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June 30, 2010 at 11:41 AM #574872July 1, 2010 at 3:01 PM #574510briansd1Guest
Talking about the free market, it seems to have decide that the recovery is not sustainable without government action.
Krugman has been right so far.
Economic data out today suggest economic recovery cannot continue without government help
UPDATED at 4:16 p.m. with market closing numbers:
A raft of bad economic data out this morning pushed Wall Street toward its third bad day in a row, though stocks trimmed some of their earlier losses.
A terrible home sales number combined with weak construction spending and manufacturing data paint a picture of an economy that cannot recover without a sustained and substantial infusion of government cash. Not that I’m arguing for that.
The Dow closed down .42 percent at 9,732.53.
July 1, 2010 at 3:01 PM #574607briansd1GuestTalking about the free market, it seems to have decide that the recovery is not sustainable without government action.
Krugman has been right so far.
Economic data out today suggest economic recovery cannot continue without government help
UPDATED at 4:16 p.m. with market closing numbers:
A raft of bad economic data out this morning pushed Wall Street toward its third bad day in a row, though stocks trimmed some of their earlier losses.
A terrible home sales number combined with weak construction spending and manufacturing data paint a picture of an economy that cannot recover without a sustained and substantial infusion of government cash. Not that I’m arguing for that.
The Dow closed down .42 percent at 9,732.53.
July 1, 2010 at 3:01 PM #575130briansd1GuestTalking about the free market, it seems to have decide that the recovery is not sustainable without government action.
Krugman has been right so far.
Economic data out today suggest economic recovery cannot continue without government help
UPDATED at 4:16 p.m. with market closing numbers:
A raft of bad economic data out this morning pushed Wall Street toward its third bad day in a row, though stocks trimmed some of their earlier losses.
A terrible home sales number combined with weak construction spending and manufacturing data paint a picture of an economy that cannot recover without a sustained and substantial infusion of government cash. Not that I’m arguing for that.
The Dow closed down .42 percent at 9,732.53.
July 1, 2010 at 3:01 PM #575237briansd1GuestTalking about the free market, it seems to have decide that the recovery is not sustainable without government action.
Krugman has been right so far.
Economic data out today suggest economic recovery cannot continue without government help
UPDATED at 4:16 p.m. with market closing numbers:
A raft of bad economic data out this morning pushed Wall Street toward its third bad day in a row, though stocks trimmed some of their earlier losses.
A terrible home sales number combined with weak construction spending and manufacturing data paint a picture of an economy that cannot recover without a sustained and substantial infusion of government cash. Not that I’m arguing for that.
The Dow closed down .42 percent at 9,732.53.
July 1, 2010 at 3:01 PM #575536briansd1GuestTalking about the free market, it seems to have decide that the recovery is not sustainable without government action.
Krugman has been right so far.
Economic data out today suggest economic recovery cannot continue without government help
UPDATED at 4:16 p.m. with market closing numbers:
A raft of bad economic data out this morning pushed Wall Street toward its third bad day in a row, though stocks trimmed some of their earlier losses.
A terrible home sales number combined with weak construction spending and manufacturing data paint a picture of an economy that cannot recover without a sustained and substantial infusion of government cash. Not that I’m arguing for that.
The Dow closed down .42 percent at 9,732.53.
July 1, 2010 at 5:12 PM #574555AKParticipantFalse dichotomy.
Is it sustainable *with* government action?
Is the government action needed to sustain indications of a recovery sustainable itself?
Not that I’m against a stimulus … but I do think we need to be asking different questions.
July 1, 2010 at 5:12 PM #574652AKParticipantFalse dichotomy.
Is it sustainable *with* government action?
Is the government action needed to sustain indications of a recovery sustainable itself?
Not that I’m against a stimulus … but I do think we need to be asking different questions.
July 1, 2010 at 5:12 PM #575175AKParticipantFalse dichotomy.
Is it sustainable *with* government action?
Is the government action needed to sustain indications of a recovery sustainable itself?
Not that I’m against a stimulus … but I do think we need to be asking different questions.
July 1, 2010 at 5:12 PM #575283AKParticipantFalse dichotomy.
Is it sustainable *with* government action?
Is the government action needed to sustain indications of a recovery sustainable itself?
Not that I’m against a stimulus … but I do think we need to be asking different questions.
July 1, 2010 at 5:12 PM #575582AKParticipantFalse dichotomy.
Is it sustainable *with* government action?
Is the government action needed to sustain indications of a recovery sustainable itself?
Not that I’m against a stimulus … but I do think we need to be asking different questions.
July 2, 2010 at 8:18 AM #574750briansd1Guest[quote=AK]False dichotomy.
Is it sustainable *with* government action?
Is the government action needed to sustain indications of a recovery sustainable itself?
Not that I’m against a stimulus … but I do think we need to be asking different questions.[/quote]
Yes, but those questions would be more long term.
We need to get through the current hardship.
The Dow well under 10,000.
– How much lower would stocks have fallen without all the bailouts?
– How much economic output would have been sacrificed with zero government intervention.
– How much more wealth would have been lost?
– And how much poorer of a society would we all have been?July 2, 2010 at 8:18 AM #574847briansd1Guest[quote=AK]False dichotomy.
Is it sustainable *with* government action?
Is the government action needed to sustain indications of a recovery sustainable itself?
Not that I’m against a stimulus … but I do think we need to be asking different questions.[/quote]
Yes, but those questions would be more long term.
We need to get through the current hardship.
The Dow well under 10,000.
– How much lower would stocks have fallen without all the bailouts?
– How much economic output would have been sacrificed with zero government intervention.
– How much more wealth would have been lost?
– And how much poorer of a society would we all have been?July 2, 2010 at 8:18 AM #575372briansd1Guest[quote=AK]False dichotomy.
Is it sustainable *with* government action?
Is the government action needed to sustain indications of a recovery sustainable itself?
Not that I’m against a stimulus … but I do think we need to be asking different questions.[/quote]
Yes, but those questions would be more long term.
We need to get through the current hardship.
The Dow well under 10,000.
– How much lower would stocks have fallen without all the bailouts?
– How much economic output would have been sacrificed with zero government intervention.
– How much more wealth would have been lost?
– And how much poorer of a society would we all have been?July 2, 2010 at 8:18 AM #575479briansd1Guest[quote=AK]False dichotomy.
Is it sustainable *with* government action?
Is the government action needed to sustain indications of a recovery sustainable itself?
Not that I’m against a stimulus … but I do think we need to be asking different questions.[/quote]
Yes, but those questions would be more long term.
We need to get through the current hardship.
The Dow well under 10,000.
– How much lower would stocks have fallen without all the bailouts?
– How much economic output would have been sacrificed with zero government intervention.
– How much more wealth would have been lost?
– And how much poorer of a society would we all have been? -
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