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February 4, 2008 at 7:18 PM #148465February 4, 2008 at 7:26 PM #148125Allan from FallbrookParticipant
raptor: My dad took me to Palo Alto Research Center a couple of times, back in the mid-1970s. It was an amazing place, and what is even more amazing is the sheer amount of genius that Xerox threw away. I’m sure you know this, but the mouse, ethernet networking, and dozens of other innovations were either discarded, or sold cheap to competitors, because Xerox couldn’t use them in their xerographic business. Stunning when you think about it.
Speaking of ancient history, and the old guard “dinosaur” mentality: A good friend of my dad’s was an engineer with Amdahl, the mainframe maker. He opined at a BBQ (circa 1981) that the PC would never take off, and true computing power would always be held by the “big iron” (mainframes). Whoops.
My dad offered to cut me a deal on the Los Altos place, but my wife at the time didn’t want to move to the Bay Area, and didn’t really get along with my parents. So, I hear ya. Woulda, coulda, shoulda.
February 4, 2008 at 7:26 PM #148376Allan from FallbrookParticipantraptor: My dad took me to Palo Alto Research Center a couple of times, back in the mid-1970s. It was an amazing place, and what is even more amazing is the sheer amount of genius that Xerox threw away. I’m sure you know this, but the mouse, ethernet networking, and dozens of other innovations were either discarded, or sold cheap to competitors, because Xerox couldn’t use them in their xerographic business. Stunning when you think about it.
Speaking of ancient history, and the old guard “dinosaur” mentality: A good friend of my dad’s was an engineer with Amdahl, the mainframe maker. He opined at a BBQ (circa 1981) that the PC would never take off, and true computing power would always be held by the “big iron” (mainframes). Whoops.
My dad offered to cut me a deal on the Los Altos place, but my wife at the time didn’t want to move to the Bay Area, and didn’t really get along with my parents. So, I hear ya. Woulda, coulda, shoulda.
February 4, 2008 at 7:26 PM #148394Allan from FallbrookParticipantraptor: My dad took me to Palo Alto Research Center a couple of times, back in the mid-1970s. It was an amazing place, and what is even more amazing is the sheer amount of genius that Xerox threw away. I’m sure you know this, but the mouse, ethernet networking, and dozens of other innovations were either discarded, or sold cheap to competitors, because Xerox couldn’t use them in their xerographic business. Stunning when you think about it.
Speaking of ancient history, and the old guard “dinosaur” mentality: A good friend of my dad’s was an engineer with Amdahl, the mainframe maker. He opined at a BBQ (circa 1981) that the PC would never take off, and true computing power would always be held by the “big iron” (mainframes). Whoops.
My dad offered to cut me a deal on the Los Altos place, but my wife at the time didn’t want to move to the Bay Area, and didn’t really get along with my parents. So, I hear ya. Woulda, coulda, shoulda.
February 4, 2008 at 7:26 PM #148407Allan from FallbrookParticipantraptor: My dad took me to Palo Alto Research Center a couple of times, back in the mid-1970s. It was an amazing place, and what is even more amazing is the sheer amount of genius that Xerox threw away. I’m sure you know this, but the mouse, ethernet networking, and dozens of other innovations were either discarded, or sold cheap to competitors, because Xerox couldn’t use them in their xerographic business. Stunning when you think about it.
Speaking of ancient history, and the old guard “dinosaur” mentality: A good friend of my dad’s was an engineer with Amdahl, the mainframe maker. He opined at a BBQ (circa 1981) that the PC would never take off, and true computing power would always be held by the “big iron” (mainframes). Whoops.
My dad offered to cut me a deal on the Los Altos place, but my wife at the time didn’t want to move to the Bay Area, and didn’t really get along with my parents. So, I hear ya. Woulda, coulda, shoulda.
February 4, 2008 at 7:26 PM #148474Allan from FallbrookParticipantraptor: My dad took me to Palo Alto Research Center a couple of times, back in the mid-1970s. It was an amazing place, and what is even more amazing is the sheer amount of genius that Xerox threw away. I’m sure you know this, but the mouse, ethernet networking, and dozens of other innovations were either discarded, or sold cheap to competitors, because Xerox couldn’t use them in their xerographic business. Stunning when you think about it.
