Cairns anyway).

    They still had cars for the most part, but they were more for the weekend and shopping.[/quote]

    and fuel cost is double US price…. Still like to see all of the options suggested implemented.

    January 31, 2010 at 6:45 AM #507516
    Hobie
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    [quote=Nor-LA-SD-guy]When I visited Australia, I found most of the people lived in the suburbs outside the main city very much like SoCal, the main difference is they used trains to commute to the city to work for the most part (sydney, melbourne, Brisbane and Cairns anyway).

    They still had cars for the most part, but they were more for the weekend and shopping.[/quote]

    and fuel cost is double US price…. Still like to see all of the options suggested implemented.

    January 31, 2010 at 6:45 AM #507926
    Hobie
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    [quote=Nor-LA-SD-guy]When I visited Australia, I found most of the people lived in the suburbs outside the main city very much like SoCal, the main difference is they used trains to commute to the city to work for the most part (sydney, melbourne, Brisbane and Cairns anyway).

    They still had cars for the most part, but they were more for the weekend and shopping.[/quote]

    and fuel cost is double US price…. Still like to see all of the options suggested implemented.

    January 31, 2010 at 6:45 AM #508020
    Hobie
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    [quote=Nor-LA-SD-guy]When I visited Australia, I found most of the people lived in the suburbs outside the main city very much like SoCal, the main difference is they used trains to commute to the city to work for the most part (sydney, melbourne, Brisbane and Cairns anyway).

    They still had cars for the most part, but they were more for the weekend and shopping.[/quote]

    and fuel cost is double US price…. Still like to see all of the options suggested implemented.

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