iOS 6 Map

[ocrenter]

Just uploaded iOS 6 and already seeing a bunch of mistakes.

for example, did you know Scripps Ranch is actually Eastern San Diego? PQ is really Northeastern SD? I had no idea south side of 4S Ranch is really Carmel Mountain Ranch. And they moved San Pasqual all the way to just adjacent to the I15. And sorry earlyretirement, Santaluz doesn’t even exist.

They at least got most of the hospitals right, except for Palomar Hospital, it is still at the old site in downtown Escondido.

looks like the map itself is circa 2009.

they should have called it iOS 6 Map, beta edition

[UCGal]

I’m hearing gripes from friends who live back east that it doesn’t support public transport. That’s huge if you live/work in a big city like NYC, DC, or Philly. Google maps has that option and will route based on next subway/metro/SEPTA train. I used it heavily when we were in NYC 2 years ago…. and used it again last year to get around center city Philly by bus.

[an]

[livinincali]

Apple maps was probably a dumb decision by Apple, but it will get better over time and their user base will just learn to accept the beta quality for now. Apple isn’t going to reinvent the way people use maps with it’s mapping solution so I really don’t see the point. Use one of the numerous other mature third party vendors if you hate Google that much. Of course we’ll probably see Apple file patents and claim it invented mapping for mobile devices so everybody needs to pay up.

[Coronita]

I love how apple’s arrogance is again showing just like their decision back in the 80ies to make every mac dependent on peripherals that were generally incompatible with everyone else….

History does repeat itself…

Iphone 5 users can also enjoy paying $35+ for a cable too… And good luck with getting a third party cable, if they did put a auth/encryption chip in the port….

Lol… Bend over iphone 5 lovers…

http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/09/21/dont-buy-third-party-iphone-5-lightning-cables-yet/

While Apple doesn’t have any extra Lightning cables to sell for the moment, it’s probably not a good idea to buy third-party cables instead thanks to a chip inside the new connector.

According to Apple Insider, Apple’s Lightning cables contain what looks like authentication chips inside the tiny housing. Those chips are likely the cause for the high price, and could make unauthorized third-party cables unusable.

The authentication chips means third party cables with the chips simply won’t work with the new iPhone 5. The chips lie between the USB power pin and the V+ wire. To the average user that means without the chip, no power will flow from the USB port into the device plugged into the cable.

Lol… At least with a high quality razor, you get a razor and some free blades. Or with an HP printer, you get a cheap printer with a few starter cartridges…

Apple’s managed to convince consumers to bend over for buying the razor…And then bend over again to buy all the accessories around it…. Lol…

[spdrun]

OTOH the 9-pin connector appears a lot more robust than either micro-USB or the current multi (thin) pin connector. Yeah, the lockdown thing is stupid, but that seems to be Apple’s way.

Maybe it wouldn’t have been if Jobs had the good grace to resign before he went totally senile.

[earlyretirement]

I agree the Apple Maps really sucks. I would have held off on upgrading my Ipad if I knew they would have automatically deleted Google Maps and Youtube.

I love my Macbook Pro and my ipad but not impressed with the iphone 5.

[svelte]

Was trying to find my way back to RR airport in DC this week. My passenger pulled out his iPhone with iOS 6 and tried to get directions by saying “directions to Ronald Reagan International Airport” into the phone. I had made it back to the airport before his phone coughed up the first voice instruction!

[an]

[quote=svelte]Was trying to find my way back to RR airport in DC this week. My passenger pulled out his iPhone with iOS 6 and tried to get directions by saying “directions to Ronald Reagan International Airport” into the phone. I had made it back to the airport before his phone coughed up the first voice instruction![/quote]
But if you talk to any iPhone fan, they’ll tell you how smooth and pretty and map UI is. They’ll even show you the 3D map feature that’s only available in some cities (SD is not one of those cities). They’ll just brush aside the data problem and say it’ll get better with time.

[Coronita]

iphone 5 user joke…

So an iPhone 5 user walks into a bar….
or restaurant.. or library…or subway… Well, shit, who knows where he really is, because he is iLost…

[an]

[quote=flu]iphone 5 user joke…

So an iPhone 5 user walks into a bar….
or restaurant.. or library…or subway… Well, shit, who knows where he really is, because he is iLost…[/quote]
But, he’s lost in style 😀

[an]

hahahha: http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=27809

[quote=Tim Cook]While we’re improving Maps, you can try alternatives by downloading map apps from the App Store like Bing, MapQuest and Waze, or use Google or Nokia maps by going to their websites and creating an icon on your home screen to their web app.[/quote]

[all]

[quote=AN]hahahha: http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=27809

[quote=Tim Cook]While we’re improving Maps, you can try alternatives by downloading map apps from the App Store like Bing, MapQuest and Waze, or use Google or Nokia maps by going to their websites and creating an icon on your home screen to their web app.[/quote][/quote]

Right. So what’s the big deal wrt maps? It’s not like the built-in app is your only option. The old licensing term with Google expired, Google did not want to allow voice/turn-by-turn, Apple did not want to license maps without it and released what they had. If anything it’s a gain for everybody since Google is accelerating release schedule for vector maps and migrating some of the Google Earth technology to Google Maps. Competition is good. It leads to better products (like I care) and more importantly to more jobs and higher wages within the industry.

[an]

[quote=craptcha]Right. So what’s the big deal wrt maps? It’s not like the built-in app is your only option. The old licensing term with Google expired, Google did not want to allow voice/turn-by-turn, Apple did not want to license maps without it and released what they had. If anything it’s a gain for everybody since Google is accelerating release schedule for vector maps and migrating some of the Google Earth technology to Google Maps. Competition is good. It leads to better products (like I care) and more importantly to more jobs and higher wages within the industry.[/quote]
It’s not a big deal. It’s just a kink in Apple’s armor. BTW, your logic is a little contradicting. If the built-in app is not your only option (which it’s not), then why didn’t they just keep Google map around w/out turn by turn and have its user buy a number of apps out there that does turn by turn. Or, they can easily just wave the 30% fee for the best turn-by-turn app and make it free for its user, by either bundling it into the OS or as a free download. However, that didn’t happen. My guess is, they thought they can swing it on their own and they faltered this time.

No one is saying that competition is not good. We’re (at least I am) just making fun of the fact that Apple releases a half baked maps app. They could either a) start their own map a few years earlier or b) they could have bought garmin, tom-tom, etc. and let it baked better before releasing it to the public. BTW, it’s not like Apple is an under dog, or a start up, that’s disrupting the mapping landscape. This would only be good for iOS users (when Apple full bake their maps). There’s no chance Apple will release their maps app on Android and WP8. So, the “Competition is good” logic is not really applicable here.

[all]

Unfortunately, I don’t know what transpired during the negotiations. Obviously Apple started working on the mapping solution in 2010, if not sooner, by making a couple of acquisitions. I believe the data is coming from tom-tom (garmin does not own data). If I remember it correctly there are only three places where you can get data – tom-tom, nokia and google.

Releasing half-baked product is not that rare in consumer software. Google checkout is my favorite – 5 years later you still can’t dump order details.

Competition is good applies and I already told you why – Google is releasing vector maps ahead of schedule, adding earth functionality to maps and people with experience in mapping software and cartography in general are in high(er) demand.

I did not try the new maps app. Maybe I’ll change my mind when I do, but based on what I saw/red I agree with Woz who said it is a non-issue (i.e. there are serious issues with iOS 6 and dev tools/environment, maps-gate is not one of them).

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