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February 8, 2013 at 2:54 PM #759001February 8, 2013 at 3:24 PM #759009ucodegenParticipant
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Why didn’t he head east towards Arizona??
The Colorado River has a limited number of bridges crossing it on the CA/AZ border (about 10, maybe). It would be easy to put CHP armed with submachine guns on each crossing.[/quote]They can’t cover every location. I also presume he would not tell them that he is going that way before he does. He didn’t tell them that he was heading south on I5 to San Diego. There is a part of I5 that has no turnoffs. He took I15 north.. and there are parts of I15 that have no turnoffs for several miles. To get to Arizona, you can also go through Nevada then to Arizona..
February 8, 2013 at 3:49 PM #759010moneymakerParticipantMy guess is he thought they were closing in on him up there so parked the truck and burned it to block the road. Unless he knows someone up there with a cabin, like a lawyer maybe, he will freeze and probably develop frost bite up there. Not a good weekend to go to Big Bear.
February 8, 2013 at 4:03 PM #759013desmondParticipantUCO,
The road his truck was on was dirt, when I said “one-way” I meant one-way in and the same way back to get out. I don’t think he would plan on using a road that he would have to come back the same way he went in. I saw that the truck was straight, but if you looked at the tire tracks behind the truck they burned through the snow and into dirt, so he was looing traction and buried the tires into the dirt/mud. Arizona? He knew he would have been spotted before he got to Bartsow. He is either freezing his ass off, buried in the ground hiding, dead, or in a cabin waiting for a shootout.
February 8, 2013 at 4:04 PM #759014spdrunParticipantusodegen — if he’s going to Mexico by land, he has to cross Rio Colorado at some point, somewhere. Limited number of crossings, that can be relatively easily patrolled. I suppose he could be headed north by this point, or on a sailboat headed down the Baja Peninsula. Who really knows?
February 8, 2013 at 6:41 PM #759028bearishgurlParticipant[quote=ucodegen]…To get to Arizona, you can also go through Nevada then to Arizona..[/quote]
This is US 93, a mostly two-laner along the rim of the Hoover Dam, 35 mi SE of Las Vegas. A slow, comm’l truck-filled border crossing, this area is highly patrolled at ALL times. It would be only too easy to spot his vehicle there …
February 8, 2013 at 6:59 PM #759023CA renterParticipant[quote=flu][quote=CA renter]
BTW, when he refers to cops not doing anything to save a person’s life, I don’t think he’s talking about crime victims or other innocent people in this rant. He is probably talking about cops not doing anything to save the life of a criminal they’ve just shot or beat up. Not saying that that’s okay, just trying to get a better understanding of what he’s trying to convey. Not sure how this would end up in more overtime, as they would have to go to court even if the person didn’t die (might have to spend more time in court if the suspect didn’t die and they have to proceed with a criminal case against the suspect).[/quote]
Oh that’s just horseshit… Anyone that’s ever lived in LA like I have know that cops have the persona of being bullies. Serve and protect my ass. And his rant about apathy of a cop when someone dies. Totally accurate. I recall when a friend was in high school and was involved in an accident…Cop was on seen and didn’t do shit… And before you go off and say you be glad cops exist, because you never know when you might need them…. That’s a bunch of crap too.
When someone broke into (walked into our offices) and stole a bunch of stuff (making it beyond petty theft) it too 3+ hours for a cop to show up to take a 15 minute report, of which we handed over a security tape showing the perp, the phone numbers he called from one of the stolen cell phones i traced, a rough pin-point of where he lived, his street name. This case was almost a slam dunk case… What happened? Absolutely nothing…Probably too busy writing a bunch of stupid parking/speeding tickets…and charging overtime…It doesn’t justify this guy’s homicidal rampage, but still, serve and protect.. Um… sure….[/quote]
I’m quite sure he was referring to “not doing anything” WRT helping criminals, not victims of crimes or accidents. In the case of an accident, the paramedics would be en route right behind the cops, and they’re the ones who have advanced paramedic training (most cops just have basic first aid training, most of them are not even EMTs). The cops could easily make things worse, so it makes sense for them to wait for the paramedics. Besides, I know of many stories where cops did indeed provide medical aid on scene. In one case, the cop unknowingly exposed himself to AIDS and hepatitis (the patient did not at all look like the “type” to have these diseases, so he took his chances).
