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May 6, 2008 at 11:52 AM #199805May 6, 2008 at 12:08 PM #199682AnonymousGuest
“Good lord, what bunch of birkenstock wearing tree huggers.
I own a ford F150. I actually USE it for, you know, hauling stuff to the dump or home from Home Depot.
I can’t really do any of that in a Prius or an Accord.”
I’m a ‘tree hugger’ and wear normal shoes, but I don’t have a problem with this. Really, few people do.
That’s not a problem. That’s the way it used to be, when truck owners owned trucks because they needed to. And trucks were 15% of vehicle sales, not 50%.
Take a look next time you drive in a city.
What fraction of full-sized trucks and SUV’s are carrying more than 15% of their cargo capacity or towing something?
In reality, less than 5%. I bet 98% haven’t towed anything in a year, and 70% of trucks, and 95% of SUV’s haven’t hauled anything more strenuous than a sofa or mattress, once, in the last year.
that’s the problem.
If people want to park their land tugs and save them for the twice a year camping and hauling (or daily productive work), no problem.
Most likely is huge knobby (bad mileage, bad performance), chromed wheels, massively lifted (bad handling + safety), and completely shiny with no dirt and a pristine bed cover, not removed in months.
Think about it this way: those posers are wasting your gas, and costing you much more money. You should be mad at them, not the treehuggers. These vain ‘dudes’ are screwing the tradesmen and professional truckers who use their trucks for economically productive work.
May 6, 2008 at 12:08 PM #199725AnonymousGuest“Good lord, what bunch of birkenstock wearing tree huggers.
I own a ford F150. I actually USE it for, you know, hauling stuff to the dump or home from Home Depot.
I can’t really do any of that in a Prius or an Accord.”
I’m a ‘tree hugger’ and wear normal shoes, but I don’t have a problem with this. Really, few people do.
That’s not a problem. That’s the way it used to be, when truck owners owned trucks because they needed to. And trucks were 15% of vehicle sales, not 50%.
Take a look next time you drive in a city.
What fraction of full-sized trucks and SUV’s are carrying more than 15% of their cargo capacity or towing something?
In reality, less than 5%. I bet 98% haven’t towed anything in a year, and 70% of trucks, and 95% of SUV’s haven’t hauled anything more strenuous than a sofa or mattress, once, in the last year.
that’s the problem.
If people want to park their land tugs and save them for the twice a year camping and hauling (or daily productive work), no problem.
Most likely is huge knobby (bad mileage, bad performance), chromed wheels, massively lifted (bad handling + safety), and completely shiny with no dirt and a pristine bed cover, not removed in months.
Think about it this way: those posers are wasting your gas, and costing you much more money. You should be mad at them, not the treehuggers. These vain ‘dudes’ are screwing the tradesmen and professional truckers who use their trucks for economically productive work.
May 6, 2008 at 12:08 PM #199747AnonymousGuest“Good lord, what bunch of birkenstock wearing tree huggers.
I own a ford F150. I actually USE it for, you know, hauling stuff to the dump or home from Home Depot.
I can’t really do any of that in a Prius or an Accord.”
I’m a ‘tree hugger’ and wear normal shoes, but I don’t have a problem with this. Really, few people do.
That’s not a problem. That’s the way it used to be, when truck owners owned trucks because they needed to. And trucks were 15% of vehicle sales, not 50%.
Take a look next time you drive in a city.
What fraction of full-sized trucks and SUV’s are carrying more than 15% of their cargo capacity or towing something?
In reality, less than 5%. I bet 98% haven’t towed anything in a year, and 70% of trucks, and 95% of SUV’s haven’t hauled anything more strenuous than a sofa or mattress, once, in the last year.
that’s the problem.
If people want to park their land tugs and save them for the twice a year camping and hauling (or daily productive work), no problem.
Most likely is huge knobby (bad mileage, bad performance), chromed wheels, massively lifted (bad handling + safety), and completely shiny with no dirt and a pristine bed cover, not removed in months.
Think about it this way: those posers are wasting your gas, and costing you much more money. You should be mad at them, not the treehuggers. These vain ‘dudes’ are screwing the tradesmen and professional truckers who use their trucks for economically productive work.
May 6, 2008 at 12:08 PM #199776AnonymousGuest“Good lord, what bunch of birkenstock wearing tree huggers.
I own a ford F150. I actually USE it for, you know, hauling stuff to the dump or home from Home Depot.
