More on the Temecula/Murrieta mass flop

[JJsqueeze]

This tiny little mind knows it’s limitations and when it makes mistakes, tends to look for it’s part in them so they won’t be repeated. It also recognizes that it ALWAYS takes two to tango and while a murder or rape victim has no say in their crime. A victim of a con typically does. Blame the universe, blame everyone but yourself, then you can rest assured that years from now you will be angrily bitter over someone else taking advantage of you because you didn’t learn your lesson. It’s the same victim mentality that I see people use in jobs or relationships they are unhappy in. It’s always someone else’s fault.

Like I said, I wish you well, I hope you get your money back, I hope the crooks get what they deserve, I also hope you learned a lesson.

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[PD]

CbC, you may have been conned but I think you were probably also complicit. I don’t know of any child support payments that are crushing compared to the earning power of the person paying. Further, the “greedy ex-wife” is probably spending more every month on the kids than she is receiving. From your “my s@$t don’t stink” tone, I bet you are a step-monster. I’ve seen quite a few doozies. Finally, some of the most crooked people I have ever met cloaked their greed under a mantle of religion and were pastors.

[PD]

CbC, you may have been conned but I think you were probably also complicit. I don’t know of any child support payments that are crushing compared to the earning power of the person paying. Further, the “greedy ex-wife” is probably spending more every month on the kids than she is receiving. From your “my s@$t don’t stink” tone, I bet you are a step-monster. I’ve seen quite a few doozies. Finally, some of the most crooked people I have ever met cloaked their greed under a mantle of religion and were pastors.

[Anonymous]

oh, I learned a lesson alright<---but WHY would you care whether I do or not? What's it to you? No one is to be trusted. No one. Future investments will only be w/ large well-known firms. Did I say trust no man? especially someone in RE.

[Anonymous]

oh, I learned a lesson alright<---but WHY would you care whether I do or not? What's it to you? No one is to be trusted. No one. Future investments will only be w/ large well-known firms. Did I say trust no man? especially someone in RE.

[no_such_reality]

We want you to see what we see.

A multi-BILLION dollar fraud setup in the pursuit of greed that will wreck and has wrecked the community for thousands for years to come.

On one hand, we have a pied piper allegedly leading the charge with hundreds of “investors” for the fleecing in a very complicated and very slow real estate deals that involves many verifications along the way.

On the other, “victims” claiming the pied piper and his conspiracy did this fraud ring, and did it to hundreds bilking untold millions.

The catch? If the victims aren’t victims, they’re participants in multi-million dollar cases of mortgage fraud themselves. Do you really wonder why the rest of us cast a jaundiced eye on those claiming to be scammed?

If they’ve forged your signatures through all the purchases, you’ve been wronged. Maybe we’ll be wrong in the end, and it is a grand conspiracy forging signatures and involving dozens in a criminal enterprise bilking innocents.

Or as my gut tells me, maybe at best, the naive investors are negligent to the point of criminally aiding and abetting in the pursuit easy profits and at worse, active participants in committing serial mortgage fraud wrecking the American dream for tens of thousands of Southern Californians.

[no_such_reality]

We want you to see what we see.

A multi-BILLION dollar fraud setup in the pursuit of greed that will wreck and has wrecked the community for thousands for years to come.

On one hand, we have a pied piper allegedly leading the charge with hundreds of “investors” for the fleecing in a very complicated and very slow real estate deals that involves many verifications along the way.

On the other, “victims” claiming the pied piper and his conspiracy did this fraud ring, and did it to hundreds bilking untold millions.

The catch? If the victims aren’t victims, they’re participants in multi-million dollar cases of mortgage fraud themselves. Do you really wonder why the rest of us cast a jaundiced eye on those claiming to be scammed?

If they’ve forged your signatures through all the purchases, you’ve been wronged. Maybe we’ll be wrong in the end, and it is a grand conspiracy forging signatures and involving dozens in a criminal enterprise bilking innocents.

Or as my gut tells me, maybe at best, the naive investors are negligent to the point of criminally aiding and abetting in the pursuit easy profits and at worse, active participants in committing serial mortgage fraud wrecking the American dream for tens of thousands of Southern Californians.

[Anonymous]

PD
Ooohhh getting out the bigger sticks are we???
Clueless….feel pretty high and mighty don’t you?

Actually I am both…a Step-mother And a mother. The ex-wife spends the huge payments in Vegas every other w/e.
Not on the child. So there.

