Lets Commend Jeff Bridges for Promoting Hyundai

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=Rt.66]Nice try Allen.

You get your ass kicked on one thread and limp over to another thread (that would have died on arrival if not for your lame “bumps”), and try and save face.

You are pathetic.

I’ve answered all you seemingly clever questions over at the original thread. Yes, even the Toyota’s made in US plants Q.

You know I’m not a protectionist, yet resorting to trying to convince others I’m extreme is your last hope to gain an upper hand. Pathetic.[/quote]

Rt.66: You’re not extreme? Referring to others as hate mongering losers isn’t extreme? Uh, okay.

Your only supporter is a complete nutjob (Paddyoh) who has been unceremoniously ejected from Jeff Bridges’ website and is on the verge of a cease and desist letter from his attorney.

And, no, you didn’t kick my ass. You claim to have kicked my ass and Paddyoh (or PaddyHo according to you, which is funny on so many levels), sensing a comrade (meant in the Stalinist sense of the word) began blaring news of your “victory”.

Your facts are either specious or fallacious, you constantly and consistently conflate events, even though they took place decades apart (i.e. organized labor’s failed policies began in the 1950s and US policies on manufacturing and outsourcing began in the 1970s) and you conveniently ignore or deride that which doesn’t fit with your worldview. A worldview, I might add, which is very un-American in it’s own way, in that it seeks to maintain unsustainable labor policies for the auto industry at the risk of destroying American business overseas due to reactions from other countries (which is why I suggested a reading of Smoot-Hawley and it’s effects during the Great Depression was in order).

You can claim victory all you want, but all you and your little Paddy have done is shown yourselves for what you are: Shrill and hysterical touts for organized labor, who have a “Me First” attitude and to hell with everyone else who doesn’t agree with you or jump on your little totalitarian bandwagon. There is NOTHING more un-American than denying free choice and free speech.

Name call all you want, but, without facts and well reasoned argument, you’re just screaming in the breeze.

[Rt.66]

Once again Allen, I answered all your questions in the 17 page thread. Anyone who cares to check can read those pages and see you for the blowhard you are. I am guessing you are counting on the fact that most people won’t sift thru 17 pages to see Allen getting his ass handed to him. And thusly you think you can save face and claim you are still the MasterDebater you claimed to be.

You get shot down and you slink away and then when you think you’ve found some knew secret weapon to bolster your argument, you come back and beg for another shot. Lame!

I did throw you a bone, just to prove your lameness. After you begged and denied your ass whipping, begged and denied, I relented and responded to, and shot down, your dumb “it’s all about 30 and out” theory over in the original thread. Really your arguments are only getting weaker.

Still I bet you will outlast me and when I stop posting for a while there will be pages of Allen acting like he hasn’t lost and more Allen blather. Which will probably go uncontested as you’ve shown there is no winning with Allen, just endless do-overs until they give up and Allen wins by default.

[Rt.66]

Once again Allen, I answered all your questions in the 17 page thread. Anyone who cares to check can read those pages and see you for the blowhard you are. I am guessing you are counting on the fact that most people won’t sift thru 17 pages to see Allen getting his ass handed to him. And thusly you think you can save face and claim you are still the MasterDebater you claimed to be.

You get shot down and you slink away and then when you think you’ve found some knew secret weapon to bolster your argument, you come back and beg for another shot. Lame!

I did throw you a bone, just to prove your lameness. After you begged and denied your ass whipping, begged and denied, I relented and responded to, and shot down, your dumb “it’s all about 30 and out” theory over in the original thread. Really your arguments are only getting weaker.

Still I bet you will outlast me and when I stop posting for a while there will be pages of Allen acting like he hasn’t lost and more Allen blather. Which will probably go uncontested as you’ve shown there is no winning with Allen, just endless do-overs until they give up and Allen wins by default.

[Rt.66]

Once again Allen, I answered all your questions in the 17 page thread. Anyone who cares to check can read those pages and see you for the blowhard you are. I am guessing you are counting on the fact that most people won’t sift thru 17 pages to see Allen getting his ass handed to him. And thusly you think you can save face and claim you are still the MasterDebater you claimed to be.

