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January 5, 2008 at 9:53 AM #11412January 5, 2008 at 10:04 AM #129898
barnaby33
ParticipantI think that what you will find is that for the most part all new houses have defects. Its not rocket science but still the earth shifts and people make mistakes.
That having been said, most of the construction done during the boom years was rushed. Quality control was lower and the skill of the people doing the construction was lower as well. Even builders for whom quality is their reputation, the pressure to build fast and profit during the boom was overwhelming. When you couple that with the scarcity of qualified workers, I think you’ll find that its better to buy houses build in between booms.
Josh
January 5, 2008 at 10:04 AM #130175barnaby33
ParticipantI think that what you will find is that for the most part all new houses have defects. Its not rocket science but still the earth shifts and people make mistakes.
That having been said, most of the construction done during the boom years was rushed. Quality control was lower and the skill of the people doing the construction was lower as well. Even builders for whom quality is their reputation, the pressure to build fast and profit during the boom was overwhelming. When you couple that with the scarcity of qualified workers, I think you’ll find that its better to buy houses build in between booms.
Josh
January 5, 2008 at 10:04 AM #130072barnaby33
ParticipantI think that what you will find is that for the most part all new houses have defects. Its not rocket science but still the earth shifts and people make mistakes.
That having been said, most of the construction done during the boom years was rushed. Quality control was lower and the skill of the people doing the construction was lower as well. Even builders for whom quality is their reputation, the pressure to build fast and profit during the boom was overwhelming. When you couple that with the scarcity of qualified workers, I think you’ll find that its better to buy houses build in between booms.
Josh
January 5, 2008 at 10:04 AM #130075barnaby33
ParticipantI think that what you will find is that for the most part all new houses have defects. Its not rocket science but still the earth shifts and people make mistakes.
That having been said, most of the construction done during the boom years was rushed. Quality control was lower and the skill of the people doing the construction was lower as well. Even builders for whom quality is their reputation, the pressure to build fast and profit during the boom was overwhelming. When you couple that with the scarcity of qualified workers, I think you’ll find that its better to buy houses build in between booms.
Josh
January 5, 2008 at 10:04 AM #130144barnaby33
ParticipantI think that what you will find is that for the most part all new houses have defects. Its not rocket science but still the earth shifts and people make mistakes.
That having been said, most of the construction done during the boom years was rushed. Quality control was lower and the skill of the people doing the construction was lower as well. Even builders for whom quality is their reputation, the pressure to build fast and profit during the boom was overwhelming. When you couple that with the scarcity of qualified workers, I think you’ll find that its better to buy houses build in between booms.
Josh
January 5, 2008 at 10:16 AM #129908mixxalot
ParticipantOlder homes better construction
My sisters hubby works in the construction trades and was telling me that homes built in the 1970-1980’s are more solid than new homes built.
January 5, 2008 at 10:16 AM #130185mixxalot
ParticipantOlder homes better construction
My sisters hubby works in the construction trades and was telling me that homes built in the 1970-1980’s are more solid than new homes built.
January 5, 2008 at 10:16 AM #130082mixxalot
ParticipantOlder homes better construction
My sisters hubby works in the construction trades and was telling me that homes built in the 1970-1980’s are more solid than new homes built.
January 5, 2008 at 10:16 AM #130085mixxalot
ParticipantOlder homes better construction
My sisters hubby works in the construction trades and was telling me that homes built in the 1970-1980’s are more solid than new homes built.
January 5, 2008 at 10:16 AM #130154mixxalot
ParticipantOlder homes better construction
My sisters hubby works in the construction trades and was telling me that homes built in the 1970-1980’s are more solid than new homes built.
January 5, 2008 at 10:24 AM #130195temeculaguy
ParticipantI don’t doubt your friend had a bad experience but that is not the national reputation for that company. KB probably builds the lowest quality in this region, but they are the cheapest so you get what you pay for. I’d lump Centex, Standard Pacific, D.R. horton and ,most of the rest of the Nationals together, they have high end projects and low end projects. Around here, Pulte has only built the higher end stuff and from the few times I’ve looked at their models, it was very well built. They along with Lennar went with a no options policy (Pulte built half of Morgan Valley) where everything is included, granite, stainless, ceiling fans in every room (not just the outlet but the fan), higher end flooring, even the little things like christmas tree outlets on the second floor, phone and cable in every room, etc. It’s just a strategy but I like it. Mcmillan is not a national builder, sometimes the regional or local builders are better, sometimes they are not. It varies too much for any one builder to the BMW and another to be the Yugo of the industry. If I had to pick a BMW, funny thing is that I would have said Pulte, so that really will confuse you since your friend hates them. You really want a perfect house, find a local builder with a sterling reputation amongst other builders.