Speaking of ancient history, and the old guard “dinosaur” mentality: A good friend of my dad’s was an engineer with Amdahl, the mainframe maker. He opined at a BBQ (circa 1981) that the PC would never take off, and true computing power would always be held by the “big iron” (mainframes). Whoops.
My dad offered to cut me a deal on the Los Altos place, but my wife at the time didn’t want to move to the Bay Area, and didn’t really get along with my parents. So, I hear ya. Woulda, coulda, shoulda.
February 5, 2008 at 9:48 AM #148276DukehornParticipantThe amount of wealth generation in Silicon Valley (and with telecomm in San Diego) is pretty amazing. The problem with a google or yahoo is that the Really Smart people have really no incentive to stay if they strike it rich. They then have the money and security to move on to a new start-up. The number of old-school googlers that have started new companies is pretty high (just as it was for yahoo). I guess it’s how we, as a country, stay on top of innovation but it makes a company like Yahoo (only 14 years old) appear like a dinosaur.
Of course, folks that move to SD or SF from Texas or North Carolina have a bit of a problem trying to jump into the market versus the option money :(.
It’s amazing how Xerox could have retained its relevance in the tech world if it just was able to assess its own technology–course, we might not have an Apple today.
February 5, 2008 at 9:48 AM #148526DukehornParticipantThe amount of wealth generation in Silicon Valley (and with telecomm in San Diego) is pretty amazing. The problem with a google or yahoo is that the Really Smart people have really no incentive to stay if they strike it rich. They then have the money and security to move on to a new start-up. The number of old-school googlers that have started new companies is pretty high (just as it was for yahoo). I guess it’s how we, as a country, stay on top of innovation but it makes a company like Yahoo (only 14 years old) appear like a dinosaur.
Of course, folks that move to SD or SF from Texas or North Carolina have a bit of a problem trying to jump into the market versus the option money :(.
It’s amazing how Xerox could have retained its relevance in the tech world if it just was able to assess its own technology–course, we might not have an Apple today.
February 5, 2008 at 9:48 AM #148544DukehornParticipantThe amount of wealth generation in Silicon Valley (and with telecomm in San Diego) is pretty amazing. The problem with a google or yahoo is that the Really Smart people have really no incentive to stay if they strike it rich. They then have the money and security to move on to a new start-up. The number of old-school googlers that have started new companies is pretty high (just as it was for yahoo). I guess it’s how we, as a country, stay on top of innovation but it makes a company like Yahoo (only 14 years old) appear like a dinosaur.
Of course, folks that move to SD or SF from Texas or North Carolina have a bit of a problem trying to jump into the market versus the option money :(.
It’s amazing how Xerox could have retained its relevance in the tech world if it just was able to assess its own technology–course, we might not have an Apple today.
February 5, 2008 at 9:48 AM #148557DukehornParticipantThe amount of wealth generation in Silicon Valley (and with telecomm in San Diego) is pretty amazing. The problem with a google or yahoo is that the Really Smart people have really no incentive to stay if they strike it rich. They then have the money and security to move on to a new start-up. The number of old-school googlers that have started new companies is pretty high (just as it was for yahoo). I guess it’s how we, as a country, stay on top of innovation but it makes a company like Yahoo (only 14 years old) appear like a dinosaur.
Of course, folks that move to SD or SF from Texas or North Carolina have a bit of a problem trying to jump into the market versus the option money :(.
It’s amazing how Xerox could have retained its relevance in the tech world if it just was able to assess its own technology–course, we might not have an Apple today.
February 5, 2008 at 9:48 AM #148625DukehornParticipantThe amount of wealth generation in Silicon Valley (and with telecomm in San Diego) is pretty amazing. The problem with a google or yahoo is that the Really Smart people have really no incentive to stay if they strike it rich. They then have the money and security to move on to a new start-up. The number of old-school googlers that have started new companies is pretty high (just as it was for yahoo). I guess it’s how we, as a country, stay on top of innovation but it makes a company like Yahoo (only 14 years old) appear like a dinosaur.
Of course, folks that move to SD or SF from Texas or North Carolina have a bit of a problem trying to jump into the market versus the option money :(.
It’s amazing how Xerox could have retained its relevance in the tech world if it just was able to assess its own technology–course, we might not have an Apple today.
