Idiot SUV owners have trouble selling

[Coronita]

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I dont think we'll get any agreement on this subject matter, especially in CA where people love their cars. (Guilty myself as charged). So I don't think there's really a point debating this. If you'd rather drive what you drive, civics, prius, toyota, whatever, well whatever floats your boat.

Personally, I'd prefer to stick my wife and toddler strapped in an well designed , IIHS rated good/good/good Acura CUV with sufficient size and height without fear of it tipping over because I know my wife doesn't drive like a maniac like me. And I prefer to stick my toddler in the center of the middle row, leaving the third row completely unused, and leaving sufficient room for side/curtain airbags to deploy in the event of side collision. And yes I spent a lot of money buying a decent quality child car seat I could find, based on countless reviews, personal recommendations,etc. (Britax Boulevard with side impact protection if any expecting parents are reading

http://www.babyuniverse.com/Britax-Boulevard-Car-Seats/PID/4809834/ctid/17/INstock/Y/D/?_ts=A006

…FYI, Recaro also makes a great seat that would have been my top choice, but unfortunately isn't rear facing, so I couldn't use it for what we needed at the time, http://www.recarochildseats.com/sportChildSeats.asp).

And personally, I like driving a peppy sedan/coupe 4 banger better than an suv, despite my sedan getting worse gas mileage than my wife's suv.

 

 

Yes a lot of americans really can't afford what they drive. Yes, not everyone can afford to buy/lease an vehicle that is more expensive to operate that your traditional nip 4 banger. And yes, a lot of americans got in over their heads with consuming well beyond their means, so what's new….Yes, SUV and even CUV sales are going to tank with higher gas prices, and their will be fewer on the road long term, just like I'm sure there will be fewer bimmers, audis, mercs on the road.

No, this won't eliminate all SUV's from the road. Even with $5 gas prices or $10 gas prices, some of us will still drive around cars/SUVs/trucks, albeit more conservatively than this. Some of us don't lease our take out an upside down loan on cars, just like some of us never buy used cars for whatever reasons. Life isn't fair, and regulations aren't fair. Trivial fact an high powered sports sedan like an M3,M5,S4,RS4, or Merc AMG product most likely carries a gas guzzler tax. But taking hypothetically, if you took the same engine or a larger consuming engine and putting into an SUV/CUV, there isn't any gas guzzler tax. That's why if you buy an AMG M CUV, you won't pay gas guzzler, or a Q7 4.2, or a X5, or a XC90(though they are more efficient i think)..There are even subsidies if you use large/heavy SUVs/trucks for businesses. Yes, it's unfair, that's life. Write a letter to your senator and bitch about it if it bothers you.

No, $10 gas prices wouldn't be good for everyone. Because unless you are fool and think things like food/water/etc gets transported in electric powered semi-trucks, or feel comfortable flying in a solar powered 747, most likely the cost of transportation will be passed along to people like you and me, in which inevitability, you will suffer indirectly. (If any of you are doing any remodeling now, I feel sorry for you, because you are surely paying a lot more for concrete and slab stone than a few years ago. ) And I assure you $10/gallon gas prices will imply we will have a lot more problems than just folks tooting around in an SUV.

The good news is among most of us "dumb" americans who will suffer in the short term with rising prices of transportation, commodities,etc, there are a few of us ('us' being americans) who are smarter than the rest of us who will inevitability put their brilliant minds to tackle this problem like they tackled every other problem) and engineer new solutions to take us out of this mess, and make the lives for the rest of us better (and hopefully those folks will be financially/socially rewarded for doing so)….because like it or not, this country has some of the most brilliant minds in all fields. Americans are creative and if push comes to shove, someone will find an answer to our problems.

Until then, I'll drive my fat ass CUV and 4 banger that tanks premium grade fuel, thank you very much.

 

 

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—– Sour grapes for everyone!

[raptorduck]

FLU. You are one funny guy. I like reading your posts.

My 2 cent. It is not the damn SUV people, it is the driver. Yes I am one of those folks who tires of people always blaming everything but themselves for their behavior. It was the car, the government, the market, my boss, my spouse, my real estate agent etc. What ever happened to personal responsibility?

If you drive a Hummer H2, like I did for a few years, there are a few things you need to keep in mind. First, drive it like the 2 ton giant it is, not very fast, lots of distance between you and the car in front of you, and hit the brakes twice as early as you would a car. Don’t take corners fast. If an idiot pulls in front of you and cuts you off and you can’t stop in time, you will be ok and there will be one less idiot on the road. Point is, you can be very safe in a Hummer if you drive it like a Hummer, and not a Ferrari. Your only problem then is other drivers, and then you are still “more” safe than in most other cars.

