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February 15, 2009 at 7:14 PM #347454August 14, 2012 at 3:05 PM #750280andrius3dParticipant
I noticed the last comments posted where back in 2009. It’s now 2012 and I’m considering leaving my Merrill Lynch account and investing in EuroPacific. Has anybody had a change of heart about Peter’s strategy??????
August 15, 2012 at 8:28 AM #750305The-ShovelerParticipantAlthough I can see the Gov wanting to create higher inflation (say 6-8%) for the next ten or so years.
I can’t see this happening without higher economic activity and higher employment/Higher wages as well.
And I could see where higher interests rates could devastate current low interest long duration bond holders.In short, personally I don’t see disaster ahead unless Europe completely collapses (which could happen).
Well OK there is one other black swan sitting out there as well, that is the Iran situation, if that turns into a war then things could get bad fast.
August 15, 2012 at 10:04 AM #750308enron_by_the_seaParticipant[quote=andrius3d] I’m considering leaving my Merrill Lynch account and investing in EuroPacific.[/quote]
Has Euro pacific beat a balanced fund (e.g. VBINX) over a period of say 1-year(14.27% pa), 3-year(11.44% pa), 5-year(4.49% pa), 10-year (6.76% pa)?
August 15, 2012 at 12:02 PM #750315andrius3dParticipant[quote=enron_by_the_sea][quote=andrius3d] I’m considering leaving my Merrill Lynch account and investing in EuroPacific.[/quote]
Has Euro pacific beat a balanced fund (e.g. VBINX) over a period of say 1-year(14.27% pa), 3-year(11.44% pa), 5-year(4.49% pa), 10-year (6.76% pa)?[/quote]
Actually, I am happy with ML’s performance. That’s not the issue. I do not believe we are in another cycle but rather a transition and agree with Peter’s outlook on dollar denominated stocks. I have been following him for years and have been waiting to make the move to EuroPacific to preserve my wealth but somehow am still hesitant. Especially after spending time on Mish’s Global Economic website. Though,many of the things Mich predicted are defunct as well, i.e. Australia’s interest rates going below 2.0. Also, the people complaining about losing money with Peter may have pulled out too quickly. I recall two gentlemen complaining about a stock (SO) but had they hung tight they would have recouped their losses.
Again, I was just wondering if anyone who had doubts of Peter’s philosophy may have changed their tune because of what has transpired since 2009.
Best regards,
AndriusAugust 15, 2012 at 12:40 PM #750319enron_by_the_seaParticipant[quote=andrius3d] I have been following him for years and have been waiting to make the move to EuroPacific to preserve my wealth
[/quote]Do you know anyone whose wealth has been “preserved” by listening to Peter Schiff?
Sure he said buy gold and that seems to be working out. But he also asked to buy & sell many other things which didn’t work out.
August 15, 2012 at 4:19 PM #750347andrius3dParticipant[quote=enron_by_the_sea][quote=andrius3d] I have been following him for years and have been waiting to make the move to EuroPacific to preserve my wealth
[/quote]Do you know anyone whose wealth has been “preserved” by listening to Peter Schiff?
Sure he said buy gold and that seems to be working out. But he also asked to buy & sell many other things which didn’t work out.[/quote]
I don’t, but the BIG crash hasn’t happened yet. If there was no threat to our economy I wouldn’t even consider leaving ML, but that’s not the case. I’m just looking at the evidence out there and doing my best to guess which of the options left on the table are best. One thing I know for sure is it’s mathematically impossible to pay down the debt. There are other countries out there that are more stable that may be worth investing in. I agree that getting into the foreign market was a mistake in 2008 but someday it won’t be and I’m trying to figure out when that day is.
August 15, 2012 at 4:36 PM #750348The-ShovelerParticipantThe U.S.A. has been blessed with very unique geographical and resource rich assets that will ensure its place as a first world nation; no other nation has what The U.S.A has.
Really they need us a lot more than we need them. ( I would explain but it would take several hours talking about the Mississippi and other rivers, our food production capabilities, Deep water harbors, untapped resources.. it a very long story).So anyway good luck with that.
August 16, 2012 at 4:46 AM #750365disimilar1ParticipantI would NOT invest with them. My money was NOT preserved. It was lost big time by them.
And my broker was the managing director of their L.A. office.
After our money was lost he said he could not talk to us because he “has high blood pressure”.
Stay far, far away.August 16, 2012 at 9:29 AM #750370bearishgurlParticipant[quote=disimilar1]I would NOT invest with them. My money was NOT preserved. It was lost big time by them.
And my broker was the managing director of their L.A. office.
After our money was lost he said he could not talk to us because he “has high blood pressure”.
Stay far, far away.[/quote]Thanks for your informative post, disimilar.
August 16, 2012 at 3:55 PM #750403andrius3dParticipant[quote=disimilar1]I would NOT invest with them. My money was NOT preserved. It was lost big time by them.
And my broker was the managing director of their L.A. office.
After our money was lost he said he could not talk to us because he “has high blood pressure”.
Stay far, far away.[/quote]Ohh my. That sounds scary and I’m sorry to hear about your loss. May I ask did you go with a separately managed account or a non discretionary account? Was this just recent or back in 2008/2009? Foreign stocks or gold mining? Were you in it for the long term or were you looking for short term? Were you on autopilot with EuroPacific or were you choosing the stocks you liked?
Sorry about all the questions. You don’t have to answer if you don’t want to. I’m just real interested.
Best,
AndriusAugust 18, 2012 at 7:13 PM #750510disimilar1ParticipantI invested at the perfect time – after Sept of ’08. It was the absolute bottom of the market.
stocks, ipo’s and gold certificates.
not a well run company.
only interested in their commissions. -
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