I can’t really do any of that in a Prius or an Accord.”
I’m a ‘tree hugger’ and wear normal shoes, but I don’t have a problem with this. Really, few people do.
That’s not a problem. That’s the way it used to be, when truck owners owned trucks because they needed to. And trucks were 15% of vehicle sales, not 50%.
Take a look next time you drive in a city.
What fraction of full-sized trucks and SUV’s are carrying more than 15% of their cargo capacity or towing something?
In reality, less than 5%. I bet 98% haven’t towed anything in a year, and 70% of trucks, and 95% of SUV’s haven’t hauled anything more strenuous than a sofa or mattress, once, in the last year.
that’s the problem.
If people want to park their land tugs and save them for the twice a year camping and hauling (or daily productive work), no problem.
Most likely is huge knobby (bad mileage, bad performance), chromed wheels, massively lifted (bad handling + safety), and completely shiny with no dirt and a pristine bed cover, not removed in months.
Think about it this way: those posers are wasting your gas, and costing you much more money. You should be mad at them, not the treehuggers. These vain ‘dudes’ are screwing the tradesmen and professional truckers who use their trucks for economically productive work.
May 6, 2008 at 12:08 PM #199810AnonymousGuest“Good lord, what bunch of birkenstock wearing tree huggers.
I own a ford F150. I actually USE it for, you know, hauling stuff to the dump or home from Home Depot.
I can’t really do any of that in a Prius or an Accord.”
I’m a ‘tree hugger’ and wear normal shoes, but I don’t have a problem with this. Really, few people do.
That’s not a problem. That’s the way it used to be, when truck owners owned trucks because they needed to. And trucks were 15% of vehicle sales, not 50%.
Take a look next time you drive in a city.
What fraction of full-sized trucks and SUV’s are carrying more than 15% of their cargo capacity or towing something?
In reality, less than 5%. I bet 98% haven’t towed anything in a year, and 70% of trucks, and 95% of SUV’s haven’t hauled anything more strenuous than a sofa or mattress, once, in the last year.
that’s the problem.
If people want to park their land tugs and save them for the twice a year camping and hauling (or daily productive work), no problem.
Most likely is huge knobby (bad mileage, bad performance), chromed wheels, massively lifted (bad handling + safety), and completely shiny with no dirt and a pristine bed cover, not removed in months.
Think about it this way: those posers are wasting your gas, and costing you much more money. You should be mad at them, not the treehuggers. These vain ‘dudes’ are screwing the tradesmen and professional truckers who use their trucks for economically productive work.
May 6, 2008 at 12:23 PM #199697four wallingParticipantI am a happy SUV idiot.
Here is our household car history since 1995:
1995 Range Rover (sold)
1995 Toyota Corolla (sold)
2002 Toyota Highlander (sold)
2004 Cayenne S (sold)
2006 Range Rover Sport S/C (current) YING
2008 Prius (current) YANGThere is no substitute for an SUV to make those Home Depot runs. However, at 47 MPG, the Prius is a fascinating vehicle.
From a financial standpoint it does not make sense to sell the R Rover. In the same vein, it did not make a lot of financial sense to purchase a Prius, but it is a “cool” (to me) car.
I do, however, think that I should get a license plate frame for the R Rover that says:
MY OTHER CAR IS A PRIUS.
May 6, 2008 at 12:23 PM #199739four wallingParticipantI am a happy SUV idiot.
Here is our household car history since 1995:
1995 Range Rover (sold)
1995 Toyota Corolla (sold)
2002 Toyota Highlander (sold)
2004 Cayenne S (sold)
2006 Range Rover Sport S/C (current) YING
2008 Prius (current) YANGThere is no substitute for an SUV to make those Home Depot runs. However, at 47 MPG, the Prius is a fascinating vehicle.
From a financial standpoint it does not make sense to sell the R Rover. In the same vein, it did not make a lot of financial sense to purchase a Prius, but it is a “cool” (to me) car.
I do, however, think that I should get a license plate frame for the R Rover that says:
MY OTHER CAR IS A PRIUS.
May 6, 2008 at 12:23 PM #199763four wallingParticipantI am a happy SUV idiot.
Here is our household car history since 1995:
1995 Range Rover (sold)
1995 Toyota Corolla (sold)
2002 Toyota Highlander (sold)
2004 Cayenne S (sold)
2006 Range Rover Sport S/C (current) YING
2008 Prius (current) YANGThere is no substitute for an SUV to make those Home Depot runs. However, at 47 MPG, the Prius is a fascinating vehicle.
