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March 30, 2011 at 3:36 PM #683054March 30, 2011 at 3:53 PM #681904njtosdParticipant
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My cousin’s son lives in Bloomington, IN and works for the university there. He says that one of the best places in USA to live — a cultural oasis in midwestern desert. It’s on my list of places to check out, one of these days.[/quote]Good heavens. You really do need to spend some time in the midwest. I spent the first 35 years of my life in Detroit/Ann Arbor/Chicago. I currently live 40 miles from NYC and culturally I’ve never lived in such a desert. The grocery store in Ripon, WI (birthplace of the Republican party) is a palace compared to the grocery store down the street. And I love Indiana, especially Indianapolis. (This is a beautiful picture of Monument Circle there: http://www.city-data.com/picfilesc/picc33569.php). Anyone old enough to have seen the movie “Cutters”? (Refers to the stone cutters in southern Indiana) It was filmed in Bloomington, I believe – gorgeous. Also, U of I Bloomington has a fantastic music school – according to Wikipedia, in 1981 it’s opera program was “the first non-professional company to stage an opera at the Metropolitan Opera in New York City.”
You’re kidding yourself if you believe the standard spiel about the midwest – mostly just a result of the people on the coasts patting themselves on the back, IMHO.
March 30, 2011 at 3:53 PM #681958njtosdParticipant[quote=briansd1]
My cousin’s son lives in Bloomington, IN and works for the university there. He says that one of the best places in USA to live — a cultural oasis in midwestern desert. It’s on my list of places to check out, one of these days.[/quote]Good heavens. You really do need to spend some time in the midwest. I spent the first 35 years of my life in Detroit/Ann Arbor/Chicago. I currently live 40 miles from NYC and culturally I’ve never lived in such a desert. The grocery store in Ripon, WI (birthplace of the Republican party) is a palace compared to the grocery store down the street. And I love Indiana, especially Indianapolis. (This is a beautiful picture of Monument Circle there: http://www.city-data.com/picfilesc/picc33569.php). Anyone old enough to have seen the movie “Cutters”? (Refers to the stone cutters in southern Indiana) It was filmed in Bloomington, I believe – gorgeous. Also, U of I Bloomington has a fantastic music school – according to Wikipedia, in 1981 it’s opera program was “the first non-professional company to stage an opera at the Metropolitan Opera in New York City.”
You’re kidding yourself if you believe the standard spiel about the midwest – mostly just a result of the people on the coasts patting themselves on the back, IMHO.
March 30, 2011 at 3:53 PM #682580njtosdParticipant[quote=briansd1]
My cousin’s son lives in Bloomington, IN and works for the university there. He says that one of the best places in USA to live — a cultural oasis in midwestern desert. It’s on my list of places to check out, one of these days.[/quote]Good heavens. You really do need to spend some time in the midwest. I spent the first 35 years of my life in Detroit/Ann Arbor/Chicago. I currently live 40 miles from NYC and culturally I’ve never lived in such a desert. The grocery store in Ripon, WI (birthplace of the Republican party) is a palace compared to the grocery store down the street. And I love Indiana, especially Indianapolis. (This is a beautiful picture of Monument Circle there: http://www.city-data.com/picfilesc/picc33569.php). Anyone old enough to have seen the movie “Cutters”? (Refers to the stone cutters in southern Indiana) It was filmed in Bloomington, I believe – gorgeous. Also, U of I Bloomington has a fantastic music school – according to Wikipedia, in 1981 it’s opera program was “the first non-professional company to stage an opera at the Metropolitan Opera in New York City.”
You’re kidding yourself if you believe the standard spiel about the midwest – mostly just a result of the people on the coasts patting themselves on the back, IMHO.
