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July 28, 2008 at 6:40 PM #248594July 28, 2008 at 8:29 PM #248406
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ParticipantDWCAP–
Your post about BC pills just strengthened our resolve against choosing Kaiser. I’m trying not to get political here, but Kaiser no doubt pays for brand-name Viagra. Our daughter started to get severe acne at age 15-16. I was right there in the examining room when a Sharp dermalogist told us that the first line of defense for acne these days in women is a particular brand name of BC pills. These stopped the breakouts or she would be well on the way to being like my older sister, who has acne scars because, when we were teens, the advice was to avoid chocolate (wrong), wash your face every half-hour (wrong), and sit under a sunlamp at the derms’s office (also wrong).
Thanks for the warning.
July 28, 2008 at 8:29 PM #248563TuVu
ParticipantDWCAP–
Your post about BC pills just strengthened our resolve against choosing Kaiser. I’m trying not to get political here, but Kaiser no doubt pays for brand-name Viagra. Our daughter started to get severe acne at age 15-16. I was right there in the examining room when a Sharp dermalogist told us that the first line of defense for acne these days in women is a particular brand name of BC pills. These stopped the breakouts or she would be well on the way to being like my older sister, who has acne scars because, when we were teens, the advice was to avoid chocolate (wrong), wash your face every half-hour (wrong), and sit under a sunlamp at the derms’s office (also wrong).
Thanks for the warning.
July 28, 2008 at 8:29 PM #248567TuVu
ParticipantDWCAP–
Your post about BC pills just strengthened our resolve against choosing Kaiser. I’m trying not to get political here, but Kaiser no doubt pays for brand-name Viagra. Our daughter started to get severe acne at age 15-16. I was right there in the examining room when a Sharp dermalogist told us that the first line of defense for acne these days in women is a particular brand name of BC pills. These stopped the breakouts or she would be well on the way to being like my older sister, who has acne scars because, when we were teens, the advice was to avoid chocolate (wrong), wash your face every half-hour (wrong), and sit under a sunlamp at the derms’s office (also wrong).
Thanks for the warning.
July 28, 2008 at 8:29 PM #248626TuVu
ParticipantDWCAP–
Your post about BC pills just strengthened our resolve against choosing Kaiser. I’m trying not to get political here, but Kaiser no doubt pays for brand-name Viagra. Our daughter started to get severe acne at age 15-16. I was right there in the examining room when a Sharp dermalogist told us that the first line of defense for acne these days in women is a particular brand name of BC pills. These stopped the breakouts or she would be well on the way to being like my older sister, who has acne scars because, when we were teens, the advice was to avoid chocolate (wrong), wash your face every half-hour (wrong), and sit under a sunlamp at the derms’s office (also wrong).
Thanks for the warning.
July 28, 2008 at 8:29 PM #248634TuVu
ParticipantDWCAP–
Your post about BC pills just strengthened our resolve against choosing Kaiser. I’m trying not to get political here, but Kaiser no doubt pays for brand-name Viagra. Our daughter started to get severe acne at age 15-16. I was right there in the examining room when a Sharp dermalogist told us that the first line of defense for acne these days in women is a particular brand name of BC pills. These stopped the breakouts or she would be well on the way to being like my older sister, who has acne scars because, when we were teens, the advice was to avoid chocolate (wrong), wash your face every half-hour (wrong), and sit under a sunlamp at the derms’s office (also wrong).
Thanks for the warning.
July 28, 2008 at 9:12 PM #248451ocrenter
Participantdwcap, there’s always other alternatives if low estrogen birth control is what your gf is looking for. she can discuss with her ob/gyn at kaiser and they can always do an exception code if they feel medically the medication makes sense.
the point here is there’s a lot more checks and balances in kaiser as opposed to regular ppo plans.
as for edna’s blanket anti-generic sentiment. remember we are all paying for her preferance for Branded medicine here.
except here’s another example:
after prilosec ran out of patent, AstraZeneca produced prilosec’s isomer, nexium along with the full on “Purple Pill” ad campaign.
there is no scientific evidence that nexium is really better than prilosec. annedotally, nexium might occasionally allow someone with reflux to continue to enjoy Mexican food with beer better than prilosec.
cost of nexium? $1840 per year per patient.
cost of prilosec? $240 per year per patient.
2006 total sale was $5 billion.
had all that folks took prilosec generic instead of nexium, we would have saved $4.4 billion.
I can honestly say no lives were saved or made better by spending that extra $4.4 billion using nexium instead of prilosec.
the choice of Brand vs generic, be it birth control or acid relief, does make a huge difference in controlling health care cost. the question now is, do you want your doctor to make that decision or do you want to have things get to a point where we would have no choice but hand that decision to the government?
July 28, 2008 at 9:12 PM #248608ocrenter
Participantdwcap, there’s always other alternatives if low estrogen birth control is what your gf is looking for. she can discuss with her ob/gyn at kaiser and they can always do an exception code if they feel medically the medication makes sense.
the point here is there’s a lot more checks and balances in kaiser as opposed to regular ppo plans.
as for edna’s blanket anti-generic sentiment. remember we are all paying for her preferance for Branded medicine here.
except here’s another example:
after prilosec ran out of patent, AstraZeneca produced prilosec’s isomer, nexium along with the full on “Purple Pill” ad campaign.
there is no scientific evidence that nexium is really better than prilosec. annedotally, nexium might occasionally allow someone with reflux to continue to enjoy Mexican food with beer better than prilosec.
cost of nexium? $1840 per year per patient.
cost of prilosec? $240 per year per patient.