From a financial standpoint it does not make sense to sell the R Rover. In the same vein, it did not make a lot of financial sense to purchase a Prius, but it is a “cool” (to me) car.
I do, however, think that I should get a license plate frame for the R Rover that says:
MY OTHER CAR IS A PRIUS.
May 6, 2008 at 12:23 PM #199790four wallingParticipantI am a happy SUV idiot.
Here is our household car history since 1995:
1995 Range Rover (sold)
1995 Toyota Corolla (sold)
2002 Toyota Highlander (sold)
2004 Cayenne S (sold)
2006 Range Rover Sport S/C (current) YING
2008 Prius (current) YANGThere is no substitute for an SUV to make those Home Depot runs. However, at 47 MPG, the Prius is a fascinating vehicle.
From a financial standpoint it does not make sense to sell the R Rover. In the same vein, it did not make a lot of financial sense to purchase a Prius, but it is a “cool” (to me) car.
I do, however, think that I should get a license plate frame for the R Rover that says:
MY OTHER CAR IS A PRIUS.
May 6, 2008 at 12:23 PM #199826four wallingParticipantI am a happy SUV idiot.
Here is our household car history since 1995:
1995 Range Rover (sold)
1995 Toyota Corolla (sold)
2002 Toyota Highlander (sold)
2004 Cayenne S (sold)
2006 Range Rover Sport S/C (current) YING
2008 Prius (current) YANGThere is no substitute for an SUV to make those Home Depot runs. However, at 47 MPG, the Prius is a fascinating vehicle.
From a financial standpoint it does not make sense to sell the R Rover. In the same vein, it did not make a lot of financial sense to purchase a Prius, but it is a “cool” (to me) car.
I do, however, think that I should get a license plate frame for the R Rover that says:
MY OTHER CAR IS A PRIUS.
May 6, 2008 at 12:43 PM #199712kev374ParticipantSome of the new crossovers (RX, FX etc.) combine the efficiency of a car and the look, space and utility of an SUV. There is no reason to buy a true gas guzzling SUV unless you plan to tread on the Rubicon trail on a regular basis.
BTW, I drive a Nissan Frontier, but it’s a 4cyl so it gives me 24mpg. Also, since I used to race motorcycles I NEEDED it to transport my bikes to the racetrack. I made a concious decision to avoid the 6cyl even though the 4cyl is a bit difficult to use due to it’s lack of power, I just could NOT accept 15mpg of the V6.
May 6, 2008 at 12:43 PM #199754kev374ParticipantSome of the new crossovers (RX, FX etc.) combine the efficiency of a car and the look, space and utility of an SUV. There is no reason to buy a true gas guzzling SUV unless you plan to tread on the Rubicon trail on a regular basis.
BTW, I drive a Nissan Frontier, but it’s a 4cyl so it gives me 24mpg. Also, since I used to race motorcycles I NEEDED it to transport my bikes to the racetrack. I made a concious decision to avoid the 6cyl even though the 4cyl is a bit difficult to use due to it’s lack of power, I just could NOT accept 15mpg of the V6.
May 6, 2008 at 12:43 PM #199778kev374ParticipantSome of the new crossovers (RX, FX etc.) combine the efficiency of a car and the look, space and utility of an SUV. There is no reason to buy a true gas guzzling SUV unless you plan to tread on the Rubicon trail on a regular basis.
BTW, I drive a Nissan Frontier, but it’s a 4cyl so it gives me 24mpg. Also, since I used to race motorcycles I NEEDED it to transport my bikes to the racetrack. I made a concious decision to avoid the 6cyl even though the 4cyl is a bit difficult to use due to it’s lack of power, I just could NOT accept 15mpg of the V6.
May 6, 2008 at 12:43 PM #199806kev374ParticipantSome of the new crossovers (RX, FX etc.) combine the efficiency of a car and the look, space and utility of an SUV. There is no reason to buy a true gas guzzling SUV unless you plan to tread on the Rubicon trail on a regular basis.
BTW, I drive a Nissan Frontier, but it’s a 4cyl so it gives me 24mpg. Also, since I used to race motorcycles I NEEDED it to transport my bikes to the racetrack. I made a concious decision to avoid the 6cyl even though the 4cyl is a bit difficult to use due to it’s lack of power, I just could NOT accept 15mpg of the V6.
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