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June 16, 2008 at 7:23 PM #223590June 16, 2008 at 7:27 PM #223433
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Participant[quote=fat_lazy_union_worker]TheBreeze,
Speaking of whining. I recall when you use to post under alex_angel you use to whine all the time about housing affordability and SUVs. [/quote]
I didn’t know it’s the same guy. Thanks for clarifying that. Now it makes a lot of sense.June 16, 2008 at 7:27 PM #223539an
Participant[quote=fat_lazy_union_worker]TheBreeze,
Speaking of whining. I recall when you use to post under alex_angel you use to whine all the time about housing affordability and SUVs. [/quote]
I didn’t know it’s the same guy. Thanks for clarifying that. Now it makes a lot of sense.June 16, 2008 at 7:27 PM #223555an
Participant[quote=fat_lazy_union_worker]TheBreeze,
Speaking of whining. I recall when you use to post under alex_angel you use to whine all the time about housing affordability and SUVs. [/quote]
I didn’t know it’s the same guy. Thanks for clarifying that. Now it makes a lot of sense.June 16, 2008 at 7:27 PM #223586an
Participant[quote=fat_lazy_union_worker]TheBreeze,
Speaking of whining. I recall when you use to post under alex_angel you use to whine all the time about housing affordability and SUVs. [/quote]
I didn’t know it’s the same guy. Thanks for clarifying that. Now it makes a lot of sense.June 16, 2008 at 7:27 PM #223602an
Participant[quote=fat_lazy_union_worker]TheBreeze,
Speaking of whining. I recall when you use to post under alex_angel you use to whine all the time about housing affordability and SUVs. [/quote]
I didn’t know it’s the same guy. Thanks for clarifying that. Now it makes a lot of sense.June 16, 2008 at 7:55 PM #223448SDEngineer
Participant[quote=fat_lazy_union_worker]
Anyway, I think some still failed to answer my original post. If he(obama) wants to call this taxing the rich, why is obama leveling this on a household and not imposing this on $125k single incomes?[/quote]
I’m going to assume you’re talking about the social security/medicare tax increase here. That tax has always applied to ALL earnings of all individual taxpayers below a certain amount, and will simply now resume on all earnings of all individual taxpayers above a certain amount. It doesn’t discriminate on filing status or number of wage-earners in a family – everyone gets hit. So if you have one earner making 265000, and another making 135000, only the earner making over 250,000 will get hit (i.e. you’ll only pay the tax on the 15K the person making 265K made over 250K). The person making 135K won’t get to the other side of the donut hole, and won’t see any additional tax.
It’s no different than me and my wife. While we jointly make well over the current max tax cap, all of her earnings still take the medicare/ssi hit (since she doesn’t make the cap), and only the part of my earnings that exceed the cap are not taxed. It’d be really nice if hers were immune, but, as I said, it’s an individual payroll tax that cannot be paid jointly.
The other taxes Obama is currently in favor of are, of course, simply letting Bush’s tax breaks lapse on the top bracket, which will affect all three tax brackets, just at different break points based on filing status.
June 16, 2008 at 7:55 PM #223554SDEngineer
Participant[quote=fat_lazy_union_worker]
Anyway, I think some still failed to answer my original post. If he(obama) wants to call this taxing the rich, why is obama leveling this on a household and not imposing this on $125k single incomes?[/quote]
I’m going to assume you’re talking about the social security/medicare tax increase here. That tax has always applied to ALL earnings of all individual taxpayers below a certain amount, and will simply now resume on all earnings of all individual taxpayers above a certain amount. It doesn’t discriminate on filing status or number of wage-earners in a family – everyone gets hit. So if you have one earner making 265000, and another making 135000, only the earner making over 250,000 will get hit (i.e. you’ll only pay the tax on the 15K the person making 265K made over 250K). The person making 135K won’t get to the other side of the donut hole, and won’t see any additional tax.
It’s no different than me and my wife. While we jointly make well over the current max tax cap, all of her earnings still take the medicare/ssi hit (since she doesn’t make the cap), and only the part of my earnings that exceed the cap are not taxed. It’d be really nice if hers were immune, but, as I said, it’s an individual payroll tax that cannot be paid jointly.
The other taxes Obama is currently in favor of are, of course, simply letting Bush’s tax breaks lapse on the top bracket, which will affect all three tax brackets, just at different break points based on filing status.
June 16, 2008 at 7:55 PM #223571SDEngineer
Participant[quote=fat_lazy_union_worker]
Anyway, I think some still failed to answer my original post. If he(obama) wants to call this taxing the rich, why is obama leveling this on a household and not imposing this on $125k single incomes?[/quote]
I’m going to assume you’re talking about the social security/medicare tax increase here. That tax has always applied to ALL earnings of all individual taxpayers below a certain amount, and will simply now resume on all earnings of all individual taxpayers above a certain amount. It doesn’t discriminate on filing status or number of wage-earners in a family – everyone gets hit. So if you have one earner making 265000, and another making 135000, only the earner making over 250,000 will get hit (i.e. you’ll only pay the tax on the 15K the person making 265K made over 250K). The person making 135K won’t get to the other side of the donut hole, and won’t see any additional tax.
