Moving to SD area

[spdrun]

Pot is basically available everywhere. Unadulterated pot is also essentially harmless (unless a large bale of it is dropped on someone’s head from a 5th story window).

[sdduuuude]

I don’t thing a kid is more or less likely to be run over by a car in one neighborhood vs. another, so that really isn’t a distinguishing feature of OB – that one is less likely to get run over by a car there. So your example is not relevant to the comparison at all.

Unadulterated pot may be harmless, but I wouldn’t go so far as to say it is kid-friendly.

I’d worry more about someone in the business of selling pot than the pot itself.

[spdrun]

OB has good sidewalks and has the ability to walk to interesting places (downtown, beach, etc) without 4 or 6-lane roads being involved. Those kind of areas are generally safer from a traffic perspective.

I’d say pot is kid-neutral, neither friendly nor unfriendly. Unless someone was air-dropping bales of it on a town, in which case the town has bigger problems.

Kids aren’t monks. They don’t need isolation and shelter to grow up, nor is it good for them. Seems like bearishgurl is one of the few posters here who “gets” it.

[jwizzle]

I think the whole debate here is that people are talking about different parts of OB. The areas where OB is flat (north of Coronado and west of Sunset Cliffs) – I absolutely agree that I would not raise kids there because of the things people have raised – ‘colorful’ people, the trolls, demographics, etc. I would not recommend it to someone moving here.

But, if you go further down the point – definitely any place south of Point Loma Ave. – it is an entirely different neighborhood despite technically being ‘OB.’ One with a decent number of kids, friendly neighbors, good elementary schools, and no cars cruising around trying to sell your kids pot (really, other than on Sunset Cliffs, no cars cruising around at all – we used to joke about how we knew every single person going down our street). While there haven’t been massive drops, $1- 1.5m will get you something that is pretty nice with ocean views, and possibly something with a decent sized lot.

My whole point in saying this, as someone who lived in that neighborhood for several years, is that in many places in the actual city of SD, you have to consider sub-neighborhoods in your decision on where to buy. OB/Sunset Cliffs is one of those places where, if you don’t know the neighborhood/have a good realtor, you could end up on a “bad” street (or in what my OBecian husband calls “the war zone”). The upside to CV, La Costa, etc (and what makes it easy to generally characterize these as “good” neighborhoods), is that you don’t have to worry about “bad streets” so much because it is tract based. But I wouldn’t rule out a nice neighborhood based on the fact that the general city has a bad rep.

[spdrun]

Didn’t the War Zone nickname stem from a war between bikie gangs in the 60s? i.e. something that’s been long forgotten.

[jwizzle]

[quote=spdrun]Didn’t the War Zone nickname stem from a war between bikie gangs in the 60s? i.e. something that’s been long forgotten.[/quote]

It went through the 80’s. It’s probably been long forgotten by most, but my husband and all his friends who grew up in the neighborhood still call it that, mostly jokingly/for ease of reference to distinguish the neighborhoods.

[sdrealtor]

[quote=spdrun]OB has good sidewalks and has the ability to walk to interesting places (downtown, beach, etc) without 4 or 6-lane roads being involved. Those kind of areas are generally safer from a traffic perspective.

I’d say pot is kid-neutral, neither friendly nor unfriendly. Unless someone was air-dropping bales of it on a town, in which case the town has bigger problems.

Kids aren’t monks. They don’t need isolation and shelter to grow up, nor is it good for them. Seems like bearishgurl is one of the few posters here who “gets” it.[/quote]

For reasons beyond what I’ll get into I’d say pot is far from kid-neutral. Kids dont need isolation or shelter but they thrive under safe healthy conditions and a positive environment moreso than not. A single 32 year old male from NY with a disdain for authority and no life experience in parenting is not a relaible source of information nor is a bitter old lady in the south bay. You can have each other as you both “get” it.

[sdduuuude]

[quote=spdrun]I’d say pot is kid-neutral[/quote]

Quote of the year candidate right there !

[spdrun]

For reasons beyond what I’ll get into I’d say pot is far from kid-neutral. Kids dont need isolation or shelter but they thrive under safe healthy conditions and a positive environment moreso than not. A single 32 year old male from NY with a disdain for authority and no life experience in parenting is not a relaible source of information nor is a bitter old lady in the south bay. You can have each other as you both “get” it.

Fine.

Let me say this: the only difference between OB and the rest of the world is that the purveyors of said herb are slightly more visible. Regardless of where they live, if the kids are going to a school with other rich kids, trust me: weed and much, much, worse will be available to them. It’s not a question of kids finding a dealer. It’s a question of dealers smelling money and coming to the kids.

