Looks like Hillary’s done

[zk]

Sorry nostradamus, but you’ve got it wrong. Pennsylvania (as with most or all states) doesn’t award all of its delegates to the candidate who wins the primary. It awards its delegates proportionally (or thereabouts – the rules are complex and they differ from state to state). So Clinton won’t win anywhere near 158 delegates there. And if you do the math (as lots of pundits have, virtually all coming to the same conclusion):

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&um=1&tab=wn&q=delegate+math

it will be almost impossible for Clinton to win enough delegates to have a lead going into the convention. And unless she has more delegates going into the convention (or a lead in the popular vote, which is equally unlikely), the only way she can win is if the super delegates overturn the will of the people. And if that happens, the disgust with the Democratic party will be (justifiably, in my opinion) immense. And I don’t see how Clinton can beat McCain after winning the nomination in that fashion.

So all she’s doing by staying in the race is increasing the chances a Republican will win, either because she beat up Obama so bad that it hurt his chances against McCain or because she damaged the Democratic Party so badly that it hurts her chances against McCain.

I’d planned on voting for Clinton if she were the nominee (this was before the bailout plans – I’m not so sure I’ll vote for a Democrat at all now) but the lack of judgement she’s showing right now is very disturbing.

[Anonymous]

zk, stay with the Dems and vote for Obama in the end. He’s our man.

[Anonymous]

zk, stay with the Dems and vote for Obama in the end. He’s our man.

[Anonymous]

zk, stay with the Dems and vote for Obama in the end. He’s our man.

[Anonymous]

zk, stay with the Dems and vote for Obama in the end. He’s our man.

[Anonymous]

zk, stay with the Dems and vote for Obama in the end. He’s our man.

[speedingpullet]

I agree with you zk, I also think she’s toast.

I’m not liking all the ‘well, we can always poach Obama’s pledged delegates’, or ‘let the Superdelegates decide’, or the endless re-referencing of the Jeremiah Wright debacle.
A talking head on one of the cable news channels put it beautifully the other day “every time I think of Hillary, all I see is the Fine Print” -ie she needs to point out the exceptions, rather than looking at the Big Picture, when it comes to her actually winning the nomination ‘honestly’.

But – having said all that – there’s still 20% of the States that haven’t voted yet…and with both FL and MI being out of the running (with lots of mudslinging on both sides about that), its more important than ever to allow the remaining States to have their say.

So, yeah, this whole sorry mess will drag itself on into June. Hillary won’t go quietly, not while the chance to pick up a few more delegates in the remaining 10 states still exists.

My only hope is that they start to tone down the bitching – any more James Carville-like ‘Judas” comments, and the Dems are in danger of losing a lot of their support.

[speedingpullet]

I agree with you zk, I also think she’s toast.

I’m not liking all the ‘well, we can always poach Obama’s pledged delegates’, or ‘let the Superdelegates decide’, or the endless re-referencing of the Jeremiah Wright debacle.
A talking head on one of the cable news channels put it beautifully the other day “every time I think of Hillary, all I see is the Fine Print” -ie she needs to point out the exceptions, rather than looking at the Big Picture, when it comes to her actually winning the nomination ‘honestly’.

But – having said all that – there’s still 20% of the States that haven’t voted yet…and with both FL and MI being out of the running (with lots of mudslinging on both sides about that), its more important than ever to allow the remaining States to have their say.

So, yeah, this whole sorry mess will drag itself on into June. Hillary won’t go quietly, not while the chance to pick up a few more delegates in the remaining 10 states still exists.

My only hope is that they start to tone down the bitching – any more James Carville-like ‘Judas” comments, and the Dems are in danger of losing a lot of their support.

[speedingpullet]

I agree with you zk, I also think she’s toast.

I’m not liking all the ‘well, we can always poach Obama’s pledged delegates’, or ‘let the Superdelegates decide’, or the endless re-referencing of the Jeremiah Wright debacle.
A talking head on one of the cable news channels put it beautifully the other day “every time I think of Hillary, all I see is the Fine Print” -ie she needs to point out the exceptions, rather than looking at the Big Picture, when it comes to her actually winning the nomination ‘honestly’.

But – having said all that – there’s still 20% of the States that haven’t voted yet…and with both FL and MI being out of the running (with lots of mudslinging on both sides about that), its more important than ever to allow the remaining States to have their say.

So, yeah, this whole sorry mess will drag itself on into June. Hillary won’t go quietly, not while the chance to pick up a few more delegates in the remaining 10 states still exists.

My only hope is that they start to tone down the bitching – any more James Carville-like ‘Judas” comments, and the Dems are in danger of losing a lot of their support.

[speedingpullet]

I agree with you zk, I also think she’s toast.

I’m not liking all the ‘well, we can always poach Obama’s pledged delegates’, or ‘let the Superdelegates decide’, or the endless re-referencing of the Jeremiah Wright debacle.
A talking head on one of the cable news channels put it beautifully the other day “every time I think of Hillary, all I see is the Fine Print” -ie she needs to point out the exceptions, rather than looking at the Big Picture, when it comes to her actually winning the nomination ‘honestly’.

But – having said all that – there’s still 20% of the States that haven’t voted yet…and with both FL and MI being out of the running (with lots of mudslinging on both sides about that), its more important than ever to allow the remaining States to have their say.

So, yeah, this whole sorry mess will drag itself on into June. Hillary won’t go quietly, not while the chance to pick up a few more delegates in the remaining 10 states still exists.

My only hope is that they start to tone down the bitching – any more James Carville-like ‘Judas” comments, and the Dems are in danger of losing a lot of their support.

[speedingpullet]

I agree with you zk, I also think she’s toast.

I’m not liking all the ‘well, we can always poach Obama’s pledged delegates’, or ‘let the Superdelegates decide’, or the endless re-referencing of the Jeremiah Wright debacle.
A talking head on one of the cable news channels put it beautifully the other day “every time I think of Hillary, all I see is the Fine Print” -ie she needs to point out the exceptions, rather than looking at the Big Picture, when it comes to her actually winning the nomination ‘honestly’.

But – having said all that – there’s still 20% of the States that haven’t voted yet…and with both FL and MI being out of the running (with lots of mudslinging on both sides about that), its more important than ever to allow the remaining States to have their say.

So, yeah, this whole sorry mess will drag itself on into June. Hillary won’t go quietly, not while the chance to pick up a few more delegates in the remaining 10 states still exists.

My only hope is that they start to tone down the bitching – any more James Carville-like ‘Judas” comments, and the Dems are in danger of losing a lot of their support.

[Sly]

Has it ever occurred to anybody that Hillary knows she is done. Her strategy is top inflict as much damage to Obama as posible resulting in Obama being defeated in 2008.

Hillary will then come back in 2012 and run against McCain, if he is still alive in 2012.

[Sly]

Has it ever occurred to anybody that Hillary knows she is done. Her strategy is top inflict as much damage to Obama as posible resulting in Obama being defeated in 2008.

Hillary will then come back in 2012 and run against McCain, if he is still alive in 2012.

[Sly]

Has it ever occurred to anybody that Hillary knows she is done. Her strategy is top inflict as much damage to Obama as posible resulting in Obama being defeated in 2008.

Hillary will then come back in 2012 and run against McCain, if he is still alive in 2012.

[Sly]

Has it ever occurred to anybody that Hillary knows she is done. Her strategy is top inflict as much damage to Obama as posible resulting in Obama being defeated in 2008.

Hillary will then come back in 2012 and run against McCain, if he is still alive in 2012.

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