It’s no different than me and my wife. While we jointly make well over the current max tax cap, all of her earnings still take the medicare/ssi hit (since she doesn’t make the cap), and only the part of my earnings that exceed the cap are not taxed. It’d be really nice if hers were immune, but, as I said, it’s an individual payroll tax that cannot be paid jointly.
The other taxes Obama is currently in favor of are, of course, simply letting Bush’s tax breaks lapse on the top bracket, which will affect all three tax brackets, just at different break points based on filing status.
June 16, 2008 at 7:55 PM #223599SDEngineer
Participant[quote=fat_lazy_union_worker]
Anyway, I think some still failed to answer my original post. If he(obama) wants to call this taxing the rich, why is obama leveling this on a household and not imposing this on $125k single incomes?[/quote]
I’m going to assume you’re talking about the social security/medicare tax increase here. That tax has always applied to ALL earnings of all individual taxpayers below a certain amount, and will simply now resume on all earnings of all individual taxpayers above a certain amount. It doesn’t discriminate on filing status or number of wage-earners in a family – everyone gets hit. So if you have one earner making 265000, and another making 135000, only the earner making over 250,000 will get hit (i.e. you’ll only pay the tax on the 15K the person making 265K made over 250K). The person making 135K won’t get to the other side of the donut hole, and won’t see any additional tax.
It’s no different than me and my wife. While we jointly make well over the current max tax cap, all of her earnings still take the medicare/ssi hit (since she doesn’t make the cap), and only the part of my earnings that exceed the cap are not taxed. It’d be really nice if hers were immune, but, as I said, it’s an individual payroll tax that cannot be paid jointly.
The other taxes Obama is currently in favor of are, of course, simply letting Bush’s tax breaks lapse on the top bracket, which will affect all three tax brackets, just at different break points based on filing status.
June 16, 2008 at 7:55 PM #223614SDEngineer
Participant[quote=fat_lazy_union_worker]
Anyway, I think some still failed to answer my original post. If he(obama) wants to call this taxing the rich, why is obama leveling this on a household and not imposing this on $125k single incomes?[/quote]
I’m going to assume you’re talking about the social security/medicare tax increase here. That tax has always applied to ALL earnings of all individual taxpayers below a certain amount, and will simply now resume on all earnings of all individual taxpayers above a certain amount. It doesn’t discriminate on filing status or number of wage-earners in a family – everyone gets hit. So if you have one earner making 265000, and another making 135000, only the earner making over 250,000 will get hit (i.e. you’ll only pay the tax on the 15K the person making 265K made over 250K). The person making 135K won’t get to the other side of the donut hole, and won’t see any additional tax.
It’s no different than me and my wife. While we jointly make well over the current max tax cap, all of her earnings still take the medicare/ssi hit (since she doesn’t make the cap), and only the part of my earnings that exceed the cap are not taxed. It’d be really nice if hers were immune, but, as I said, it’s an individual payroll tax that cannot be paid jointly.
The other taxes Obama is currently in favor of are, of course, simply letting Bush’s tax breaks lapse on the top bracket, which will affect all three tax brackets, just at different break points based on filing status.
June 16, 2008 at 8:15 PM #223453an
ParticipantRight now, 2 people making $250k taxable income will have to pay $61,229. While a person making $125k is only responsible for $28,978. In 2000, a couple making $250k taxable income will have to pay $73,049 while a single person who make $125k will have to pay $33,431. So it seems the tax break helped married couple much more than single person.
June 16, 2008 at 8:15 PM #223560an
ParticipantRight now, 2 people making $250k taxable income will have to pay $61,229. While a person making $125k is only responsible for $28,978. In 2000, a couple making $250k taxable income will have to pay $73,049 while a single person who make $125k will have to pay $33,431. So it seems the tax break helped married couple much more than single person.
June 16, 2008 at 8:15 PM #223573an
ParticipantRight now, 2 people making $250k taxable income will have to pay $61,229. While a person making $125k is only responsible for $28,978. In 2000, a couple making $250k taxable income will have to pay $73,049 while a single person who make $125k will have to pay $33,431. So it seems the tax break helped married couple much more than single person.
June 16, 2008 at 8:15 PM #223606an
ParticipantRight now, 2 people making $250k taxable income will have to pay $61,229. While a person making $125k is only responsible for $28,978. In 2000, a couple making $250k taxable income will have to pay $73,049 while a single person who make $125k will have to pay $33,431. So it seems the tax break helped married couple much more than single person.
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