Looks like Hillary’s done

[admin]

I’m not one to count chickens before they hatch, but it appears that Hillary’s done. I wish she’d just leave now because in agreement with the article, all this bickering isn’t good for the dem party’s presidential race. Unfortunately, Hillary just doesn’t have it in her to bow out gracefully.

[Anonymous]

http://news.aol.com/elections/story/_a/obama-gets-boost-clinton-urged-to-quit/20080328173009990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001

Almost forgot the link.

[Anonymous]

http://news.aol.com/elections/story/_a/obama-gets-boost-clinton-urged-to-quit/20080328173009990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001

Almost forgot the link.

[Anonymous]

http://news.aol.com/elections/story/_a/obama-gets-boost-clinton-urged-to-quit/20080328173009990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001

Almost forgot the link.

[Anonymous]

http://news.aol.com/elections/story/_a/obama-gets-boost-clinton-urged-to-quit/20080328173009990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001

Almost forgot the link.

[Anonymous]

http://news.aol.com/elections/story/_a/obama-gets-boost-clinton-urged-to-quit/20080328173009990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001

Almost forgot the link.

[nostradamus]

That’s media manipulation if I’ve ever seen it. The race is still close, but Patrick Leahy (who I heard talking about it on NPR today), a staunch Obama supporter, says “Hillary can’t possibly win and should quit”. I guess the media has decided who their darling is because they run with that and are now saying Hillary can’t win. Ridiculous.

They need 2024 delegates to win. Obama has 1625, Hillary has 1486… So they’re both “about 500 delegates away” from winning it. I’d say it’s waaaaaaay to early to quit. She’s expected to win in Penn. and pick up 158 more delegates, which would put her in the lead. Should Obama quit then?

So if she’s your candidate I wouldn’t throw in the towel just yet. There are 3 more months of primaries.

[nostradamus]

That’s media manipulation if I’ve ever seen it. The race is still close, but Patrick Leahy (who I heard talking about it on NPR today), a staunch Obama supporter, says “Hillary can’t possibly win and should quit”. I guess the media has decided who their darling is because they run with that and are now saying Hillary can’t win. Ridiculous.

They need 2024 delegates to win. Obama has 1625, Hillary has 1486… So they’re both “about 500 delegates away” from winning it. I’d say it’s waaaaaaay to early to quit. She’s expected to win in Penn. and pick up 158 more delegates, which would put her in the lead. Should Obama quit then?

So if she’s your candidate I wouldn’t throw in the towel just yet. There are 3 more months of primaries.

[nostradamus]

That’s media manipulation if I’ve ever seen it. The race is still close, but Patrick Leahy (who I heard talking about it on NPR today), a staunch Obama supporter, says “Hillary can’t possibly win and should quit”. I guess the media has decided who their darling is because they run with that and are now saying Hillary can’t win. Ridiculous.

They need 2024 delegates to win. Obama has 1625, Hillary has 1486… So they’re both “about 500 delegates away” from winning it. I’d say it’s waaaaaaay to early to quit. She’s expected to win in Penn. and pick up 158 more delegates, which would put her in the lead. Should Obama quit then?

So if she’s your candidate I wouldn’t throw in the towel just yet. There are 3 more months of primaries.

[nostradamus]

That’s media manipulation if I’ve ever seen it. The race is still close, but Patrick Leahy (who I heard talking about it on NPR today), a staunch Obama supporter, says “Hillary can’t possibly win and should quit”. I guess the media has decided who their darling is because they run with that and are now saying Hillary can’t win. Ridiculous.

They need 2024 delegates to win. Obama has 1625, Hillary has 1486… So they’re both “about 500 delegates away” from winning it. I’d say it’s waaaaaaay to early to quit. She’s expected to win in Penn. and pick up 158 more delegates, which would put her in the lead. Should Obama quit then?

So if she’s your candidate I wouldn’t throw in the towel just yet. There are 3 more months of primaries.

[nostradamus]

That’s media manipulation if I’ve ever seen it. The race is still close, but Patrick Leahy (who I heard talking about it on NPR today), a staunch Obama supporter, says “Hillary can’t possibly win and should quit”. I guess the media has decided who their darling is because they run with that and are now saying Hillary can’t win. Ridiculous.

They need 2024 delegates to win. Obama has 1625, Hillary has 1486… So they’re both “about 500 delegates away” from winning it. I’d say it’s waaaaaaay to early to quit. She’s expected to win in Penn. and pick up 158 more delegates, which would put her in the lead. Should Obama quit then?

So if she’s your candidate I wouldn’t throw in the towel just yet. There are 3 more months of primaries.

