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July 11, 2012 at 11:15 PM #747763July 11, 2012 at 11:17 PM #747765scaredyclassicParticipant
kids maybe don’t need isolation, but i do personally beleive they shoudl be steeped heavily in your own family culture, whatever that is call it brainwashing if you will.
my wife was laughing about this the other day…she is amazed at how indoctrinated they are in certain of our viewpoints.
they probably don’t even realize it . just think it’s natural.
someday they will leave us and man, theya re gonna realize how weird we are!
July 11, 2012 at 11:19 PM #747766sdrealtorParticipantOr hanging out at the Seven-11 with my 8 y/o daughter today (7/11) for an hour to see how many free Slurpees we could drink before our brains froze.
July 11, 2012 at 11:49 PM #747769scaredyclassicParticipantwell…how many?
July 11, 2012 at 11:58 PM #747770sdrealtorParticipant3 for her, 5 for me. I’m a world class Slurpee drinker. One of these days I’ll just get a machine in my house
July 12, 2012 at 3:00 PM #747852RenParticipantAnother point of view…
I was a sort of “clique diplomant” in my youth, getting along just as well with jocks as I did with punks and stoners. I still know many of these people, and in hindsight, I found that what mattered most to their success wasn’t whether they were into drugs in their youth, but how they were raised – the character their parents instilled in them, their very early education (elementary school is more important than you may think), and how involved their parents were in their lives. Some of the most successful people I know partied the hardest, and I know perpetual losers who never touched the stuff. And vice versa, of course.
As scaredy mentioned, in Riverside (including Temecula), the dirty little secret in the high schools is now heroin. In Del Mar and Encinitas, I have no doubt it’s oxy and various forms of prescription speed. You can’t escape it, but you can somewhat influence the friends your kids end up with by keeping them busy and being involved. That doesn’t necessarily mean hovering or locking them up away from the world. And they aren’t doomed if they experiment – but they are doomed if you ignore them while they experiment. I also believe that if they are surrounded by kids with like-minded parents, their chances of success are better even if drugs are more prevalent in a wealthier school.
As for dirty hippies on the street selling pot, I have a better reason for not wanting to live there than just not exposing my kids to it. I don’t personally want to see dirty hippies on the street selling pot. I like my sidewalks scum-free. If my kids want drugs, they’ll have to get them at school, not on my clean, pleasant downtown streets.
July 12, 2012 at 3:28 PM #747855sdrealtorParticipant+1
My point stated better than I was able. BTW I was very much the same in HS. 4 yr varsity sports, honor student, hung out with jock friends, stoner friends and geek friends. I am in contact with most of them and nearly all are very successful because of the values they were raised with and being surrounded by other kids with like minded parents.July 12, 2012 at 3:55 PM #747857desmondParticipantrired,
you’re better off going over to the “Dog Poop” topic, it’s a lot shorter and has less crap in it than these comments.
July 13, 2012 at 1:35 AM #747900CA renterParticipantExcellent post, Ren. You’re exactly right.
FWIW, there is heroin in Encinitas, too. Wealthier people just tend to hide things better.
July 13, 2012 at 8:07 AM #747910scaredyclassicParticipantnow I’m wondering if the resurgence of heroin is indicative of a continuing economic slump. People wanting to lie around and ignore the world…When meth comes back in force, that may be a sign of economic recovery. people want to get up and get going for long commutes, double overtime shifts…
July 13, 2012 at 7:47 PM #747969spdrunParticipantAs for dirty hippies on the street selling pot, I have a better reason for not wanting to live there than just not exposing my kids to it. I don’t personally want to see dirty hippies on the street selling pot. I like my sidewalks scum-free. If my kids want drugs, they’ll have to get them at school, not on my clean, pleasant downtown streets.
I think that’s the difference between myself and a lot of people: I like a certain amount of grit in my neighborhoods. Or at least am not bothered by the occasional skeeveball piddling under my window.
July 14, 2012 at 2:23 AM #747982CA renterParticipant[quote=spdrun]
As for dirty hippies on the street selling pot, I have a better reason for not wanting to live there than just not exposing my kids to it. I don’t personally want to see dirty hippies on the street selling pot. I like my sidewalks scum-free. If my kids want drugs, they’ll have to get them at school, not on my clean, pleasant downtown streets.
I think that’s the difference between myself and a lot of people: I like a certain amount of grit in my neighborhoods. Or at least am not bothered by the occasional skeeveball piddling under my window.[/quote]
Wait until you have kids. You will mind…a lot.
July 14, 2012 at 2:34 AM #747984spdrunParticipantDon’t f**king tell me what I’ll mind or won’t mind. You don’t know me.
And I know a lot of people who are raising kids in Northeast DC, Brooklyn, or Philly, with no plans to leave. All of those places have their “characters”, and make OB seem boring by comparison. This isn’t 1965 where you’re expected to move to suBURPia as soon as you pop a sprog.
July 14, 2012 at 2:35 AM #747985CA renterParticipantThat’s fine, spdrun. Most of us believed we knew all about child rearing before we had kids, too.
July 14, 2012 at 2:53 AM #747986spdrunParticipantI think I’ll follow the example of people whom I actually know and love (many of whom are raising kids in urban areas) rather than some random dude on the Internet when I do have kids 🙂
Though I might occasionally have a listen to a “bitter old lady” or two.
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