You get shot down and you slink away and then when you think you’ve found some knew secret weapon to bolster your argument, you come back and beg for another shot. Lame!

I did throw you a bone, just to prove your lameness. After you begged and denied your ass whipping, begged and denied, I relented and responded to, and shot down, your dumb “it’s all about 30 and out” theory over in the original thread. Really your arguments are only getting weaker.

Still I bet you will outlast me and when I stop posting for a while there will be pages of Allen acting like he hasn’t lost and more Allen blather. Which will probably go uncontested as you’ve shown there is no winning with Allen, just endless do-overs until they give up and Allen wins by default.

[Rt.66]

Once again Allen, I answered all your questions in the 17 page thread. Anyone who cares to check can read those pages and see you for the blowhard you are. I am guessing you are counting on the fact that most people won’t sift thru 17 pages to see Allen getting his ass handed to him. And thusly you think you can save face and claim you are still the MasterDebater you claimed to be.

You get shot down and you slink away and then when you think you’ve found some knew secret weapon to bolster your argument, you come back and beg for another shot. Lame!

I did throw you a bone, just to prove your lameness. After you begged and denied your ass whipping, begged and denied, I relented and responded to, and shot down, your dumb “it’s all about 30 and out” theory over in the original thread. Really your arguments are only getting weaker.

Still I bet you will outlast me and when I stop posting for a while there will be pages of Allen acting like he hasn’t lost and more Allen blather. Which will probably go uncontested as you’ve shown there is no winning with Allen, just endless do-overs until they give up and Allen wins by default.

[Rt.66]

Once again Allen, I answered all your questions in the 17 page thread. Anyone who cares to check can read those pages and see you for the blowhard you are. I am guessing you are counting on the fact that most people won’t sift thru 17 pages to see Allen getting his ass handed to him. And thusly you think you can save face and claim you are still the MasterDebater you claimed to be.

You get shot down and you slink away and then when you think you’ve found some knew secret weapon to bolster your argument, you come back and beg for another shot. Lame!

I did throw you a bone, just to prove your lameness. After you begged and denied your ass whipping, begged and denied, I relented and responded to, and shot down, your dumb “it’s all about 30 and out” theory over in the original thread. Really your arguments are only getting weaker.

Still I bet you will outlast me and when I stop posting for a while there will be pages of Allen acting like he hasn’t lost and more Allen blather. Which will probably go uncontested as you’ve shown there is no winning with Allen, just endless do-overs until they give up and Allen wins by default.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=Rt.66]Nice try Allen.

You get your ass kicked on one thread and limp over to another thread (that would have died on arrival if not for your lame “bumps”), and try and save face.

You are pathetic.

I’ve answered all you seemingly clever questions over at the original thread. Yes, even the Toyota’s made in US plants Q.

You know I’m not a protectionist, yet resorting to trying to convince others I’m extreme is your last hope to gain an upper hand. Pathetic.[/quote]

Rt.66: Let’s strip away all of your extraneous bullshit and tortured logic and strip this down to PRIMARY and CONTRIBUTORY factors regarding GM’s demise.

PRIMARY factor: 1950s: Organized labor negotiates unduly burdensome and expensive concessions from GM that, over a period of four decades, ultimately help bankrupt the company,

PRIMARY factor: 1970s: GM management decides to ignore the impact of the oil shocks, changing consumer tastes and the foothold Japanese car companies have established in the US and keeps designing large, fuel inefficient designs that mostly use the same chassis and frame style (resulting in consumer charges that “all GM cars look alike”),

CONTRIBUTORY factor: late 1970s – 1990s: US government (on the state and federal level), in an epic failure of foresight, allows tens of thousands of US jobs to be outsourced or lost due to an inability to overcome the union/organized labor lobby and a byzantine tax code that allows US corporations to circumvent US tax code. Additionally, countries like Canada and Mexico induce US companies, through a combination of incentives, including far lower labor rates, to move manufacturing operations overseas or over the border(s).

Do you see the timing now? Tell me where I have it wrong, please.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=Rt.66]Nice try Allen.

You get your ass kicked on one thread and limp over to another thread (that would have died on arrival if not for your lame “bumps”), and try and save face.

You are pathetic.

