McCain’s new proposal to fix housing market

[an]

[quote=esmith]During his first two years, Democrats had 59% in the House and 56% in the Senate. Republicans had a slim majority after 1995, but they never had more than 55% in either chamber.[/quote]
Sorry, you’re right, only 6 of the 8 years. So, in order for us to be prosperous under Obama like Clinton, we need to give a slight advantage to the Republicans in the House and Senate, right? When was the last time where one party control everything and we came out better than we came in?

Unlike you, I don’t trust politicians, regardless of party. So I want their power to be in checked by the other party.

[XBoxBoy]

[quote=yellow8yellowm]We can safely assume that either Obama or McCain will be the next president. From a purely logical/realist standpoint, your vote or non-vote is going to influence which one will be in office.[/quote]

Sorry, but I absolutely disagree. I live in California and California will cast all of its electoral college votes for the Democratic nominee. It is such a certain, that McCain will not even both to campaign here. If we didn’t have an electoral college, I would feel differently. BUT we do have an electoral college and there is no way that my vote is going to influence who is in office so let’s not pretend that it will.

[quote=yellow8yellowm]Voting is our right, but it is the minium we can do to serve our own ends and your country’s.
[/quote]

This part I can agree with. I will vote. (I pretty much always do)

But the point of my post, and my point still is: I can not for one minute understand why anyone with half a brain could support McCain. (And actually, yes you could extend that to Obama too) And so my question was, and still is to those of you who post on Piggington’s with Pro McCain attitudes, how can you do that with a straight face? It’s one thing to say, OMG he’s terrible, but he’s better than Obama. But it’s a totally different thing to actually be “for” him and to think he’s got what it takes to be a good president.

XBoxBoy

[XBoxBoy]

[quote=yellow8yellowm]We can safely assume that either Obama or McCain will be the next president. From a purely logical/realist standpoint, your vote or non-vote is going to influence which one will be in office.[/quote]

Sorry, but I absolutely disagree. I live in California and California will cast all of its electoral college votes for the Democratic nominee. It is such a certain, that McCain will not even both to campaign here. If we didn’t have an electoral college, I would feel differently. BUT we do have an electoral college and there is no way that my vote is going to influence who is in office so let’s not pretend that it will.

[quote=yellow8yellowm]Voting is our right, but it is the minium we can do to serve our own ends and your country’s.
[/quote]

This part I can agree with. I will vote. (I pretty much always do)

But the point of my post, and my point still is: I can not for one minute understand why anyone with half a brain could support McCain. (And actually, yes you could extend that to Obama too) And so my question was, and still is to those of you who post on Piggington’s with Pro McCain attitudes, how can you do that with a straight face? It’s one thing to say, OMG he’s terrible, but he’s better than Obama. But it’s a totally different thing to actually be “for” him and to think he’s got what it takes to be a good president.

XBoxBoy

[XBoxBoy]

[quote=yellow8yellowm]We can safely assume that either Obama or McCain will be the next president. From a purely logical/realist standpoint, your vote or non-vote is going to influence which one will be in office.[/quote]

Sorry, but I absolutely disagree. I live in California and California will cast all of its electoral college votes for the Democratic nominee. It is such a certain, that McCain will not even both to campaign here. If we didn’t have an electoral college, I would feel differently. BUT we do have an electoral college and there is no way that my vote is going to influence who is in office so let’s not pretend that it will.

[quote=yellow8yellowm]Voting is our right, but it is the minium we can do to serve our own ends and your country’s.
[/quote]

This part I can agree with. I will vote. (I pretty much always do)

But the point of my post, and my point still is: I can not for one minute understand why anyone with half a brain could support McCain. (And actually, yes you could extend that to Obama too) And so my question was, and still is to those of you who post on Piggington’s with Pro McCain attitudes, how can you do that with a straight face? It’s one thing to say, OMG he’s terrible, but he’s better than Obama. But it’s a totally different thing to actually be “for” him and to think he’s got what it takes to be a good president.