If you drive a Ferrari, you can go real fast, hit the brakes at the last minute, take corners on a dime etc. But then you might become the idiot driver that cuts off the Hummer. Here is a car with a low center of gravity that can handle like nobody’s business. I used to have one (348ts) and this is sooo true. But just because your car is not a giant SUV does not mean you can not drive it like a dumny and kill yourself. I personally have seen more sports cars wrapped around trees than SUVs. Gee an SUV must have cut them all off.

And don’t get me started on Minivan drivers. They must think those are Ferrari’s the way the drive them. Hell has no fury like a soccer mom on a mission. God help you if you are in her way.

If people drive their SUV’s like SUV’s and their sports cars in a way that enables them to have fun but allows for user error, or SUV’s (and 18 wheelers) we all would not be having discussions blaming a car for the behavior of people. When it comes to driving, stupidity is an equal opportunity employer and can be found in any size or make of car out there.

I raced motorcycles for many years and we used to have a saying —if you have a problem, it is the rider and not the bike.—

[raptorduck]

FLU. You are one funny guy. I like reading your posts.

My 2 cent. It is not the damn SUV people, it is the driver. Yes I am one of those folks who tires of people always blaming everything but themselves for their behavior. It was the car, the government, the market, my boss, my spouse, my real estate agent etc. What ever happened to personal responsibility?

If you drive a Hummer H2, like I did for a few years, there are a few things you need to keep in mind. First, drive it like the 2 ton giant it is, not very fast, lots of distance between you and the car in front of you, and hit the brakes twice as early as you would a car. Don’t take corners fast. If an idiot pulls in front of you and cuts you off and you can’t stop in time, you will be ok and there will be one less idiot on the road. Point is, you can be very safe in a Hummer if you drive it like a Hummer, and not a Ferrari. Your only problem then is other drivers, and then you are still “more” safe than in most other cars.

If you drive a Ferrari, you can go real fast, hit the brakes at the last minute, take corners on a dime etc. But then you might become the idiot driver that cuts off the Hummer. Here is a car with a low center of gravity that can handle like nobody’s business. I used to have one (348ts) and this is sooo true. But just because your car is not a giant SUV does not mean you can not drive it like a dumny and kill yourself. I personally have seen more sports cars wrapped around trees than SUVs. Gee an SUV must have cut them all off.

And don’t get me started on Minivan drivers. They must think those are Ferrari’s the way the drive them. Hell has no fury like a soccer mom on a mission. God help you if you are in her way.

If people drive their SUV’s like SUV’s and their sports cars in a way that enables them to have fun but allows for user error, or SUV’s (and 18 wheelers) we all would not be having discussions blaming a car for the behavior of people. When it comes to driving, stupidity is an equal opportunity employer and can be found in any size or make of car out there.

I raced motorcycles for many years and we used to have a saying —if you have a problem, it is the rider and not the bike.—

[raptorduck]

FLU. You are one funny guy. I like reading your posts.

My 2 cent. It is not the damn SUV people, it is the driver. Yes I am one of those folks who tires of people always blaming everything but themselves for their behavior. It was the car, the government, the market, my boss, my spouse, my real estate agent etc. What ever happened to personal responsibility?

If you drive a Hummer H2, like I did for a few years, there are a few things you need to keep in mind. First, drive it like the 2 ton giant it is, not very fast, lots of distance between you and the car in front of you, and hit the brakes twice as early as you would a car. Don’t take corners fast. If an idiot pulls in front of you and cuts you off and you can’t stop in time, you will be ok and there will be one less idiot on the road. Point is, you can be very safe in a Hummer if you drive it like a Hummer, and not a Ferrari. Your only problem then is other drivers, and then you are still “more” safe than in most other cars.

If you drive a Ferrari, you can go real fast, hit the brakes at the last minute, take corners on a dime etc. But then you might become the idiot driver that cuts off the Hummer. Here is a car with a low center of gravity that can handle like nobody’s business. I used to have one (348ts) and this is sooo true. But just because your car is not a giant SUV does not mean you can not drive it like a dumny and kill yourself. I personally have seen more sports cars wrapped around trees than SUVs. Gee an SUV must have cut them all off.

And don’t get me started on Minivan drivers. They must think those are Ferrari’s the way the drive them. Hell has no fury like a soccer mom on a mission. God help you if you are in her way.

If people drive their SUV’s like SUV’s and their sports cars in a way that enables them to have fun but allows for user error, or SUV’s (and 18 wheelers) we all would not be having discussions blaming a car for the behavior of people. When it comes to driving, stupidity is an equal opportunity employer and can be found in any size or make of car out there.

I raced motorcycles for many years and we used to have a saying —if you have a problem, it is the rider and not the bike.—

[raptorduck]

FLU. You are one funny guy. I like reading your posts.

My 2 cent. It is not the damn SUV people, it is the driver. Yes I am one of those folks who tires of people always blaming everything but themselves for their behavior. It was the car, the government, the market, my boss, my spouse, my real estate agent etc. What ever happened to personal responsibility?