Anyway, not here to defend all cops because I have my own issues with them, especially when they abuse innocent protestors (why no outrage from you when they did this?), or when they behave abusively toward innocent people in the regular course of their business. I was born and raised in L.A., and had a number of friends and acquaintances who worked for the LAPD. Some were exceptionally good people who had a lot of integrity and joined for all the “right” reasons. Others were more power-hungry (IMHO) and tended to be jerks. It’s an extremely stressful job, especially in high-crime cities with a lot of racial/demographic tensions (more stress than you could ever experience in your job), and it tends to do things to people, IMHO. They see things and deal with situations that you will never experience in your entire life. Not trying to justify it, just saying that it’s hard to judge from this side of the fence. You need to understand what they’re dealing with on a day-to-day basis.
As for your office theft, I’ve had something similar happen to me in L.A. (credit card number theft) and knew exactly who did it, etc. LAPD also did absolutely nothing, and gave me the impression that I was bothering them with trivial B.S. when I reported it. You’re right about them needing to change how they handle crimes. They need to devote more resources to solving these crimes instead of passing out tickets and harassing peaceful protestors (always plenty of cops available for that!).
Also agree that the cops scare me every bit as much as a lot of the criminals out there…which is why I so strongly support the Second Amendment and the right of people to own semi-automatic guns and “assault rifles.”
February 8, 2013 at 7:24 PM #759031ucodegenParticipant[quote=bearishgurl][quote=ucodegen]…To get to Arizona, you can also go through Nevada then to Arizona..[/quote]
This is US 93, a mostly two-laner along the rim of the Hoover Dam, 35 mi SE of Las Vegas. A slow, comm’l truck-filled border crossing, this area is highly patrolled at ALL times. It would be only too easy to spot his vehicle there …[/quote]As it would be for I-5 by Pendleton, and parts of I-15.
February 8, 2013 at 8:11 PM #759036CoronitaParticipantHere you go folks…
February 8, 2013 at 8:13 PM #759037spdrunParticipantThe policewoman(?) in back sure looks like Dick Cheney in drag.
February 8, 2013 at 8:38 PM #759040paramountParticipant[quote=flu]Here you go folks…
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It is possible that the shooting of these innocent civilians was motivated by revenge….
February 8, 2013 at 8:39 PM #759039paramountParticipant[quote=CA renter]
Anyway, not here to defend all cops because I have my own issues with them, especially when they abuse innocent protesters (why no outrage from you when they did this?), or when they behave abusively toward innocent people in the regular course of their business. [/quote]
There was outrage, but what can you do – complain on blogs is about it.
Since 9/11 the militarization of the police has accelerated, and I think part of that has been the dehumanization of their enemy -> the general public.
More and more people are waking up from their slumber and realizing the police are effectively unaccountable.
February 8, 2013 at 8:49 PM #759041paramountParticipantA little off topic, but in the interest of reducing the probability of interfacing with the police consider buying a radar/laser detector.
It’s really easy to exceed the speed limit downhill, and we all know these revenue generators love to sit at the bottom of a long downhill grade.
This detector is just over $40 bucks and has great reviews – could save you a lot more than $40 bucks:
February 9, 2013 at 3:17 PM #759091paramountParticipant[quote=flu]Here you go folks…
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UPDATED: Los Angeles police officers were administering “street justice” when they opened fire on two newspaper carriers on a Torrance street as they protected a captain’s house from suspected gunman Christopher Dorner, an attorney said Friday.
Police opened fire. A neighbor said he heard as many as 20 shots.
Beck called it a case of mistaken identity.
Jonas called it something else.
“It’s obvious that police wanted to execute this guy,” Jonas said. “They forgot the reason there are rules of engagement. Thank God nobody is dead. It’s street justice. That’s always unacceptable.”
Jonas said that although he understands it was before dawn, the women were driving a “really bright, super shiny royal blue” Toyota Tacoma, nothing like Dorner’s truck.
February 9, 2013 at 3:30 PM #759092no_such_realityParticipantIn today’s disgusting LAPD behavior, Chief Beck proceeding to proclaim it’ll take days to get the facts around the shooting of the two women.
He then proceeding to claim that the shooting occurred in two groups after the women accelerated towards the second group of officers.
Yea, that explains those 46 holes in the back.
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