March 30, 2011 at 3:53 PM #682719njtosdParticipant[quote=briansd1]
My cousin’s son lives in Bloomington, IN and works for the university there. He says that one of the best places in USA to live — a cultural oasis in midwestern desert. It’s on my list of places to check out, one of these days.[/quote]Good heavens. You really do need to spend some time in the midwest. I spent the first 35 years of my life in Detroit/Ann Arbor/Chicago. I currently live 40 miles from NYC and culturally I’ve never lived in such a desert. The grocery store in Ripon, WI (birthplace of the Republican party) is a palace compared to the grocery store down the street. And I love Indiana, especially Indianapolis. (This is a beautiful picture of Monument Circle there: http://www.city-data.com/picfilesc/picc33569.php). Anyone old enough to have seen the movie “Cutters”? (Refers to the stone cutters in southern Indiana) It was filmed in Bloomington, I believe – gorgeous. Also, U of I Bloomington has a fantastic music school – according to Wikipedia, in 1981 it’s opera program was “the first non-professional company to stage an opera at the Metropolitan Opera in New York City.”
You’re kidding yourself if you believe the standard spiel about the midwest – mostly just a result of the people on the coasts patting themselves on the back, IMHO.
March 30, 2011 at 3:53 PM #683074njtosdParticipant[quote=briansd1]
My cousin’s son lives in Bloomington, IN and works for the university there. He says that one of the best places in USA to live — a cultural oasis in midwestern desert. It’s on my list of places to check out, one of these days.[/quote]Good heavens. You really do need to spend some time in the midwest. I spent the first 35 years of my life in Detroit/Ann Arbor/Chicago. I currently live 40 miles from NYC and culturally I’ve never lived in such a desert. The grocery store in Ripon, WI (birthplace of the Republican party) is a palace compared to the grocery store down the street. And I love Indiana, especially Indianapolis. (This is a beautiful picture of Monument Circle there: http://www.city-data.com/picfilesc/picc33569.php). Anyone old enough to have seen the movie “Cutters”? (Refers to the stone cutters in southern Indiana) It was filmed in Bloomington, I believe – gorgeous. Also, U of I Bloomington has a fantastic music school – according to Wikipedia, in 1981 it’s opera program was “the first non-professional company to stage an opera at the Metropolitan Opera in New York City.”
You’re kidding yourself if you believe the standard spiel about the midwest – mostly just a result of the people on the coasts patting themselves on the back, IMHO.
March 30, 2011 at 5:29 PM #681929CricketOnTheHearthParticipantI’m actually mystified as to why the “investors” haven’t piled back into Michigan already. Maybe they are trying to wring out the last of the auto unions before they move back in.
I say this because Michigan intrinsically has a lot going for it.
–It is surrounded by fresh water as another poster said.
–In the south of the “mitten” especially it has lots of prime farmland, and it gets enough rain/snow to water same with little to no supplemental irrigation.
–There are a several very good universities and an additional number of decent universities and small liberal arts colleges. In addition, Kalamazoo has the “Kalamazoo Promise” in which every kid who graduates from a Kalamazoo high school gets a free-ride college scholarship. So, potential to have a highly-educated workforce. (If they didn’t all have to leave the state in search of jobs.)
— The southern tier of Michigan also has I-94 running through it, connecting Chicago to Detroit and directly on to parts beyond in both directions; Detroit connects directly to Windsor, Ontario (Canada), and the harbors and ports feed directly into the St. Lawrence Seaway (e.g. shipping access). In short, goods can be transported in and out fairly easily.
— The landscape is flat meaning Michigan has the same real estate advantage as other flat states (read: Texas)– housing and other real estate is CHEAP.Long term, if Michigan were its own country, it would be the most able to be self-sufficient of many regions of the U.S. Yeah, the winter weather can be a bummer, and the summer riddled with mosquitos… but the spring and fall are absolutely gorgeous. I didn’t move on account of the weather, anyway, I moved to a good employer (e.g. “Top 100 Places to Work” kind of good) here in Sandy. Put a good employer back in Michigan and I’ll move back there in a heartbeat.
March 30, 2011 at 5:29 PM #681983CricketOnTheHearthParticipantI’m actually mystified as to why the “investors” haven’t piled back into Michigan already. Maybe they are trying to wring out the last of the auto unions before they move back in.
I say this because Michigan intrinsically has a lot going for it.
–It is surrounded by fresh water as another poster said.