[zk]

Sorry nostradamus, but you’ve got it wrong. Pennsylvania (as with most or all states) doesn’t award all of its delegates to the candidate who wins the primary. It awards its delegates proportionally (or thereabouts – the rules are complex and they differ from state to state). So Clinton won’t win anywhere near 158 delegates there. And if you do the math (as lots of pundits have, virtually all coming to the same conclusion):

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&um=1&tab=wn&q=delegate+math

it will be almost impossible for Clinton to win enough delegates to have a lead going into the convention. And unless she has more delegates going into the convention (or a lead in the popular vote, which is equally unlikely), the only way she can win is if the super delegates overturn the will of the people. And if that happens, the disgust with the Democratic party will be (justifiably, in my opinion) immense. And I don’t see how Clinton can beat McCain after winning the nomination in that fashion.

So all she’s doing by staying in the race is increasing the chances a Republican will win, either because she beat up Obama so bad that it hurt his chances against McCain or because she damaged the Democratic Party so badly that it hurts her chances against McCain.

I’d planned on voting for Clinton if she were the nominee (this was before the bailout plans – I’m not so sure I’ll vote for a Democrat at all now) but the lack of judgement she’s showing right now is very disturbing.

[zk]

Sorry nostradamus, but you’ve got it wrong. Pennsylvania (as with most or all states) doesn’t award all of its delegates to the candidate who wins the primary. It awards its delegates proportionally (or thereabouts – the rules are complex and they differ from state to state). So Clinton won’t win anywhere near 158 delegates there. And if you do the math (as lots of pundits have, virtually all coming to the same conclusion):

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&um=1&tab=wn&q=delegate+math

it will be almost impossible for Clinton to win enough delegates to have a lead going into the convention. And unless she has more delegates going into the convention (or a lead in the popular vote, which is equally unlikely), the only way she can win is if the super delegates overturn the will of the people. And if that happens, the disgust with the Democratic party will be (justifiably, in my opinion) immense. And I don’t see how Clinton can beat McCain after winning the nomination in that fashion.

So all she’s doing by staying in the race is increasing the chances a Republican will win, either because she beat up Obama so bad that it hurt his chances against McCain or because she damaged the Democratic Party so badly that it hurts her chances against McCain.

I’d planned on voting for Clinton if she were the nominee (this was before the bailout plans – I’m not so sure I’ll vote for a Democrat at all now) but the lack of judgement she’s showing right now is very disturbing.

[zk]

Sorry nostradamus, but you’ve got it wrong. Pennsylvania (as with most or all states) doesn’t award all of its delegates to the candidate who wins the primary. It awards its delegates proportionally (or thereabouts – the rules are complex and they differ from state to state). So Clinton won’t win anywhere near 158 delegates there. And if you do the math (as lots of pundits have, virtually all coming to the same conclusion):

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&um=1&tab=wn&q=delegate+math

it will be almost impossible for Clinton to win enough delegates to have a lead going into the convention. And unless she has more delegates going into the convention (or a lead in the popular vote, which is equally unlikely), the only way she can win is if the super delegates overturn the will of the people. And if that happens, the disgust with the Democratic party will be (justifiably, in my opinion) immense. And I don’t see how Clinton can beat McCain after winning the nomination in that fashion.

So all she’s doing by staying in the race is increasing the chances a Republican will win, either because she beat up Obama so bad that it hurt his chances against McCain or because she damaged the Democratic Party so badly that it hurts her chances against McCain.

I’d planned on voting for Clinton if she were the nominee (this was before the bailout plans – I’m not so sure I’ll vote for a Democrat at all now) but the lack of judgement she’s showing right now is very disturbing.

[zk]

Sorry nostradamus, but you’ve got it wrong. Pennsylvania (as with most or all states) doesn’t award all of its delegates to the candidate who wins the primary. It awards its delegates proportionally (or thereabouts – the rules are complex and they differ from state to state). So Clinton won’t win anywhere near 158 delegates there. And if you do the math (as lots of pundits have, virtually all coming to the same conclusion):

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&um=1&tab=wn&q=delegate+math

it will be almost impossible for Clinton to win enough delegates to have a lead going into the convention. And unless she has more delegates going into the convention (or a lead in the popular vote, which is equally unlikely), the only way she can win is if the super delegates overturn the will of the people. And if that happens, the disgust with the Democratic party will be (justifiably, in my opinion) immense. And I don’t see how Clinton can beat McCain after winning the nomination in that fashion.

So all she’s doing by staying in the race is increasing the chances a Republican will win, either because she beat up Obama so bad that it hurt his chances against McCain or because she damaged the Democratic Party so badly that it hurts her chances against McCain.

I’d planned on voting for Clinton if she were the nominee (this was before the bailout plans – I’m not so sure I’ll vote for a Democrat at all now) but the lack of judgement she’s showing right now is very disturbing.

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