I’ve answered all you seemingly clever questions over at the original thread. Yes, even the Toyota’s made in US plants Q.

You know I’m not a protectionist, yet resorting to trying to convince others I’m extreme is your last hope to gain an upper hand. Pathetic.[/quote]

Rt.66: Let’s strip away all of your extraneous bullshit and tortured logic and strip this down to PRIMARY and CONTRIBUTORY factors regarding GM’s demise.

PRIMARY factor: 1950s: Organized labor negotiates unduly burdensome and expensive concessions from GM that, over a period of four decades, ultimately help bankrupt the company,

PRIMARY factor: 1970s: GM management decides to ignore the impact of the oil shocks, changing consumer tastes and the foothold Japanese car companies have established in the US and keeps designing large, fuel inefficient designs that mostly use the same chassis and frame style (resulting in consumer charges that “all GM cars look alike”),

CONTRIBUTORY factor: late 1970s – 1990s: US government (on the state and federal level), in an epic failure of foresight, allows tens of thousands of US jobs to be outsourced or lost due to an inability to overcome the union/organized labor lobby and a byzantine tax code that allows US corporations to circumvent US tax code. Additionally, countries like Canada and Mexico induce US companies, through a combination of incentives, including far lower labor rates, to move manufacturing operations overseas or over the border(s).

Do you see the timing now? Tell me where I have it wrong, please.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=Rt.66]Nice try Allen.

You get your ass kicked on one thread and limp over to another thread (that would have died on arrival if not for your lame “bumps”), and try and save face.

You are pathetic.

I’ve answered all you seemingly clever questions over at the original thread. Yes, even the Toyota’s made in US plants Q.

You know I’m not a protectionist, yet resorting to trying to convince others I’m extreme is your last hope to gain an upper hand. Pathetic.[/quote]

Rt.66: Let’s strip away all of your extraneous bullshit and tortured logic and strip this down to PRIMARY and CONTRIBUTORY factors regarding GM’s demise.

PRIMARY factor: 1950s: Organized labor negotiates unduly burdensome and expensive concessions from GM that, over a period of four decades, ultimately help bankrupt the company,

PRIMARY factor: 1970s: GM management decides to ignore the impact of the oil shocks, changing consumer tastes and the foothold Japanese car companies have established in the US and keeps designing large, fuel inefficient designs that mostly use the same chassis and frame style (resulting in consumer charges that “all GM cars look alike”),

CONTRIBUTORY factor: late 1970s – 1990s: US government (on the state and federal level), in an epic failure of foresight, allows tens of thousands of US jobs to be outsourced or lost due to an inability to overcome the union/organized labor lobby and a byzantine tax code that allows US corporations to circumvent US tax code. Additionally, countries like Canada and Mexico induce US companies, through a combination of incentives, including far lower labor rates, to move manufacturing operations overseas or over the border(s).

Do you see the timing now? Tell me where I have it wrong, please.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=Rt.66]Nice try Allen.

You get your ass kicked on one thread and limp over to another thread (that would have died on arrival if not for your lame “bumps”), and try and save face.

You are pathetic.

I’ve answered all you seemingly clever questions over at the original thread. Yes, even the Toyota’s made in US plants Q.

You know I’m not a protectionist, yet resorting to trying to convince others I’m extreme is your last hope to gain an upper hand. Pathetic.[/quote]

Rt.66: Let’s strip away all of your extraneous bullshit and tortured logic and strip this down to PRIMARY and CONTRIBUTORY factors regarding GM’s demise.

PRIMARY factor: 1950s: Organized labor negotiates unduly burdensome and expensive concessions from GM that, over a period of four decades, ultimately help bankrupt the company,

PRIMARY factor: 1970s: GM management decides to ignore the impact of the oil shocks, changing consumer tastes and the foothold Japanese car companies have established in the US and keeps designing large, fuel inefficient designs that mostly use the same chassis and frame style (resulting in consumer charges that “all GM cars look alike”),

CONTRIBUTORY factor: late 1970s – 1990s: US government (on the state and federal level), in an epic failure of foresight, allows tens of thousands of US jobs to be outsourced or lost due to an inability to overcome the union/organized labor lobby and a byzantine tax code that allows US corporations to circumvent US tax code. Additionally, countries like Canada and Mexico induce US companies, through a combination of incentives, including far lower labor rates, to move manufacturing operations overseas or over the border(s).

