Impact of Palomar Airport Expansion – Carlsbad

[Anonymous]

Yes, that means what it implies–VOLUNTARY. However, Palomar commissioned this study itself and they came to the conclusion that it was the safest route! They advise pilots to follow that route and as I said, the majority do.

Since Palomar is the busiest single runway airport in the nation and since the accident rate is so high, and since there ARE so many homes in the area (regardless of whether or not they should have been built), don’t you believe that NOT following the safety conclusion to the report that the airport commissioned is a bit dangerous? Come on, people…this is not rocket science. My children and neighbors are living in a potential deadly zone. It is not a question of IF but of WHEN a plane will hit a neighborhood.

Look at the accident stats and you will see that compared to other airports in the nation Palomar has staggering odds. The FAA will not do anything about this unless the county (airport owner) tells them something needs to be done. The Palomar Airport Advisory Committee (PAAC) needs to step up to the plate and get the FAA to do so. They will not listen to our pleas.

[Anonymous]

Yes, that means what it implies–VOLUNTARY. However, Palomar commissioned this study itself and they came to the conclusion that it was the safest route! They advise pilots to follow that route and as I said, the majority do.

Since Palomar is the busiest single runway airport in the nation and since the accident rate is so high, and since there ARE so many homes in the area (regardless of whether or not they should have been built), don’t you believe that NOT following the safety conclusion to the report that the airport commissioned is a bit dangerous? Come on, people…this is not rocket science. My children and neighbors are living in a potential deadly zone. It is not a question of IF but of WHEN a plane will hit a neighborhood.

Look at the accident stats and you will see that compared to other airports in the nation Palomar has staggering odds. The FAA will not do anything about this unless the county (airport owner) tells them something needs to be done. The Palomar Airport Advisory Committee (PAAC) needs to step up to the plate and get the FAA to do so. They will not listen to our pleas.

[Anonymous]

Yes, that means what it implies–VOLUNTARY. However, Palomar commissioned this study itself and they came to the conclusion that it was the safest route! They advise pilots to follow that route and as I said, the majority do.

Since Palomar is the busiest single runway airport in the nation and since the accident rate is so high, and since there ARE so many homes in the area (regardless of whether or not they should have been built), don’t you believe that NOT following the safety conclusion to the report that the airport commissioned is a bit dangerous? Come on, people…this is not rocket science. My children and neighbors are living in a potential deadly zone. It is not a question of IF but of WHEN a plane will hit a neighborhood.

Look at the accident stats and you will see that compared to other airports in the nation Palomar has staggering odds. The FAA will not do anything about this unless the county (airport owner) tells them something needs to be done. The Palomar Airport Advisory Committee (PAAC) needs to step up to the plate and get the FAA to do so. They will not listen to our pleas.

[Anonymous]

Thank you for your diligent research before you commented on my post. It amazes me that people just fire back without the proper information. You are correct about the accident statistics. It is, in a word, alarming. I do not have a fear of planes or pilots (I have many clients and friends who are pilots, and also who fly out of Palomar). I also would not have become involved in the cause if it were simply to fix the noise, since as I mentioned I was made aware of the airport when I purchased my home.

BUT as a mother, a resident of Carlsbad, and as an advocate for doing what is right I decided to join this cause. Our group has so much information compiled and I am still learning a lot, but what I have seen so far is very disturbing. Bill Horn, who is our elected representative and should deal with safety issues, has refused to acknowledge this problem. The PAAC tells us we are “complainers” who want the airport to go away. The media incorrectly quotes us as a group against the noise. WE ARE FIGHTING TO CHANGE PROCEDURE AT THE AIRPORT TO SPARE THE LOSS OF LIVES. That is our cause.

I am so glad contrarian understands our safety concern. I beg the rest of you to do your research as well.

[Anonymous]

Thank you for your diligent research before you commented on my post. It amazes me that people just fire back without the proper information. You are correct about the accident statistics. It is, in a word, alarming. I do not have a fear of planes or pilots (I have many clients and friends who are pilots, and also who fly out of Palomar). I also would not have become involved in the cause if it were simply to fix the noise, since as I mentioned I was made aware of the airport when I purchased my home.

BUT as a mother, a resident of Carlsbad, and as an advocate for doing what is right I decided to join this cause. Our group has so much information compiled and I am still learning a lot, but what I have seen so far is very disturbing. Bill Horn, who is our elected representative and should deal with safety issues, has refused to acknowledge this problem. The PAAC tells us we are “complainers” who want the airport to go away. The media incorrectly quotes us as a group against the noise. WE ARE FIGHTING TO CHANGE PROCEDURE AT THE AIRPORT TO SPARE THE LOSS OF LIVES. That is our cause.