BTW, the top three builders in 2006 according to J.D.Power consumer satisfaction polls, covering 12 large metro areas was 1. Del Webb (owned by Pulte) 2. Pulte and 3. Shea Triliogy
January 5, 2008 at 10:24 AM #130164temeculaguy
ParticipantI don’t doubt your friend had a bad experience but that is not the national reputation for that company. KB probably builds the lowest quality in this region, but they are the cheapest so you get what you pay for. I’d lump Centex, Standard Pacific, D.R. horton and ,most of the rest of the Nationals together, they have high end projects and low end projects. Around here, Pulte has only built the higher end stuff and from the few times I’ve looked at their models, it was very well built. They along with Lennar went with a no options policy (Pulte built half of Morgan Valley) where everything is included, granite, stainless, ceiling fans in every room (not just the outlet but the fan), higher end flooring, even the little things like christmas tree outlets on the second floor, phone and cable in every room, etc. It’s just a strategy but I like it. Mcmillan is not a national builder, sometimes the regional or local builders are better, sometimes they are not. It varies too much for any one builder to the BMW and another to be the Yugo of the industry. If I had to pick a BMW, funny thing is that I would have said Pulte, so that really will confuse you since your friend hates them. You really want a perfect house, find a local builder with a sterling reputation amongst other builders.
BTW, the top three builders in 2006 according to J.D.Power consumer satisfaction polls, covering 12 large metro areas was 1. Del Webb (owned by Pulte) 2. Pulte and 3. Shea Triliogy
January 5, 2008 at 10:24 AM #130096temeculaguy
ParticipantI don’t doubt your friend had a bad experience but that is not the national reputation for that company. KB probably builds the lowest quality in this region, but they are the cheapest so you get what you pay for. I’d lump Centex, Standard Pacific, D.R. horton and ,most of the rest of the Nationals together, they have high end projects and low end projects. Around here, Pulte has only built the higher end stuff and from the few times I’ve looked at their models, it was very well built. They along with Lennar went with a no options policy (Pulte built half of Morgan Valley) where everything is included, granite, stainless, ceiling fans in every room (not just the outlet but the fan), higher end flooring, even the little things like christmas tree outlets on the second floor, phone and cable in every room, etc. It’s just a strategy but I like it. Mcmillan is not a national builder, sometimes the regional or local builders are better, sometimes they are not. It varies too much for any one builder to the BMW and another to be the Yugo of the industry. If I had to pick a BMW, funny thing is that I would have said Pulte, so that really will confuse you since your friend hates them. You really want a perfect house, find a local builder with a sterling reputation amongst other builders.
BTW, the top three builders in 2006 according to J.D.Power consumer satisfaction polls, covering 12 large metro areas was 1. Del Webb (owned by Pulte) 2. Pulte and 3. Shea Triliogy
January 5, 2008 at 10:24 AM #130092temeculaguy
ParticipantI don’t doubt your friend had a bad experience but that is not the national reputation for that company. KB probably builds the lowest quality in this region, but they are the cheapest so you get what you pay for. I’d lump Centex, Standard Pacific, D.R. horton and ,most of the rest of the Nationals together, they have high end projects and low end projects. Around here, Pulte has only built the higher end stuff and from the few times I’ve looked at their models, it was very well built. They along with Lennar went with a no options policy (Pulte built half of Morgan Valley) where everything is included, granite, stainless, ceiling fans in every room (not just the outlet but the fan), higher end flooring, even the little things like christmas tree outlets on the second floor, phone and cable in every room, etc. It’s just a strategy but I like it. Mcmillan is not a national builder, sometimes the regional or local builders are better, sometimes they are not. It varies too much for any one builder to the BMW and another to be the Yugo of the industry. If I had to pick a BMW, funny thing is that I would have said Pulte, so that really will confuse you since your friend hates them. You really want a perfect house, find a local builder with a sterling reputation amongst other builders.
BTW, the top three builders in 2006 according to J.D.Power consumer satisfaction polls, covering 12 large metro areas was 1. Del Webb (owned by Pulte) 2. Pulte and 3. Shea Triliogy
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