XBoxBoy

[XBoxBoy]

[quote=yellow8yellowm]We can safely assume that either Obama or McCain will be the next president. From a purely logical/realist standpoint, your vote or non-vote is going to influence which one will be in office.[/quote]

Sorry, but I absolutely disagree. I live in California and California will cast all of its electoral college votes for the Democratic nominee. It is such a certain, that McCain will not even both to campaign here. If we didn’t have an electoral college, I would feel differently. BUT we do have an electoral college and there is no way that my vote is going to influence who is in office so let’s not pretend that it will.

[quote=yellow8yellowm]Voting is our right, but it is the minium we can do to serve our own ends and your country’s.
[/quote]

This part I can agree with. I will vote. (I pretty much always do)

But the point of my post, and my point still is: I can not for one minute understand why anyone with half a brain could support McCain. (And actually, yes you could extend that to Obama too) And so my question was, and still is to those of you who post on Piggington’s with Pro McCain attitudes, how can you do that with a straight face? It’s one thing to say, OMG he’s terrible, but he’s better than Obama. But it’s a totally different thing to actually be “for” him and to think he’s got what it takes to be a good president.

XBoxBoy

[XBoxBoy]

[quote=yellow8yellowm]We can safely assume that either Obama or McCain will be the next president. From a purely logical/realist standpoint, your vote or non-vote is going to influence which one will be in office.[/quote]

Sorry, but I absolutely disagree. I live in California and California will cast all of its electoral college votes for the Democratic nominee. It is such a certain, that McCain will not even both to campaign here. If we didn’t have an electoral college, I would feel differently. BUT we do have an electoral college and there is no way that my vote is going to influence who is in office so let’s not pretend that it will.

[quote=yellow8yellowm]Voting is our right, but it is the minium we can do to serve our own ends and your country’s.
[/quote]

This part I can agree with. I will vote. (I pretty much always do)

But the point of my post, and my point still is: I can not for one minute understand why anyone with half a brain could support McCain. (And actually, yes you could extend that to Obama too) And so my question was, and still is to those of you who post on Piggington’s with Pro McCain attitudes, how can you do that with a straight face? It’s one thing to say, OMG he’s terrible, but he’s better than Obama. But it’s a totally different thing to actually be “for” him and to think he’s got what it takes to be a good president.

XBoxBoy

[patientlywaiting]

I believe that the people would vote for McCain for several reasons.

1) They have high incomes and they don’t want to suffer higher taxes.

2) They don’t have high incomes but they wish they did. Wishful voting is a well known feature of the American political landscape. Lots of people have the thought of making it to the big leagues and they believe that associating, albeit politically, with the rich will get them there.

3) They are racist but will never admit it, even to themselves. It’s human nature and it takes a long time to grow out of it. During feudal times, it was an honor to invite the overlord to your daughter’s wedding. It’s still that way but in different forms.

4) They are religious nuts. Nuts is the only word for such people because they are the ones who suffer from they vices the condemn (sex outside of marriage, pregnant teenage daughters, alcoholism, etc..)

Human psychology is a very important aspect of politics. It’s well understood by the strategists but rarely talked about.

Why would a wife stay with a husband who beats her? Why do parents defend their loser kids?

[patientlywaiting]

I believe that the people would vote for McCain for several reasons.

1) They have high incomes and they don’t want to suffer higher taxes.

2) They don’t have high incomes but they wish they did. Wishful voting is a well known feature of the American political landscape. Lots of people have the thought of making it to the big leagues and they believe that associating, albeit politically, with the rich will get them there.

3) They are racist but will never admit it, even to themselves. It’s human nature and it takes a long time to grow out of it. During feudal times, it was an honor to invite the overlord to your daughter’s wedding. It’s still that way but in different forms.