I am so glad contrarian understands our safety concern. I beg the rest of you to do your research as well.

[Anonymous]

Thank you for your diligent research before you commented on my post. It amazes me that people just fire back without the proper information. You are correct about the accident statistics. It is, in a word, alarming. I do not have a fear of planes or pilots (I have many clients and friends who are pilots, and also who fly out of Palomar). I also would not have become involved in the cause if it were simply to fix the noise, since as I mentioned I was made aware of the airport when I purchased my home.

BUT as a mother, a resident of Carlsbad, and as an advocate for doing what is right I decided to join this cause. Our group has so much information compiled and I am still learning a lot, but what I have seen so far is very disturbing. Bill Horn, who is our elected representative and should deal with safety issues, has refused to acknowledge this problem. The PAAC tells us we are “complainers” who want the airport to go away. The media incorrectly quotes us as a group against the noise. WE ARE FIGHTING TO CHANGE PROCEDURE AT THE AIRPORT TO SPARE THE LOSS OF LIVES. That is our cause.

I am so glad contrarian understands our safety concern. I beg the rest of you to do your research as well.

[Anonymous]

Thank you for your diligent research before you commented on my post. It amazes me that people just fire back without the proper information. You are correct about the accident statistics. It is, in a word, alarming. I do not have a fear of planes or pilots (I have many clients and friends who are pilots, and also who fly out of Palomar). I also would not have become involved in the cause if it were simply to fix the noise, since as I mentioned I was made aware of the airport when I purchased my home.

BUT as a mother, a resident of Carlsbad, and as an advocate for doing what is right I decided to join this cause. Our group has so much information compiled and I am still learning a lot, but what I have seen so far is very disturbing. Bill Horn, who is our elected representative and should deal with safety issues, has refused to acknowledge this problem. The PAAC tells us we are “complainers” who want the airport to go away. The media incorrectly quotes us as a group against the noise. WE ARE FIGHTING TO CHANGE PROCEDURE AT THE AIRPORT TO SPARE THE LOSS OF LIVES. That is our cause.

I am so glad contrarian understands our safety concern. I beg the rest of you to do your research as well.

[Anonymous]

Thank you for your diligent research before you commented on my post. It amazes me that people just fire back without the proper information. You are correct about the accident statistics. It is, in a word, alarming. I do not have a fear of planes or pilots (I have many clients and friends who are pilots, and also who fly out of Palomar). I also would not have become involved in the cause if it were simply to fix the noise, since as I mentioned I was made aware of the airport when I purchased my home.

BUT as a mother, a resident of Carlsbad, and as an advocate for doing what is right I decided to join this cause. Our group has so much information compiled and I am still learning a lot, but what I have seen so far is very disturbing. Bill Horn, who is our elected representative and should deal with safety issues, has refused to acknowledge this problem. The PAAC tells us we are “complainers” who want the airport to go away. The media incorrectly quotes us as a group against the noise. WE ARE FIGHTING TO CHANGE PROCEDURE AT THE AIRPORT TO SPARE THE LOSS OF LIVES. That is our cause.

I am so glad contrarian understands our safety concern. I beg the rest of you to do your research as well.

[Anonymous]

I have a question for flu: is it CONVENIENT to cut over homes on takeoff, often times at a very low altitude, rather than going an extra mile and a half to two miles to turn in order to lessen the potential damage from a crash? Several planes have crashed into the new $67 million golf course and the canyon. Can you imagine if those planes had veered immediately southwest over homes instead of flying the recommended “voluntary” route? I shudder to think of it. Many times it is better to be forget convenience when it is overshadowed by safety issues and doing the right thing!

[Anonymous]

I have a question for flu: is it CONVENIENT to cut over homes on takeoff, often times at a very low altitude, rather than going an extra mile and a half to two miles to turn in order to lessen the potential damage from a crash? Several planes have crashed into the new $67 million golf course and the canyon. Can you imagine if those planes had veered immediately southwest over homes instead of flying the recommended “voluntary” route? I shudder to think of it. Many times it is better to be forget convenience when it is overshadowed by safety issues and doing the right thing!

[Anonymous]

I have a question for flu: is it CONVENIENT to cut over homes on takeoff, often times at a very low altitude, rather than going an extra mile and a half to two miles to turn in order to lessen the potential damage from a crash? Several planes have crashed into the new $67 million golf course and the canyon. Can you imagine if those planes had veered immediately southwest over homes instead of flying the recommended “voluntary” route? I shudder to think of it. Many times it is better to be forget convenience when it is overshadowed by safety issues and doing the right thing!