February 5, 2008 at 10:25 AM #148296Allan from FallbrookParticipantDuke: My dad used to say that the Silicon Valley’s dirty little secret was that all entrepreneurial vision was underwritten by Defense Dept dollars.
The model you mention was in existence from the beginning, and it started with companies like Xerox, IBM, HP and Fairchild. Stanford University also threw off a tremendous number of entrepeneurs and innovators (few folks know that SUN Microsystems stands for Stanford University Network).
The New New Thing has always been the raison d’etre of Silicon Valley and the adage there has always been Innovate or Die (or be acquired, which is where Yahoo is right now). Funny that the more things change, the more they stay the same.
I still get a laugh whenever someone quotes Al Gore and his “inventing the internet” nonsense. My dad had a DARPANet connection to Lawrence Berkeley and Lawrence Livermore Labs starting back in the 1970s. DARPANet was the forerunner to the internet, and a major interconnection point between the defense contractors, the universities and the testing facilities. As liberal as Stanford and Cal might have been (and continue to be), they didn’t hesitate to take Uncle Sam’s money for defense work.
February 5, 2008 at 10:25 AM #148546Allan from FallbrookParticipantDuke: My dad used to say that the Silicon Valley’s dirty little secret was that all entrepreneurial vision was underwritten by Defense Dept dollars.
The model you mention was in existence from the beginning, and it started with companies like Xerox, IBM, HP and Fairchild. Stanford University also threw off a tremendous number of entrepeneurs and innovators (few folks know that SUN Microsystems stands for Stanford University Network).
The New New Thing has always been the raison d’etre of Silicon Valley and the adage there has always been Innovate or Die (or be acquired, which is where Yahoo is right now). Funny that the more things change, the more they stay the same.
I still get a laugh whenever someone quotes Al Gore and his “inventing the internet” nonsense. My dad had a DARPANet connection to Lawrence Berkeley and Lawrence Livermore Labs starting back in the 1970s. DARPANet was the forerunner to the internet, and a major interconnection point between the defense contractors, the universities and the testing facilities. As liberal as Stanford and Cal might have been (and continue to be), they didn’t hesitate to take Uncle Sam’s money for defense work.
February 5, 2008 at 10:25 AM #148564Allan from FallbrookParticipantDuke: My dad used to say that the Silicon Valley’s dirty little secret was that all entrepreneurial vision was underwritten by Defense Dept dollars.
The model you mention was in existence from the beginning, and it started with companies like Xerox, IBM, HP and Fairchild. Stanford University also threw off a tremendous number of entrepeneurs and innovators (few folks know that SUN Microsystems stands for Stanford University Network).
The New New Thing has always been the raison d’etre of Silicon Valley and the adage there has always been Innovate or Die (or be acquired, which is where Yahoo is right now). Funny that the more things change, the more they stay the same.
I still get a laugh whenever someone quotes Al Gore and his “inventing the internet” nonsense. My dad had a DARPANet connection to Lawrence Berkeley and Lawrence Livermore Labs starting back in the 1970s. DARPANet was the forerunner to the internet, and a major interconnection point between the defense contractors, the universities and the testing facilities. As liberal as Stanford and Cal might have been (and continue to be), they didn’t hesitate to take Uncle Sam’s money for defense work.
February 5, 2008 at 10:25 AM #148577Allan from FallbrookParticipantDuke: My dad used to say that the Silicon Valley’s dirty little secret was that all entrepreneurial vision was underwritten by Defense Dept dollars.
The model you mention was in existence from the beginning, and it started with companies like Xerox, IBM, HP and Fairchild. Stanford University also threw off a tremendous number of entrepeneurs and innovators (few folks know that SUN Microsystems stands for Stanford University Network).
The New New Thing has always been the raison d’etre of Silicon Valley and the adage there has always been Innovate or Die (or be acquired, which is where Yahoo is right now). Funny that the more things change, the more they stay the same.
I still get a laugh whenever someone quotes Al Gore and his “inventing the internet” nonsense. My dad had a DARPANet connection to Lawrence Berkeley and Lawrence Livermore Labs starting back in the 1970s. DARPANet was the forerunner to the internet, and a major interconnection point between the defense contractors, the universities and the testing facilities. As liberal as Stanford and Cal might have been (and continue to be), they didn’t hesitate to take Uncle Sam’s money for defense work.
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