If you drive a Hummer H2, like I did for a few years, there are a few things you need to keep in mind. First, drive it like the 2 ton giant it is, not very fast, lots of distance between you and the car in front of you, and hit the brakes twice as early as you would a car. Don’t take corners fast. If an idiot pulls in front of you and cuts you off and you can’t stop in time, you will be ok and there will be one less idiot on the road. Point is, you can be very safe in a Hummer if you drive it like a Hummer, and not a Ferrari. Your only problem then is other drivers, and then you are still “more” safe than in most other cars.

If you drive a Ferrari, you can go real fast, hit the brakes at the last minute, take corners on a dime etc. But then you might become the idiot driver that cuts off the Hummer. Here is a car with a low center of gravity that can handle like nobody’s business. I used to have one (348ts) and this is sooo true. But just because your car is not a giant SUV does not mean you can not drive it like a dumny and kill yourself. I personally have seen more sports cars wrapped around trees than SUVs. Gee an SUV must have cut them all off.

And don’t get me started on Minivan drivers. They must think those are Ferrari’s the way the drive them. Hell has no fury like a soccer mom on a mission. God help you if you are in her way.

If people drive their SUV’s like SUV’s and their sports cars in a way that enables them to have fun but allows for user error, or SUV’s (and 18 wheelers) we all would not be having discussions blaming a car for the behavior of people. When it comes to driving, stupidity is an equal opportunity employer and can be found in any size or make of car out there.

I raced motorcycles for many years and we used to have a saying —if you have a problem, it is the rider and not the bike.—

[raptorduck]

FLU. You are one funny guy. I like reading your posts.

My 2 cent. It is not the damn SUV people, it is the driver. Yes I am one of those folks who tires of people always blaming everything but themselves for their behavior. It was the car, the government, the market, my boss, my spouse, my real estate agent etc. What ever happened to personal responsibility?

If you drive a Hummer H2, like I did for a few years, there are a few things you need to keep in mind. First, drive it like the 2 ton giant it is, not very fast, lots of distance between you and the car in front of you, and hit the brakes twice as early as you would a car. Don’t take corners fast. If an idiot pulls in front of you and cuts you off and you can’t stop in time, you will be ok and there will be one less idiot on the road. Point is, you can be very safe in a Hummer if you drive it like a Hummer, and not a Ferrari. Your only problem then is other drivers, and then you are still “more” safe than in most other cars.

If you drive a Ferrari, you can go real fast, hit the brakes at the last minute, take corners on a dime etc. But then you might become the idiot driver that cuts off the Hummer. Here is a car with a low center of gravity that can handle like nobody’s business. I used to have one (348ts) and this is sooo true. But just because your car is not a giant SUV does not mean you can not drive it like a dumny and kill yourself. I personally have seen more sports cars wrapped around trees than SUVs. Gee an SUV must have cut them all off.

And don’t get me started on Minivan drivers. They must think those are Ferrari’s the way the drive them. Hell has no fury like a soccer mom on a mission. God help you if you are in her way.

If people drive their SUV’s like SUV’s and their sports cars in a way that enables them to have fun but allows for user error, or SUV’s (and 18 wheelers) we all would not be having discussions blaming a car for the behavior of people. When it comes to driving, stupidity is an equal opportunity employer and can be found in any size or make of car out there.

I raced motorcycles for many years and we used to have a saying —if you have a problem, it is the rider and not the bike.—

[raptorduck]

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Why is my post all in italics?

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Why is my post all in italics?

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Why is my post all in italics?

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[GoUSC]

I currently have a F250 7.3 liter diesel for work related activities (and a small two seat sports car for fun). However I will be trading in the truck in the fall when the new BMW diesel X5 comes out. Twin-turbo six cylinder diesel with 270hp and 425 ft. lbs. of torque…AND gets 30mpg on the highway.

[GoUSC]

I currently have a F250 7.3 liter diesel for work related activities (and a small two seat sports car for fun). However I will be trading in the truck in the fall when the new BMW diesel X5 comes out. Twin-turbo six cylinder diesel with 270hp and 425 ft. lbs. of torque…AND gets 30mpg on the highway.

[GoUSC]

I currently have a F250 7.3 liter diesel for work related activities (and a small two seat sports car for fun). However I will be trading in the truck in the fall when the new BMW diesel X5 comes out. Twin-turbo six cylinder diesel with 270hp and 425 ft. lbs. of torque…AND gets 30mpg on the highway.

[GoUSC]

I currently have a F250 7.3 liter diesel for work related activities (and a small two seat sports car for fun). However I will be trading in the truck in the fall when the new BMW diesel X5 comes out. Twin-turbo six cylinder diesel with 270hp and 425 ft. lbs. of torque…AND gets 30mpg on the highway.

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