[Anonymous]

I have a question for flu: is it CONVENIENT to cut over homes on takeoff, often times at a very low altitude, rather than going an extra mile and a half to two miles to turn in order to lessen the potential damage from a crash? Several planes have crashed into the new $67 million golf course and the canyon. Can you imagine if those planes had veered immediately southwest over homes instead of flying the recommended “voluntary” route? I shudder to think of it. Many times it is better to be forget convenience when it is overshadowed by safety issues and doing the right thing!

[Anonymous]

I have a question for flu: is it CONVENIENT to cut over homes on takeoff, often times at a very low altitude, rather than going an extra mile and a half to two miles to turn in order to lessen the potential damage from a crash? Several planes have crashed into the new $67 million golf course and the canyon. Can you imagine if those planes had veered immediately southwest over homes instead of flying the recommended “voluntary” route? I shudder to think of it. Many times it is better to be forget convenience when it is overshadowed by safety issues and doing the right thing!

[Coronita]

[quote=jiggy]I have a question for flu: is it CONVENIENT to cut over homes on takeoff, often times at a very low altitude, rather than going an extra mile and a half to two miles to turn in order to lessen the potential damage from a crash? Several planes have crashed into the new $67 million golf course and the canyon. Can you imagine if those planes had veered immediately southwest over homes instead of flying the recommended “voluntary” route? I shudder to think of it. Many times it is better to be forget convenience when it is overshadowed by safety issues and doing the right thing! [/quote]

Well, personally I wouldn’t make the decision to buy a home that would be near a flight path or potential flightpath of an airport, planned or unintentional since I value the safety for my family versus trying to get a bigger home for the bang for buck … but that’s just me….

And it seemed like the city of CB really screwed up to allow permits to be around there so close, but it seems like considering the route is “voluntary” and if Palomar/FAA or whatever isn’t going to change the thing, what standing is there for getting things to change. It just seems like it would be a completely different situation if you bought your home and then the airport was built around it….I could see why you would be pissed. But the airport came before your home.

It seemed to me that for example a few folks that bought a home in Carmel Valley too near a powerline during the hype (and now are having a problem selling those homes because of suboptimal location because the more informed consumer think there there is some link between emf from power lines and leukemia) are sort of blaming the builder for not disclosing potential dangers of power lines when the obvious is sort of right in front of them (or i should say, right in their backyard).

The second point you make on the complaint is about the noise level, and quite hours. While I can sort of see the merits of the safety issue in your first point, I don’t see were #2 would be, considering again I don’t think Palomar was grandfathered into one of those airports that had mandatory curfews for takeoff or landing.

I’m not calling you an idiot or anything. It’s an honest question. Why did you buy near an airport?

[Coronita]

[quote=jiggy]I have a question for flu: is it CONVENIENT to cut over homes on takeoff, often times at a very low altitude, rather than going an extra mile and a half to two miles to turn in order to lessen the potential damage from a crash? Several planes have crashed into the new $67 million golf course and the canyon. Can you imagine if those planes had veered immediately southwest over homes instead of flying the recommended “voluntary” route? I shudder to think of it. Many times it is better to be forget convenience when it is overshadowed by safety issues and doing the right thing! [/quote]

Well, personally I wouldn’t make the decision to buy a home that would be near a flight path or potential flightpath of an airport, planned or unintentional since I value the safety for my family versus trying to get a bigger home for the bang for buck … but that’s just me….

And it seemed like the city of CB really screwed up to allow permits to be around there so close, but it seems like considering the route is “voluntary” and if Palomar/FAA or whatever isn’t going to change the thing, what standing is there for getting things to change. It just seems like it would be a completely different situation if you bought your home and then the airport was built around it….I could see why you would be pissed. But the airport came before your home.

It seemed to me that for example a few folks that bought a home in Carmel Valley too near a powerline during the hype (and now are having a problem selling those homes because of suboptimal location because the more informed consumer think there there is some link between emf from power lines and leukemia) are sort of blaming the builder for not disclosing potential dangers of power lines when the obvious is sort of right in front of them (or i should say, right in their backyard).

The second point you make on the complaint is about the noise level, and quite hours. While I can sort of see the merits of the safety issue in your first point, I don’t see were #2 would be, considering again I don’t think Palomar was grandfathered into one of those airports that had mandatory curfews for takeoff or landing.

I’m not calling you an idiot or anything. It’s an honest question. Why did you buy near an airport?

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