Irony: Trump the liberal

[FlyerInHi]

I almost single handlely gentrified the community. The drug dealers, deplorables and their insolent kids are gone. The low-lives still around are on the downlow as they should be.
Live-and-let-live is a 2-way strreet and requires that people be discreet and considerate.

The other day, some loser woman yelled at me claiming she will grow old in place. We’ll see about that… Her court date is coming up.

Landlords are enjoying higher rents, thanks to me. Money, money, money. Mini Trump, me.

[spdrun]

An old woman being evicted probably doesn’t have much to lose. Also, you probably hate kids because no one will let you shoot your seed into them… you’ll never have any unless you donate to a sperm bank.

[FlyerInHi]

Haha. I can get married any day. Women are falling all over me, believe me! Unfortunately women who are up to standard have baggage such as family problems. And women of good family have their own issues. Ahh, annoying!

[spdrun]

Everyone has baggage … women are humans, not show puppies who need to meet standards. I can picture you … “left nipple is inverted, minus 10 points. … nose crooked, minus 5 … … nope, not marriage material.”

[scaredyclassic]

I’m more of a wabi sabi man myself. My wife got 25 points for an extremely crooked front tooth, like almost a 45 degree angle crowded mouth. I found it very attractive, kind of working class poor?

Later when we had money she got braces. I objected. Now its straight. I preferred it crooked.

[svelte]

All right, Trump now has almost 4 years under his belt – let’s see how things went!

From Dec 24, 2018:
[quote=svelte][quote=EconProf]
OK, here’s the spike: The growth rate during Obama’s 8 years averaged under 2%. This despite the historical tendency for deep recessions to be followed by strong recoveries. Under Trump the annual growth rate is approximately 3% per year, a difference that has a big long run impact over time.
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Obama’s 8 years average out to under 2% because of that disastrous first year trying to recover from the previous administration. Otherwise it would have been higher (see chart below).

Trump’s growth rate appears to be on a downward trajectory now, I’ll continue to monitor it into his 3rd and 4th year.
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Obama’s years were 2008-2016
Trump’s are 2009-2020

[img_assist|nid=27252|title=US GDP Growth 2009-2020|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=466|height=346]

[svelte]

Let’s see how this one is going.

From Jan 5, 2019:
[quote=svelte][quote=EconProf]More good economic news from the Trump economy that liberals should be cheering.
The Labor Department just reported a jump in jobs of 312,000 for the most recent month, plus an upward revision of 58,000 for the previous month.
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That is one piece of good news from the Trump administration.

Here’s how it stacks up to past presidents:

[img_assist|nid=26745|title=US Job Growth by Presidents Carter through Trump|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=466|height=291]

Both Carter and Clinton had higher job growth numbers.[/quote]

This one sure went in the dumper.

[img_assist|nid=27253|title=Job Growth By President, 4 years into Trump’s presidency|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=466|height=267]

[svelte]

[quote=svelte]
Obama’s years were 2008-2016
Trump’s are 2009-2020
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Obviously I meant Trump’s are 2017-2020.

[Hobie]

C-mon man! You are way smarter than to post this. I see a positive trend ( ~ 5%), pandemic, then another positive trend (~7%) while still in pandemic. And remember the Obama jobs were a lot of part time and service vs. mfg. jobs. MAGA

[svelte]

[quote=Hobie]C-mon man! You are way smarter than to post this. I see a positive trend ( ~ 5%), pandemic, then another positive trend (~7%) while still in pandemic. And remember the Obama jobs were a lot of part time and service vs. mfg. jobs. MAGA[/quote]

lol!

[scaredyclassic]

Caligula tried to make his horse elected a senator.

Republicans try to make a jackass president.

History doesnt repeat itself but it rhymes

[svelte]

[quote=scaredyclassic]Caligula tried to make his horse elected a senator.

Republicans try to make a jackass president.

History doesnt repeat itself but it rhymes[/quote]

Classic!

[EconProf]

I am surprised to see this post of mine from over two years ago revived. Let’s review the original theme and see how it has fared over these two plus years…that theme being that Trump has upended the political scene by accomplishing, or at least making progress on, those goals that liberals claim to want.
Up until the Chinese virus hit us, the economy was roaring ahead, clearly outpacing the GNP growth rates of the Obama years. The progress was fastest for America’s lower income classes, especially minorities. The unemployment rate was so low that employers were hiring and training those marginal workers and training them, perhaps for their first job ever.
Trump’s foreign policy accomplishments are numerous–one reason the biased media doesn’t much talk about them…such as the extraordinary rapproachment between Israel and its Arab neighbors against Iran. Past administrations, of both parties, have been trying to do this for decades.
Economic progress stopped with COVID, so any recent economic trends mean little. But the leftist-inspired lockdowns that disproportionately hurt the lowest-paid workers, clearly hurt the economy and thus Trump’s reelection prospects.
The upshot is that Trump is now a working-class idol, and will get huge gains among Blacks, Hispanics, and the working class, thus upending historic political alignments. He is not a “liberal”, but has achieved what liberals claimed to want in many areas.

[spdrun]

^^^

Trump’s supposed economic progress (if it wasn’t just an extension of Obama’s run up) came at the cost of gutting the institutions that were designed to protect us from difficulties like COVID. He created an extremely fragile economic situation … I flew coast-to-coast in late January, and about 10% of people on the flight were masked up. There was enough public concern about COVID about a month and a half before it exploded to warrant a government reaction.

How about if the CDC had done its job in Jan-Feb? Ramped up production of tests, recommended masks for everyone, ramped up mask production, backstopped the hospital system with temporary hospitals, recommended milder (but still effective) physical distancing measures and work-from-home for those who could, paid for quarantine for people coming from abroad.

The plans were written in case of a 1918-type flu epidemic, so we did have plans in place for a contagious airborne virus. We just chose to ignore it on the Federal level (Trump didn’t want a “scary” situation on his hands) and not even provide guidance to states.

Working class idol? The jobs worst hit by the COVID epidemic were working-class jobs that couldn’t be “remoted out.”

[svelte]

[quote=EconProf]
Up until the Chinese virus hit us, the economy was roaring ahead, clearly outpacing the GNP growth rates of the Obama
years.[/quote]

lol, so you choose to completely ignore the hard numbers I posted and resort to generalizations.

Here are the numbers from the US and IMF:
Obama
2009 – -2.54
2010 – 2.56
2011 – 1.55
2012 – 2.25
2013 – 1.84
2014 – 2.53
2015 – 2.91
2016 – 1.64

Trump
2017 – 2.37
2018 – 2.93
2019 – 2.33
2020 – -5.91

Obama averaged 1.311

Trump averaged 0.43

You chose to ignore that and instead posted a generalization and excused Trump’s performance. Funny you didn’t make any allowances for Obama’s.

I would submit that the first year of a president’s term was based on the prior president, so it would all be shifted a year which would give Obama 2.2 and Trump 1.02

Not exactly a stellar story!

And yes we can blame Trump for this year – his floundering on a pandemic response and outright lies land this firmly in his lap. You know, the buck stops here thing? Only Trump doesn’t take responsibility for anything. Unless it’s positive, then he’ll take credit whether he did it or not.

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