–In the south of the “mitten” especially it has lots of prime farmland, and it gets enough rain/snow to water same with little to no supplemental irrigation.
–There are a several very good universities and an additional number of decent universities and small liberal arts colleges. In addition, Kalamazoo has the “Kalamazoo Promise” in which every kid who graduates from a Kalamazoo high school gets a free-ride college scholarship. So, potential to have a highly-educated workforce. (If they didn’t all have to leave the state in search of jobs.)
— The southern tier of Michigan also has I-94 running through it, connecting Chicago to Detroit and directly on to parts beyond in both directions; Detroit connects directly to Windsor, Ontario (Canada), and the harbors and ports feed directly into the St. Lawrence Seaway (e.g. shipping access). In short, goods can be transported in and out fairly easily.
— The landscape is flat meaning Michigan has the same real estate advantage as other flat states (read: Texas)– housing and other real estate is CHEAP.Long term, if Michigan were its own country, it would be the most able to be self-sufficient of many regions of the U.S. Yeah, the winter weather can be a bummer, and the summer riddled with mosquitos… but the spring and fall are absolutely gorgeous. I didn’t move on account of the weather, anyway, I moved to a good employer (e.g. “Top 100 Places to Work” kind of good) here in Sandy. Put a good employer back in Michigan and I’ll move back there in a heartbeat.
March 30, 2011 at 5:29 PM #682605CricketOnTheHearthParticipantI’m actually mystified as to why the “investors” haven’t piled back into Michigan already. Maybe they are trying to wring out the last of the auto unions before they move back in.
I say this because Michigan intrinsically has a lot going for it.
–It is surrounded by fresh water as another poster said.
–In the south of the “mitten” especially it has lots of prime farmland, and it gets enough rain/snow to water same with little to no supplemental irrigation.
–There are a several very good universities and an additional number of decent universities and small liberal arts colleges. In addition, Kalamazoo has the “Kalamazoo Promise” in which every kid who graduates from a Kalamazoo high school gets a free-ride college scholarship. So, potential to have a highly-educated workforce. (If they didn’t all have to leave the state in search of jobs.)
— The southern tier of Michigan also has I-94 running through it, connecting Chicago to Detroit and directly on to parts beyond in both directions; Detroit connects directly to Windsor, Ontario (Canada), and the harbors and ports feed directly into the St. Lawrence Seaway (e.g. shipping access). In short, goods can be transported in and out fairly easily.
— The landscape is flat meaning Michigan has the same real estate advantage as other flat states (read: Texas)– housing and other real estate is CHEAP.Long term, if Michigan were its own country, it would be the most able to be self-sufficient of many regions of the U.S. Yeah, the winter weather can be a bummer, and the summer riddled with mosquitos… but the spring and fall are absolutely gorgeous. I didn’t move on account of the weather, anyway, I moved to a good employer (e.g. “Top 100 Places to Work” kind of good) here in Sandy. Put a good employer back in Michigan and I’ll move back there in a heartbeat.
March 30, 2011 at 5:29 PM #682744CricketOnTheHearthParticipantI’m actually mystified as to why the “investors” haven’t piled back into Michigan already. Maybe they are trying to wring out the last of the auto unions before they move back in.
I say this because Michigan intrinsically has a lot going for it.
–It is surrounded by fresh water as another poster said.
–In the south of the “mitten” especially it has lots of prime farmland, and it gets enough rain/snow to water same with little to no supplemental irrigation.
–There are a several very good universities and an additional number of decent universities and small liberal arts colleges. In addition, Kalamazoo has the “Kalamazoo Promise” in which every kid who graduates from a Kalamazoo high school gets a free-ride college scholarship. So, potential to have a highly-educated workforce. (If they didn’t all have to leave the state in search of jobs.)
— The southern tier of Michigan also has I-94 running through it, connecting Chicago to Detroit and directly on to parts beyond in both directions; Detroit connects directly to Windsor, Ontario (Canada), and the harbors and ports feed directly into the St. Lawrence Seaway (e.g. shipping access). In short, goods can be transported in and out fairly easily.