4) They are religious nuts. Nuts is the only word for such people because they are the ones who suffer from they vices the condemn (sex outside of marriage, pregnant teenage daughters, alcoholism, etc..)

Human psychology is a very important aspect of politics. It’s well understood by the strategists but rarely talked about.

Why would a wife stay with a husband who beats her? Why do parents defend their loser kids?

[patientlywaiting]

I believe that the people would vote for McCain for several reasons.

1) They have high incomes and they don’t want to suffer higher taxes.

2) They don’t have high incomes but they wish they did. Wishful voting is a well known feature of the American political landscape. Lots of people have the thought of making it to the big leagues and they believe that associating, albeit politically, with the rich will get them there.

3) They are racist but will never admit it, even to themselves. It’s human nature and it takes a long time to grow out of it. During feudal times, it was an honor to invite the overlord to your daughter’s wedding. It’s still that way but in different forms.

4) They are religious nuts. Nuts is the only word for such people because they are the ones who suffer from they vices the condemn (sex outside of marriage, pregnant teenage daughters, alcoholism, etc..)

Human psychology is a very important aspect of politics. It’s well understood by the strategists but rarely talked about.

Why would a wife stay with a husband who beats her? Why do parents defend their loser kids?

[patientlywaiting]

I believe that the people would vote for McCain for several reasons.

1) They have high incomes and they don’t want to suffer higher taxes.

2) They don’t have high incomes but they wish they did. Wishful voting is a well known feature of the American political landscape. Lots of people have the thought of making it to the big leagues and they believe that associating, albeit politically, with the rich will get them there.

3) They are racist but will never admit it, even to themselves. It’s human nature and it takes a long time to grow out of it. During feudal times, it was an honor to invite the overlord to your daughter’s wedding. It’s still that way but in different forms.

4) They are religious nuts. Nuts is the only word for such people because they are the ones who suffer from they vices the condemn (sex outside of marriage, pregnant teenage daughters, alcoholism, etc..)

Human psychology is a very important aspect of politics. It’s well understood by the strategists but rarely talked about.

Why would a wife stay with a husband who beats her? Why do parents defend their loser kids?

[patientlywaiting]

I believe that the people would vote for McCain for several reasons.

1) They have high incomes and they don’t want to suffer higher taxes.

2) They don’t have high incomes but they wish they did. Wishful voting is a well known feature of the American political landscape. Lots of people have the thought of making it to the big leagues and they believe that associating, albeit politically, with the rich will get them there.

3) They are racist but will never admit it, even to themselves. It’s human nature and it takes a long time to grow out of it. During feudal times, it was an honor to invite the overlord to your daughter’s wedding. It’s still that way but in different forms.

4) They are religious nuts. Nuts is the only word for such people because they are the ones who suffer from they vices the condemn (sex outside of marriage, pregnant teenage daughters, alcoholism, etc..)

Human psychology is a very important aspect of politics. It’s well understood by the strategists but rarely talked about.

Why would a wife stay with a husband who beats her? Why do parents defend their loser kids?

[cr]

McBama is a joke.

It’s only a matter of time before a legitimate 3rd party rises up. Why not start voting for it now?

Given the choice of Obama or McCain could there be a better time to vote for a 3rd party?

That’s where my vote will go.

[cr]

McBama is a joke.

It’s only a matter of time before a legitimate 3rd party rises up. Why not start voting for it now?

Given the choice of Obama or McCain could there be a better time to vote for a 3rd party?

That’s where my vote will go.

[cr]

McBama is a joke.

It’s only a matter of time before a legitimate 3rd party rises up. Why not start voting for it now?

Given the choice of Obama or McCain could there be a better time to vote for a 3rd party?

That’s where my vote will go.

[cr]

McBama is a joke.

It’s only a matter of time before a legitimate 3rd party rises up. Why not start voting for it now?

Given the choice of Obama or McCain could there be a better time to vote for a 3rd party?

That’s where my vote will go.

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