Do you see the timing now? Tell me where I have it wrong, please.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=Rt.66]Nice try Allen.

You get your ass kicked on one thread and limp over to another thread (that would have died on arrival if not for your lame “bumps”), and try and save face.

You are pathetic.

I’ve answered all you seemingly clever questions over at the original thread. Yes, even the Toyota’s made in US plants Q.

You know I’m not a protectionist, yet resorting to trying to convince others I’m extreme is your last hope to gain an upper hand. Pathetic.[/quote]

Rt.66: Let’s strip away all of your extraneous bullshit and tortured logic and strip this down to PRIMARY and CONTRIBUTORY factors regarding GM’s demise.

PRIMARY factor: 1950s: Organized labor negotiates unduly burdensome and expensive concessions from GM that, over a period of four decades, ultimately help bankrupt the company,

PRIMARY factor: 1970s: GM management decides to ignore the impact of the oil shocks, changing consumer tastes and the foothold Japanese car companies have established in the US and keeps designing large, fuel inefficient designs that mostly use the same chassis and frame style (resulting in consumer charges that “all GM cars look alike”),

CONTRIBUTORY factor: late 1970s – 1990s: US government (on the state and federal level), in an epic failure of foresight, allows tens of thousands of US jobs to be outsourced or lost due to an inability to overcome the union/organized labor lobby and a byzantine tax code that allows US corporations to circumvent US tax code. Additionally, countries like Canada and Mexico induce US companies, through a combination of incentives, including far lower labor rates, to move manufacturing operations overseas or over the border(s).

Do you see the timing now? Tell me where I have it wrong, please.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=Rt.66]Once again Allen, I answered all your questions in the 17 page thread. Anyone who cares to check can read those pages and see you for the blowhard you are. I am guessing you are counting on the fact that most people won’t sift thru 17 pages to see Allen getting his ass handed to him. And thusly you think you can save face and claim you are still the MasterDebater you claimed to be.

You get shot down and you slink away and then when you think you’ve found some knew secret weapon to bolster your argument, you come back and beg for another shot. Lame!

I did throw you a bone, just to prove your lameness. After you begged and denied your ass whipping, begged and denied, I relented and responded to, and shot down, your dumb “it’s all about 30 and out” theory over in the original thread. Really your arguments are only getting weaker.

Still I bet you will outlast me and when I stop posting for a while there will be pages of Allen acting like he hasn’t lost and more Allen blather. Which will probably go uncontested as you’ve shown there is no winning with Allen, just endless do-overs until they give up and Allen wins by default.[/quote]

Rt.66: Read what I wrote below and tell me where I’m wrong. Simple as that.

How long have you been in the pocket of organized labor? Seriously. Since the 1950s, it has done more to destroy the competitiveness of this country than any other factor.

And let’s not discuss organized labor’s ties to organized crime, okay? Well, I guess one good thing is that Las Vegas wouldn’t have been built without all those “sweetheart” loans from the unions, right?

America’s strength has always been her ability to innovate and reinvent herself. Look at the Silicon Valley and get a sense of what truly makes this country strong. That’s our strength, not a bunch of overpaid whiners claiming they’re victims because Mr. Market has passed them by and selected the next winner.

Survival of the fittest, not the fattest.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=Rt.66]Once again Allen, I answered all your questions in the 17 page thread. Anyone who cares to check can read those pages and see you for the blowhard you are. I am guessing you are counting on the fact that most people won’t sift thru 17 pages to see Allen getting his ass handed to him. And thusly you think you can save face and claim you are still the MasterDebater you claimed to be.

You get shot down and you slink away and then when you think you’ve found some knew secret weapon to bolster your argument, you come back and beg for another shot. Lame!

I did throw you a bone, just to prove your lameness. After you begged and denied your ass whipping, begged and denied, I relented and responded to, and shot down, your dumb “it’s all about 30 and out” theory over in the original thread. Really your arguments are only getting weaker.