And it’s funny. I believe the “bitter old lady” had a kid or two in her day. How many do you have?!

[sdrealtor]

sp
Trying to enlighten me on distribution of said herb is like a first grader trying to lecture a Harvard law professor on the consitution.

The bitter old lady knows plenty about raising kids in a working class community and nothing about doing so in an upper middle class white collar community.

hasta

[DaCounselor]

“For reasons beyond what I’ll get into I’d say pot is far from kid-neutral. Kids dont need isolation or shelter but they thrive under safe healthy conditions and a positive environment moreso than not. A single 32 year old male from NY with a disdain for authority and no life experience in parenting is not a relaible source of information nor is a bitter old lady in the south bay. You can have each other as you both “get” it.”
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You have got to be kidding me, I thought the spdrun guy was raising a family in OB and walkin’ the walk. Oops.

OB is a great family neighborhood, pot is kid-neutral, this guy should write a book. Classic!

[bearishgurl]

[quote=spdrun]OB has good sidewalks and has the ability to walk to interesting places (downtown, beach, etc) without 4 or 6-lane roads being involved. Those kind of areas are generally safer from a traffic perspective.

I’d say pot is kid-neutral, neither friendly nor unfriendly. Unless someone was air-dropping bales of it on a town, in which case the town has bigger problems.

Kids aren’t monks. They don’t need isolation and shelter to grow up, nor is it good for them. Seems like bearishgurl is one of the few posters here who “gets” it.[/quote]

LOL! I just dropped two 16 year-olds at the curbside (my kid and a friend) at the airport to fly to SF for a week. They’ll be staying in Portrero and taking public transportation to shop. They can lunch at the local delis which are walking distance to the house they’re staying in. They’re free to shop at Union Square and hang out in nearby SOMA while the relatives work.

If their parents had raised them in Lizardland behind a gated community, micromanaged their classrooms (as much as they could get away with, lol) and vetted are their friends and acquaintances all of their lives, these kids wouldn’t even know how to conduct themselves on such a trip! My own remaining kid has been flying to SF by themselves since they were 11.

I think we discussed here recently that your kid may end up in Beserkely (spdrun’s reference :)) or other similarly-situated public college campus and witness a fellow student in the dorms or apartments looking at porn on their laptop (heaven forbid)! If they don’t know anything about it because they have been “sheltered” all of their lives by “helicopter parents,” how are they going to react to this??

You are NOT doing your kids any favors by making sure they always have a plain vanilla, generic life in cookie-cutter land, IMHO. The world that they’ll have to make a living in is nothing like that. They may as well learn this fact of life early on.

[spdrun]

DaCounselor —
Please cite a study which proves that kids from comparable areas where pot is more easily available turn out worse — say, less education, or more likely to commit crimes as adults. Or is this all knee-jerking in response to “people who look different” than your average desk jockey.

BearishGurl –
I don’t think I was quite that adventurous when I was 16, though I did study in Poland the semester after high school. Eventually ended up traveling to Budapest and Prague with a friend and later alone.

Also had a job with the local engineering company as a Unix/mail admin, gofer, and occasional troubleshooter of HVAC controls when I was 17!

[bearishgurl]

The cookie-cutter-tract and lizardland advocates on here are forgetting some minor details.

Pot and other drugs are EVERYWHERE … yes even in Gridlocked Nirvana and that, ahem, “highly rated” Poway Unified School District (PUSD). Why don’t you ask current students in these areas if they have ever been offered pot or other drugs at school??

There is actually MORE drugs flowing in schools where the students carry $20-$50 or more on them every day. Why? Because they can easily be sold!!

In many of the schools where the bulk of the students are from lower-socioeconomic backgrounds, it is unprofitable to waste time selling drugs as the students don’t have the money to buy them. These students VERY often own only three uniforms, a backpack, a few school supplies and a “free lunch” card :=]

[bearishgurl]

[quote=sdrealtor]…The bitter old lady knows plenty about raising kids in a working class community and nothing about doing so in an upper middle class white collar community…[/quote]

Our resident Daily Lush/”Realtor” residing in Gridlocked Nirvana obviously knows nothing about the “demographics” of “south bay” and/or whether or not my kids were raised in an “upper middle class white collar community…” (hint: they actually were and are). He thinks everyone who resides in “south bay” is “working class.” Nothing could be further from the truth.

This is a rather ignorant statement coming from an actual “Realtor.”

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