— The landscape is flat meaning Michigan has the same real estate advantage as other flat states (read: Texas)– housing and other real estate is CHEAP.Long term, if Michigan were its own country, it would be the most able to be self-sufficient of many regions of the U.S. Yeah, the winter weather can be a bummer, and the summer riddled with mosquitos… but the spring and fall are absolutely gorgeous. I didn’t move on account of the weather, anyway, I moved to a good employer (e.g. “Top 100 Places to Work” kind of good) here in Sandy. Put a good employer back in Michigan and I’ll move back there in a heartbeat.
March 30, 2011 at 5:29 PM #683099CricketOnTheHearthParticipantI’m actually mystified as to why the “investors” haven’t piled back into Michigan already. Maybe they are trying to wring out the last of the auto unions before they move back in.
I say this because Michigan intrinsically has a lot going for it.
–It is surrounded by fresh water as another poster said.
–In the south of the “mitten” especially it has lots of prime farmland, and it gets enough rain/snow to water same with little to no supplemental irrigation.
–There are a several very good universities and an additional number of decent universities and small liberal arts colleges. In addition, Kalamazoo has the “Kalamazoo Promise” in which every kid who graduates from a Kalamazoo high school gets a free-ride college scholarship. So, potential to have a highly-educated workforce. (If they didn’t all have to leave the state in search of jobs.)
— The southern tier of Michigan also has I-94 running through it, connecting Chicago to Detroit and directly on to parts beyond in both directions; Detroit connects directly to Windsor, Ontario (Canada), and the harbors and ports feed directly into the St. Lawrence Seaway (e.g. shipping access). In short, goods can be transported in and out fairly easily.
— The landscape is flat meaning Michigan has the same real estate advantage as other flat states (read: Texas)– housing and other real estate is CHEAP.Long term, if Michigan were its own country, it would be the most able to be self-sufficient of many regions of the U.S. Yeah, the winter weather can be a bummer, and the summer riddled with mosquitos… but the spring and fall are absolutely gorgeous. I didn’t move on account of the weather, anyway, I moved to a good employer (e.g. “Top 100 Places to Work” kind of good) here in Sandy. Put a good employer back in Michigan and I’ll move back there in a heartbeat.
March 30, 2011 at 9:18 PM #681969briansd1Guest[quote=njtosd]
Good heavens. You really do need to spend some time in the midwest. I spent the first 35 years of my life in Detroit/Ann Arbor/Chicago. I currently live 40 miles from NYC and culturally I’ve never lived in such a desert. The grocery store in Ripon, WI (birthplace of the Republican party) is a palace compared to the grocery store down the street. And I love Indiana, especially Indianapolis. (This is a beautiful picture of Monument Circle there: http://www.city-data.com/picfilesc/picc33569.php). Anyone old enough to have seen the movie “Cutters”? (Refers to the stone cutters in southern Indiana) It was filmed in Bloomington, I believe – gorgeous. Also, U of I Bloomington has a fantastic music school – according to Wikipedia, in 1981 it’s opera program was “the first non-professional company to stage an opera at the Metropolitan Opera in New York City.”You’re kidding yourself if you believe the standard spiel about the midwest – mostly just a result of the people on the coasts patting themselves on the back, IMHO.[/quote]
Ok, I admit it, I’m one of those coastal snobs. But I’m willing to see the light.
I will have to accelerate my visit to Indiana.
My cousin lived in Indianapolis before they moved to Columbus. But I never visited her there in almost 2 decades. That was bad of me.
Her son grew up and stayed behind in Indianapolis. Then he ended up in Bloomington where he converted to Bhuddism because of the Dalai Lama’s Tibetan Center there.
BTW, the monument circle looks great.