You go ahead and believe your little ‘alternate universe’.

yawn….you bore me as your comments reflect your narrow-mindedness. Bet you pay CS too don’t ya?

[Anonymous]

PD
Ooohhh getting out the bigger sticks are we???
Clueless….feel pretty high and mighty don’t you?

Actually I am both…a Step-mother And a mother. The ex-wife spends the huge payments in Vegas every other w/e.
Not on the child. So there.

You go ahead and believe your little ‘alternate universe’.

yawn….you bore me as your comments reflect your narrow-mindedness. Bet you pay CS too don’t ya?

[FormerOwner]

It looks like the courts will have to decide who is guilty of what crimes and who owes what money to whom, etc. The role of the investors seems in question but there doesn’t seem to be much question about the role of the ringleaders at all. I wonder if this is the largest real estate scam in history? I’ve never heard of anything on this scale before. Has anyone else? How could the ringleaders think they could get away with it? Aren’t they afraid of getting capped?

[FormerOwner]

It looks like the courts will have to decide who is guilty of what crimes and who owes what money to whom, etc. The role of the investors seems in question but there doesn’t seem to be much question about the role of the ringleaders at all. I wonder if this is the largest real estate scam in history? I’ve never heard of anything on this scale before. Has anyone else? How could the ringleaders think they could get away with it? Aren’t they afraid of getting capped?

[Anonymous]

And you would honestly believe that all of us victims would have willingly, knowingly done that?

We assert that we believed we were dealing in legitimate real estate transactions.

It may be very difficult for a seasoned RE expert to fall for it, but in the end the truth will come out and you will be surprised at how extensive this fraud is.

It is our belief that This IS the largest mortgage fraud in history.

Stay-tuned.

[Anonymous]

And you would honestly believe that all of us victims would have willingly, knowingly done that?

We assert that we believed we were dealing in legitimate real estate transactions.

It may be very difficult for a seasoned RE expert to fall for it, but in the end the truth will come out and you will be surprised at how extensive this fraud is.

It is our belief that This IS the largest mortgage fraud in history.

Stay-tuned.

[davelj]

CbC, I suspect that most people here believe that you were ripped off to large degree, probably with a great deal of help from fraudulent activities. What people have a hard time swallowing, however, is that you have NO blame whatsoever in this situation. I’m with PD here; you probably had some degree of complicity – however small – in what happened here. And the reason is that you were greedy, plain and simple. That’s not to say that you and your co-plaintiffs deserved your fate, but were it not for such greed you wouldn’t be in this mess. Had you read all of the documents involved, done background checks on everyone involved – basically had you done proper due diligence – it’s unlikely you’d be in this mess. I wish you the best of luck – you were conned. But had greed, naivete, and – let’s say it – some degree of ignorance, not reared their ugly heads all at the same time you wouldn’t be posting here.

One question I’ve got, though, is where God was during this whole thing. This whole mess was His will, right? So, as a Christian, you should have nothing to worry about, right? Also, instead of pursuing these con men shouldn’t you just turn the other cheek and forgive them? Pope John Paul forgave that guy that shot him after all. What about that whole “to err is human, to forgive divine” thing? I guess I’m just having a hard time grasping the Christian angle in this situation.

[davelj]

CbC, I suspect that most people here believe that you were ripped off to large degree, probably with a great deal of help from fraudulent activities. What people have a hard time swallowing, however, is that you have NO blame whatsoever in this situation. I’m with PD here; you probably had some degree of complicity – however small – in what happened here. And the reason is that you were greedy, plain and simple. That’s not to say that you and your co-plaintiffs deserved your fate, but were it not for such greed you wouldn’t be in this mess. Had you read all of the documents involved, done background checks on everyone involved – basically had you done proper due diligence – it’s unlikely you’d be in this mess. I wish you the best of luck – you were conned. But had greed, naivete, and – let’s say it – some degree of ignorance, not reared their ugly heads all at the same time you wouldn’t be posting here.

One question I’ve got, though, is where God was during this whole thing. This whole mess was His will, right? So, as a Christian, you should have nothing to worry about, right? Also, instead of pursuing these con men shouldn’t you just turn the other cheek and forgive them? Pope John Paul forgave that guy that shot him after all. What about that whole “to err is human, to forgive divine” thing? I guess I’m just having a hard time grasping the Christian angle in this situation.

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