2006 total sale was $5 billion.
had all that folks took prilosec generic instead of nexium, we would have saved $4.4 billion.
I can honestly say no lives were saved or made better by spending that extra $4.4 billion using nexium instead of prilosec.
the choice of Brand vs generic, be it birth control or acid relief, does make a huge difference in controlling health care cost. the question now is, do you want your doctor to make that decision or do you want to have things get to a point where we would have no choice but hand that decision to the government?
July 28, 2008 at 9:12 PM #248612ocrenter
Participantdwcap, there’s always other alternatives if low estrogen birth control is what your gf is looking for. she can discuss with her ob/gyn at kaiser and they can always do an exception code if they feel medically the medication makes sense.
the point here is there’s a lot more checks and balances in kaiser as opposed to regular ppo plans.
as for edna’s blanket anti-generic sentiment. remember we are all paying for her preferance for Branded medicine here.
except here’s another example:
after prilosec ran out of patent, AstraZeneca produced prilosec’s isomer, nexium along with the full on “Purple Pill” ad campaign.
there is no scientific evidence that nexium is really better than prilosec. annedotally, nexium might occasionally allow someone with reflux to continue to enjoy Mexican food with beer better than prilosec.
cost of nexium? $1840 per year per patient.
cost of prilosec? $240 per year per patient.
2006 total sale was $5 billion.
had all that folks took prilosec generic instead of nexium, we would have saved $4.4 billion.
I can honestly say no lives were saved or made better by spending that extra $4.4 billion using nexium instead of prilosec.
the choice of Brand vs generic, be it birth control or acid relief, does make a huge difference in controlling health care cost. the question now is, do you want your doctor to make that decision or do you want to have things get to a point where we would have no choice but hand that decision to the government?
July 28, 2008 at 9:12 PM #248671ocrenter
Participantdwcap, there’s always other alternatives if low estrogen birth control is what your gf is looking for. she can discuss with her ob/gyn at kaiser and they can always do an exception code if they feel medically the medication makes sense.
the point here is there’s a lot more checks and balances in kaiser as opposed to regular ppo plans.
as for edna’s blanket anti-generic sentiment. remember we are all paying for her preferance for Branded medicine here.
except here’s another example:
after prilosec ran out of patent, AstraZeneca produced prilosec’s isomer, nexium along with the full on “Purple Pill” ad campaign.
there is no scientific evidence that nexium is really better than prilosec. annedotally, nexium might occasionally allow someone with reflux to continue to enjoy Mexican food with beer better than prilosec.
cost of nexium? $1840 per year per patient.
cost of prilosec? $240 per year per patient.
2006 total sale was $5 billion.
had all that folks took prilosec generic instead of nexium, we would have saved $4.4 billion.
I can honestly say no lives were saved or made better by spending that extra $4.4 billion using nexium instead of prilosec.
the choice of Brand vs generic, be it birth control or acid relief, does make a huge difference in controlling health care cost. the question now is, do you want your doctor to make that decision or do you want to have things get to a point where we would have no choice but hand that decision to the government?
July 28, 2008 at 9:12 PM #248680ocrenter
Participantdwcap, there’s always other alternatives if low estrogen birth control is what your gf is looking for. she can discuss with her ob/gyn at kaiser and they can always do an exception code if they feel medically the medication makes sense.
the point here is there’s a lot more checks and balances in kaiser as opposed to regular ppo plans.
as for edna’s blanket anti-generic sentiment. remember we are all paying for her preferance for Branded medicine here.
except here’s another example:
after prilosec ran out of patent, AstraZeneca produced prilosec’s isomer, nexium along with the full on “Purple Pill” ad campaign.
there is no scientific evidence that nexium is really better than prilosec. annedotally, nexium might occasionally allow someone with reflux to continue to enjoy Mexican food with beer better than prilosec.
cost of nexium? $1840 per year per patient.
cost of prilosec? $240 per year per patient.
2006 total sale was $5 billion.
had all that folks took prilosec generic instead of nexium, we would have saved $4.4 billion.
I can honestly say no lives were saved or made better by spending that extra $4.4 billion using nexium instead of prilosec.
the choice of Brand vs generic, be it birth control or acid relief, does make a huge difference in controlling health care cost. the question now is, do you want your doctor to make that decision or do you want to have things get to a point where we would have no choice but hand that decision to the government?
July 28, 2008 at 11:34 PM #248525AK
ParticipantIIRC Kaiser doesn’t cover Viagra or other medications for treatment of erectile dysfunction. (Unless your employer pays extra for the sexual dysfunction coverage rider.)
July 28, 2008 at 11:34 PM #248682AK
ParticipantIIRC Kaiser doesn’t cover Viagra or other medications for treatment of erectile dysfunction. (Unless your employer pays extra for the sexual dysfunction coverage rider.)
July 28, 2008 at 11:34 PM #248688AK
ParticipantIIRC Kaiser doesn’t cover Viagra or other medications for treatment of erectile dysfunction. (Unless your employer pays extra for the sexual dysfunction coverage rider.)
July 28, 2008 at 11:34 PM #248747AK
ParticipantIIRC Kaiser doesn’t cover Viagra or other medications for treatment of erectile dysfunction. (Unless your employer pays extra for the sexual dysfunction coverage rider.)
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