Still I bet you will outlast me and when I stop posting for a while there will be pages of Allen acting like he hasn’t lost and more Allen blather. Which will probably go uncontested as you’ve shown there is no winning with Allen, just endless do-overs until they give up and Allen wins by default.[/quote]

Rt.66: Read what I wrote below and tell me where I’m wrong. Simple as that.

How long have you been in the pocket of organized labor? Seriously. Since the 1950s, it has done more to destroy the competitiveness of this country than any other factor.

And let’s not discuss organized labor’s ties to organized crime, okay? Well, I guess one good thing is that Las Vegas wouldn’t have been built without all those “sweetheart” loans from the unions, right?

America’s strength has always been her ability to innovate and reinvent herself. Look at the Silicon Valley and get a sense of what truly makes this country strong. That’s our strength, not a bunch of overpaid whiners claiming they’re victims because Mr. Market has passed them by and selected the next winner.

Survival of the fittest, not the fattest.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=Rt.66]Once again Allen, I answered all your questions in the 17 page thread. Anyone who cares to check can read those pages and see you for the blowhard you are. I am guessing you are counting on the fact that most people won’t sift thru 17 pages to see Allen getting his ass handed to him. And thusly you think you can save face and claim you are still the MasterDebater you claimed to be.

You get shot down and you slink away and then when you think you’ve found some knew secret weapon to bolster your argument, you come back and beg for another shot. Lame!

I did throw you a bone, just to prove your lameness. After you begged and denied your ass whipping, begged and denied, I relented and responded to, and shot down, your dumb “it’s all about 30 and out” theory over in the original thread. Really your arguments are only getting weaker.

Still I bet you will outlast me and when I stop posting for a while there will be pages of Allen acting like he hasn’t lost and more Allen blather. Which will probably go uncontested as you’ve shown there is no winning with Allen, just endless do-overs until they give up and Allen wins by default.[/quote]

Rt.66: Read what I wrote below and tell me where I’m wrong. Simple as that.

How long have you been in the pocket of organized labor? Seriously. Since the 1950s, it has done more to destroy the competitiveness of this country than any other factor.

And let’s not discuss organized labor’s ties to organized crime, okay? Well, I guess one good thing is that Las Vegas wouldn’t have been built without all those “sweetheart” loans from the unions, right?

America’s strength has always been her ability to innovate and reinvent herself. Look at the Silicon Valley and get a sense of what truly makes this country strong. That’s our strength, not a bunch of overpaid whiners claiming they’re victims because Mr. Market has passed them by and selected the next winner.

Survival of the fittest, not the fattest.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=Rt.66]Once again Allen, I answered all your questions in the 17 page thread. Anyone who cares to check can read those pages and see you for the blowhard you are. I am guessing you are counting on the fact that most people won’t sift thru 17 pages to see Allen getting his ass handed to him. And thusly you think you can save face and claim you are still the MasterDebater you claimed to be.

You get shot down and you slink away and then when you think you’ve found some knew secret weapon to bolster your argument, you come back and beg for another shot. Lame!

I did throw you a bone, just to prove your lameness. After you begged and denied your ass whipping, begged and denied, I relented and responded to, and shot down, your dumb “it’s all about 30 and out” theory over in the original thread. Really your arguments are only getting weaker.

Still I bet you will outlast me and when I stop posting for a while there will be pages of Allen acting like he hasn’t lost and more Allen blather. Which will probably go uncontested as you’ve shown there is no winning with Allen, just endless do-overs until they give up and Allen wins by default.[/quote]

Rt.66: Read what I wrote below and tell me where I’m wrong. Simple as that.

How long have you been in the pocket of organized labor? Seriously. Since the 1950s, it has done more to destroy the competitiveness of this country than any other factor.

And let’s not discuss organized labor’s ties to organized crime, okay? Well, I guess one good thing is that Las Vegas wouldn’t have been built without all those “sweetheart” loans from the unions, right?

America’s strength has always been her ability to innovate and reinvent herself. Look at the Silicon Valley and get a sense of what truly makes this country strong. That’s our strength, not a bunch of overpaid whiners claiming they’re victims because Mr. Market has passed them by and selected the next winner.

Survival of the fittest, not the fattest.

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