March 30, 2011 at 9:18 PM #682023briansd1Guest[quote=njtosd]
Good heavens. You really do need to spend some time in the midwest. I spent the first 35 years of my life in Detroit/Ann Arbor/Chicago. I currently live 40 miles from NYC and culturally I’ve never lived in such a desert. The grocery store in Ripon, WI (birthplace of the Republican party) is a palace compared to the grocery store down the street. And I love Indiana, especially Indianapolis. (This is a beautiful picture of Monument Circle there: http://www.city-data.com/picfilesc/picc33569.php). Anyone old enough to have seen the movie “Cutters”? (Refers to the stone cutters in southern Indiana) It was filmed in Bloomington, I believe – gorgeous. Also, U of I Bloomington has a fantastic music school – according to Wikipedia, in 1981 it’s opera program was “the first non-professional company to stage an opera at the Metropolitan Opera in New York City.”You’re kidding yourself if you believe the standard spiel about the midwest – mostly just a result of the people on the coasts patting themselves on the back, IMHO.[/quote]
Ok, I admit it, I’m one of those coastal snobs. But I’m willing to see the light.
I will have to accelerate my visit to Indiana.
My cousin lived in Indianapolis before they moved to Columbus. But I never visited her there in almost 2 decades. That was bad of me.
Her son grew up and stayed behind in Indianapolis. Then he ended up in Bloomington where he converted to Bhuddism because of the Dalai Lama’s Tibetan Center there.
BTW, the monument circle looks great.
March 30, 2011 at 9:18 PM #682643briansd1Guest[quote=njtosd]
Good heavens. You really do need to spend some time in the midwest. I spent the first 35 years of my life in Detroit/Ann Arbor/Chicago. I currently live 40 miles from NYC and culturally I’ve never lived in such a desert. The grocery store in Ripon, WI (birthplace of the Republican party) is a palace compared to the grocery store down the street. And I love Indiana, especially Indianapolis. (This is a beautiful picture of Monument Circle there: http://www.city-data.com/picfilesc/picc33569.php). Anyone old enough to have seen the movie “Cutters”? (Refers to the stone cutters in southern Indiana) It was filmed in Bloomington, I believe – gorgeous. Also, U of I Bloomington has a fantastic music school – according to Wikipedia, in 1981 it’s opera program was “the first non-professional company to stage an opera at the Metropolitan Opera in New York City.”You’re kidding yourself if you believe the standard spiel about the midwest – mostly just a result of the people on the coasts patting themselves on the back, IMHO.[/quote]
Ok, I admit it, I’m one of those coastal snobs. But I’m willing to see the light.
I will have to accelerate my visit to Indiana.
My cousin lived in Indianapolis before they moved to Columbus. But I never visited her there in almost 2 decades. That was bad of me.
Her son grew up and stayed behind in Indianapolis. Then he ended up in Bloomington where he converted to Bhuddism because of the Dalai Lama’s Tibetan Center there.
BTW, the monument circle looks great.
March 30, 2011 at 9:18 PM #682783briansd1Guest[quote=njtosd]
Good heavens. You really do need to spend some time in the midwest. I spent the first 35 years of my life in Detroit/Ann Arbor/Chicago. I currently live 40 miles from NYC and culturally I’ve never lived in such a desert. The grocery store in Ripon, WI (birthplace of the Republican party) is a palace compared to the grocery store down the street. And I love Indiana, especially Indianapolis. (This is a beautiful picture of Monument Circle there: http://www.city-data.com/picfilesc/picc33569.php). Anyone old enough to have seen the movie “Cutters”? (Refers to the stone cutters in southern Indiana) It was filmed in Bloomington, I believe – gorgeous. Also, U of I Bloomington has a fantastic music school – according to Wikipedia, in 1981 it’s opera program was “the first non-professional company to stage an opera at the Metropolitan Opera in New York City.”You’re kidding yourself if you believe the standard spiel about the midwest – mostly just a result of the people on the coasts patting themselves on the back, IMHO.[/quote]
Ok, I admit it, I’m one of those coastal snobs. But I’m willing to see the light.
I will have to accelerate my visit to Indiana.
My cousin lived in Indianapolis before they moved to Columbus. But I never visited her there in almost 2 decades. That was bad of me.
Her son grew up and stayed behind in Indianapolis. Then he ended up in Bloomington where he converted to Bhuddism because of the Dalai Lama’s Tibetan Center there.
BTW, the monument circle looks great.
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