MMoore movie SiCKO

[lostkitty]

Turned out the movie was showing semi-nearby.
Saw it yesterday, and I am still so saddened by it. Heartbroken really, that our contry has become what it has.
Everyone should see it – regardless of party affiliation. Don’t be afraid to face the ideas you hold dearly. If your ideas are solid, then you’ll leave feeling the same as when you went in the theater. Or you may see things suddenly from a different perspective… who knows. There is always room to grow and change with new information. Please see it. It is about the most basic of needs a country should provide for it’s citizens – healthcare – so the people can work.

My kids have had some health issues themselves, and at the same time that my husband’s job (Delta Airlines) was deeply cutting pilot pay, they were also continually changing the health benefits and insurance companies. New cards every year from a new company… We were increasingly drowning in co-pays, medicine costs, but what is one to do when your child has pneumonia, a broken arm, a head injury? The insurance company tried their damndest to find a way to not pay that broken arm bill. Where exactly did it happen, could it have been prevented, was in on the property of someone they could go after instead? The questions we had to answer, and then answer again!!! The financial relief when he dumped that Delta job and went to a small company was tremendous just in healthcare alone.

The stories of people who worked hard their whole lives, only to be buried by healthcare debt are compelling in this movie… Good hard-working people, not the bottom-dwellers of society.

A note for jg… if you see it, which I please please please hope you do, look closely at which people have bad teeth… It is all the Americans that have the nasty teeth and fat asses! It is the Americans who are waiting at the hospitals for hours. it is the Americans who are angry and frustrated, stressed to the max. It is the Americans who are in despair over their lack of medical care.

MM interviews conservatives from other countries who while fiscally conservative, absolutely believe that healthcare is independent of the market economy … it is essential.

We now have excellent coverage. can go anywhere we like without referrals, etc. STILL, I am endlessly having to call up the insurance company because they are all f’d up. They all are… the errors in billing are a constant. They must be corrected to protect our credit, and it is many times a year that i end up on the phone setting things straight.

See it, so we can have an intelligent discussion here. Just saying “I wont see it because MM is fat” is a pathetic excuse for an apathetic citizen. I personally love America, and I want better for all of us, not just for ME.

[salo_t]

I saw it and like others have posted already it is an eye opener. I have had several bad experiences with HMO’s myself so I have no love for what they are all about and I’m ready to do what ever I can to help change the current system. This is an issue that can benefit all Americans so don’t be a tool and buy into the “left wing” “right wing” propaganda.

[salo_t]

I saw it and like others have posted already it is an eye opener. I have had several bad experiences with HMO’s myself so I have no love for what they are all about and I’m ready to do what ever I can to help change the current system. This is an issue that can benefit all Americans so don’t be a tool and buy into the “left wing” “right wing” propaganda.

[citydweller]

I have not yet seen the movie, but I plan to. It is my belief that the biggest problem with American health care is that so much money is spent on treating symptoms, but so little is spent on treating causes. This subject was touched on in the movie “Supersize me”.
Nutrition is such a huge part of good health, and so few doctors push this agenda, all they do is prescribe pills to address the symptoms caused by poor nutrition.
The human body is a miraculous organism that has the ability to heal and regenerate, if only it is given the proper tools. Without proper nutrition the immune system is compromised and not able to fend off disease.

[citydweller]

I have not yet seen the movie, but I plan to. It is my belief that the biggest problem with American health care is that so much money is spent on treating symptoms, but so little is spent on treating causes. This subject was touched on in the movie “Supersize me”.
Nutrition is such a huge part of good health, and so few doctors push this agenda, all they do is prescribe pills to address the symptoms caused by poor nutrition.
The human body is a miraculous organism that has the ability to heal and regenerate, if only it is given the proper tools. Without proper nutrition the immune system is compromised and not able to fend off disease.

[SDowner]

It is not always the doctors and medical professional. I would say it is more due to the tort culture, which targets this group easily.

Sometimes you can see them struggling to say the right words to a patient, when all that patient needs are some hard, harsh words of direction in their life.

[SDowner]

It is not always the doctors and medical professional. I would say it is more due to the tort culture, which targets this group easily.

Sometimes you can see them struggling to say the right words to a patient, when all that patient needs are some hard, harsh words of direction in their life.

[blahblahblah]

It is not always the doctors and medical professional. I would say it is more due to the tort culture, which targets this group easily.

Clearly trial laywers like the evil and immoral JOHN EDWARDS are to blame. Also, fat and lazy Americans are to blame for not taking care of themselves. I would also add to the list MISTER SMARTY-PANTSES like AL GORE. He is also FAT like the COMMUNIST MICHAEL MOORE. Ha ha. FATTIES.

[blahblahblah]

It is not always the doctors and medical professional. I would say it is more due to the tort culture, which targets this group easily.

Clearly trial laywers like the evil and immoral JOHN EDWARDS are to blame. Also, fat and lazy Americans are to blame for not taking care of themselves. I would also add to the list MISTER SMARTY-PANTSES like AL GORE. He is also FAT like the COMMUNIST MICHAEL MOORE. Ha ha. FATTIES.

