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December 30, 2007 at 10:43 PM #126884December 30, 2007 at 11:31 PM #126643blew_itParticipant
Agreed. Even if there is not a mandatory 20% down, the tighter lending standards should have a similar effect for a while. Until 10 years from now when the cycle starts over again (picture dawn-of-the-dead zombies chanting “everyone wants to live here…there’s a housing shortage…must not get priced out of the market…”).
Anyway, this makes me wonder: what about the PMI that is required when less than 20% is put down on a place? In the past, it seemed like bull$h|+ that the buyer had to pay the lender’s premium on insurance which insured the lender against default. Given recent history, this was appropriate. I think a lot of people avoided PMI by purchasing 80/10/10 loans, but does anyone know if there has been a deluge of PMI claims by lenders now? I would think so but haven’t read anything about this.
December 30, 2007 at 11:31 PM #126801blew_itParticipantAgreed. Even if there is not a mandatory 20% down, the tighter lending standards should have a similar effect for a while. Until 10 years from now when the cycle starts over again (picture dawn-of-the-dead zombies chanting “everyone wants to live here…there’s a housing shortage…must not get priced out of the market…”).
Anyway, this makes me wonder: what about the PMI that is required when less than 20% is put down on a place? In the past, it seemed like bull$h|+ that the buyer had to pay the lender’s premium on insurance which insured the lender against default. Given recent history, this was appropriate. I think a lot of people avoided PMI by purchasing 80/10/10 loans, but does anyone know if there has been a deluge of PMI claims by lenders now? I would think so but haven’t read anything about this.
December 30, 2007 at 11:31 PM #126813blew_itParticipantAgreed. Even if there is not a mandatory 20% down, the tighter lending standards should have a similar effect for a while. Until 10 years from now when the cycle starts over again (picture dawn-of-the-dead zombies chanting “everyone wants to live here…there’s a housing shortage…must not get priced out of the market…”).
Anyway, this makes me wonder: what about the PMI that is required when less than 20% is put down on a place? In the past, it seemed like bull$h|+ that the buyer had to pay the lender’s premium on insurance which insured the lender against default. Given recent history, this was appropriate. I think a lot of people avoided PMI by purchasing 80/10/10 loans, but does anyone know if there has been a deluge of PMI claims by lenders now? I would think so but haven’t read anything about this.
December 30, 2007 at 11:31 PM #126880blew_itParticipantAgreed. Even if there is not a mandatory 20% down, the tighter lending standards should have a similar effect for a while. Until 10 years from now when the cycle starts over again (picture dawn-of-the-dead zombies chanting “everyone wants to live here…there’s a housing shortage…must not get priced out of the market…”).
Anyway, this makes me wonder: what about the PMI that is required when less than 20% is put down on a place? In the past, it seemed like bull$h|+ that the buyer had to pay the lender’s premium on insurance which insured the lender against default. Given recent history, this was appropriate. I think a lot of people avoided PMI by purchasing 80/10/10 loans, but does anyone know if there has been a deluge of PMI claims by lenders now? I would think so but haven’t read anything about this.
December 30, 2007 at 11:31 PM #126904blew_itParticipantAgreed. Even if there is not a mandatory 20% down, the tighter lending standards should have a similar effect for a while. Until 10 years from now when the cycle starts over again (picture dawn-of-the-dead zombies chanting “everyone wants to live here…there’s a housing shortage…must not get priced out of the market…”).
Anyway, this makes me wonder: what about the PMI that is required when less than 20% is put down on a place? In the past, it seemed like bull$h|+ that the buyer had to pay the lender’s premium on insurance which insured the lender against default. Given recent history, this was appropriate. I think a lot of people avoided PMI by purchasing 80/10/10 loans, but does anyone know if there has been a deluge of PMI claims by lenders now? I would think so but haven’t read anything about this.
December 31, 2007 at 8:14 AM #126712Nancy_s soothsayerParticipantGiven the current trend when almost everyone is trying to scam each other and justice is enforcement much delayed or none, in about 5 to 10 years, America will operate the housing business much like in a third world country – cash buyers only will be entertained or buyers will have to pay huge interest rates (usury to the hilt.)
December 31, 2007 at 8:14 AM #126871Nancy_s soothsayerParticipantGiven the current trend when almost everyone is trying to scam each other and justice is enforcement much delayed or none, in about 5 to 10 years, America will operate the housing business much like in a third world country – cash buyers only will be entertained or buyers will have to pay huge interest rates (usury to the hilt.)
December 31, 2007 at 8:14 AM #126882Nancy_s soothsayerParticipantGiven the current trend when almost everyone is trying to scam each other and justice is enforcement much delayed or none, in about 5 to 10 years, America will operate the housing business much like in a third world country – cash buyers only will be entertained or buyers will have to pay huge interest rates (usury to the hilt.)
December 31, 2007 at 8:14 AM #126950Nancy_s soothsayerParticipantGiven the current trend when almost everyone is trying to scam each other and justice is enforcement much delayed or none, in about 5 to 10 years, America will operate the housing business much like in a third world country – cash buyers only will be entertained or buyers will have to pay huge interest rates (usury to the hilt.)
December 31, 2007 at 8:14 AM #126974Nancy_s soothsayerParticipantGiven the current trend when almost everyone is trying to scam each other and justice is enforcement much delayed or none, in about 5 to 10 years, America will operate the housing business much like in a third world country – cash buyers only will be entertained or buyers will have to pay huge interest rates (usury to the hilt.)
December 31, 2007 at 8:33 AM #126722sdrealtorParticipantAnd those of us with 30 yr fixed loans in the mid-5 ‘s or lower will sleep sweet dreams for the next coupla decades.
December 31, 2007 at 8:33 AM #126883sdrealtorParticipantAnd those of us with 30 yr fixed loans in the mid-5 ‘s or lower will sleep sweet dreams for the next coupla decades.
December 31, 2007 at 8:33 AM #126892sdrealtorParticipantAnd those of us with 30 yr fixed loans in the mid-5 ‘s or lower will sleep sweet dreams for the next coupla decades.
December 31, 2007 at 8:33 AM #126960sdrealtorParticipantAnd those of us with 30 yr fixed loans in the mid-5 ‘s or lower will sleep sweet dreams for the next coupla decades.
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