[capeman]

It is my belief that the biggest problem with American health care is that so much money is spent on treating symptoms, but so little is spent on treating causes. This subject was touched on in the movie "Supersize me".

You are right on with that one! I've been on both ends of the argument. I've been heavily involved on R&D for the next gen of Type II Diabetes TREATMENTS that are starting to hit the market. They are spectacular drugs that I am very proud of as they will improve the QOL for 10s of millions of people. Fact of the matter is that with proper diet and exercise you could CURE ~90% or greater Type II patients thereby saving the medical system upwards of 100bil per year on everything associated with treatment of the disease. The real figures are probably much higher than that.

From the other end I was on my way to getting Type II myself and already had elevated cholesterol and was overweight by about 40 lbs. By hitting a medical supported and very straighforward diet not even including exercise my cholesterol was down to well into normal levels with no trace of being on my way to Type II within a month. On top of that I was down 25lbs in a month and a half. It is a very easy thing to make yourself healthier and therefore not as dependent on the system if you want to make it happen. The thing is that doctors don't tell you about that kind of cure as they tend to not get the kind of kickbacks from the diet company that they do from the Pharmas. They also know that most people don't want to hear that they are unhealthy and don't really want to change the status quo. Those people end up reliant on the system and drain the system for those who have to pay the high premiums and never use it because they are healthy. I would say with high confidence that if it was only the government forking out the >100bil a year they would drastically change the healthcare and education system to prevent those type of escalating losses. That is a win-win.

 

cheers,

chris

[capeman]

It is my belief that the biggest problem with American health care is that so much money is spent on treating symptoms, but so little is spent on treating causes. This subject was touched on in the movie "Supersize me".

You are right on with that one! I've been on both ends of the argument. I've been heavily involved on R&D for the next gen of Type II Diabetes TREATMENTS that are starting to hit the market. They are spectacular drugs that I am very proud of as they will improve the QOL for 10s of millions of people. Fact of the matter is that with proper diet and exercise you could CURE ~90% or greater Type II patients thereby saving the medical system upwards of 100bil per year on everything associated with treatment of the disease. The real figures are probably much higher than that.

From the other end I was on my way to getting Type II myself and already had elevated cholesterol and was overweight by about 40 lbs. By hitting a medical supported and very straighforward diet not even including exercise my cholesterol was down to well into normal levels with no trace of being on my way to Type II within a month. On top of that I was down 25lbs in a month and a half. It is a very easy thing to make yourself healthier and therefore not as dependent on the system if you want to make it happen. The thing is that doctors don't tell you about that kind of cure as they tend to not get the kind of kickbacks from the diet company that they do from the Pharmas. They also know that most people don't want to hear that they are unhealthy and don't really want to change the status quo. Those people end up reliant on the system and drain the system for those who have to pay the high premiums and never use it because they are healthy. I would say with high confidence that if it was only the government forking out the >100bil a year they would drastically change the healthcare and education system to prevent those type of escalating losses. That is a win-win.

 

cheers,

chris

[NotCranky]

Good point City Dweller. It also seems the the physcological part of physcosomatic illness is swept away. Half these syndromes are very questionable/over done complete with disability payments, I am not going to name any because I don’t want to get flamed for a few posts.

[NotCranky]

Good point City Dweller. It also seems the the physcological part of physcosomatic illness is swept away. Half these syndromes are very questionable/over done complete with disability payments, I am not going to name any because I don’t want to get flamed for a few posts.

[citydweller]

Capeman,
Congratulations, I love hearing success stories like that. It would be nice if more doctors encouraged their patients to reverse their diseases through nutrition, instead of just handing out pills. I’m sure many doctors are frustrated by the fact that most people are just too lazy to take the steps needed to improve their diet. They want the quick fix.

I personally am not as healthy as I know I could be. I love donuts, chips (especially pringles), big juicy hamburgers, but I try to keep those things to a minimum, and I make sure my daily diet also consists of fresh organic fruits and vegetables, plenty of fiber, and a tblspoon of flaxseed oil each day.

When I preach my nutritional beliefs to friends I try to make them understand that it’s not so much what you eat as what you don’t eat. The first step to increasing health can be to just make an effort to add good things to your diet, and worry less about reducing the bad things. Give your body a fighting chance to offset the damage caused by the bad stuff.

[citydweller]

Capeman,
Congratulations, I love hearing success stories like that. It would be nice if more doctors encouraged their patients to reverse their diseases through nutrition, instead of just handing out pills. I’m sure many doctors are frustrated by the fact that most people are just too lazy to take the steps needed to improve their diet. They want the quick fix.

I personally am not as healthy as I know I could be. I love donuts, chips (especially pringles), big juicy hamburgers, but I try to keep those things to a minimum, and I make sure my daily diet also consists of fresh organic fruits and vegetables, plenty of fiber, and a tblspoon of flaxseed oil each day.

When I preach my nutritional beliefs to friends I try to make them understand that it’s not so much what you eat as what you don’t eat. The first step to increasing health can be to just make an effort to add good things to your diet, and worry less about reducing the bad things. Give your body a fighting chance to offset the damage caused by the bad stuff.

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