huge topic:Americans keep getting fatter

[ocrenter]

[quote=weberlin]

Regardless of intent, Butz is the guy that set the ball rolling on large corporations pushing out small farmers to get ridiculous subsidies. These subsidies were initially priced to incentivize food production to lower the cost of food for families in the 60’s. Unfortunately, these subsidies have only increased since their initial adoption.[/quote]

so perhaps simply redirecting the subsidies toward production of healthier food?

[Aecetia]

You do have to wonder about government subsidies. I heard there might be some kind of attempt to prevent small backyard producers from selling or giving away their food in a bill, but I could not find it to verify. Farmer’s markets seems to be one of the better places to get fresh produce, honey, etc. This has been discussed before, but I would like to put aspartame on the contributing to obesity. Some doctors consider it a deadly neurotoxin.

[Aecetia]

You do have to wonder about government subsidies. I heard there might be some kind of attempt to prevent small backyard producers from selling or giving away their food in a bill, but I could not find it to verify. Farmer’s markets seems to be one of the better places to get fresh produce, honey, etc. This has been discussed before, but I would like to put aspartame on the contributing to obesity. Some doctors consider it a deadly neurotoxin.

[Aecetia]

You do have to wonder about government subsidies. I heard there might be some kind of attempt to prevent small backyard producers from selling or giving away their food in a bill, but I could not find it to verify. Farmer’s markets seems to be one of the better places to get fresh produce, honey, etc. This has been discussed before, but I would like to put aspartame on the contributing to obesity. Some doctors consider it a deadly neurotoxin.

[Aecetia]

You do have to wonder about government subsidies. I heard there might be some kind of attempt to prevent small backyard producers from selling or giving away their food in a bill, but I could not find it to verify. Farmer’s markets seems to be one of the better places to get fresh produce, honey, etc. This has been discussed before, but I would like to put aspartame on the contributing to obesity. Some doctors consider it a deadly neurotoxin.

[Aecetia]

You do have to wonder about government subsidies. I heard there might be some kind of attempt to prevent small backyard producers from selling or giving away their food in a bill, but I could not find it to verify. Farmer’s markets seems to be one of the better places to get fresh produce, honey, etc. This has been discussed before, but I would like to put aspartame on the contributing to obesity. Some doctors consider it a deadly neurotoxin.

[Operation]

It’s all about meat.

I’m down 15lbs since end of March. I cut out meat & dairy & basically went Vegan for 30 days. I still have fish & eggs on occasion and am now pretty much a Vegetarian.

I just started hitting the free weights & cardio in the gym the last 2 weeks.

I feel & look lighter, leaner and have more energy. One thing I think many posters have ignored is the rise in meat consumption (fast or not) is directly tied to the rise in obesity:

http://www.jhsph.edu/publichealthnews/press_releases/2009/wang_meat_consumption_obesity

The rise in meat consumption, particularly pork & diary in various parts of Asia has more to do with rising incomes than the prevalence of Western fast food.

“Beef, it’s what’s for dinner” and lunch, and breakfast…

Meat & dairy consumption, is simply not sustainable for both our waists, health and environment. For eons, we have lived off fruits, vegetables and grains with the occasional grilled animal.

[Operation]

It’s all about meat.

I’m down 15lbs since end of March. I cut out meat & dairy & basically went Vegan for 30 days. I still have fish & eggs on occasion and am now pretty much a Vegetarian.

I just started hitting the free weights & cardio in the gym the last 2 weeks.

I feel & look lighter, leaner and have more energy. One thing I think many posters have ignored is the rise in meat consumption (fast or not) is directly tied to the rise in obesity:

http://www.jhsph.edu/publichealthnews/press_releases/2009/wang_meat_consumption_obesity

The rise in meat consumption, particularly pork & diary in various parts of Asia has more to do with rising incomes than the prevalence of Western fast food.

“Beef, it’s what’s for dinner” and lunch, and breakfast…

Meat & dairy consumption, is simply not sustainable for both our waists, health and environment. For eons, we have lived off fruits, vegetables and grains with the occasional grilled animal.

[Operation]

It’s all about meat.

I’m down 15lbs since end of March. I cut out meat & dairy & basically went Vegan for 30 days. I still have fish & eggs on occasion and am now pretty much a Vegetarian.

I just started hitting the free weights & cardio in the gym the last 2 weeks.

I feel & look lighter, leaner and have more energy. One thing I think many posters have ignored is the rise in meat consumption (fast or not) is directly tied to the rise in obesity:

http://www.jhsph.edu/publichealthnews/press_releases/2009/wang_meat_consumption_obesity

The rise in meat consumption, particularly pork & diary in various parts of Asia has more to do with rising incomes than the prevalence of Western fast food.

“Beef, it’s what’s for dinner” and lunch, and breakfast…

Meat & dairy consumption, is simply not sustainable for both our waists, health and environment. For eons, we have lived off fruits, vegetables and grains with the occasional grilled animal.

[Operation]

It’s all about meat.

I’m down 15lbs since end of March. I cut out meat & dairy & basically went Vegan for 30 days. I still have fish & eggs on occasion and am now pretty much a Vegetarian.

I just started hitting the free weights & cardio in the gym the last 2 weeks.

I feel & look lighter, leaner and have more energy. One thing I think many posters have ignored is the rise in meat consumption (fast or not) is directly tied to the rise in obesity:

http://www.jhsph.edu/publichealthnews/press_releases/2009/wang_meat_consumption_obesity

The rise in meat consumption, particularly pork & diary in various parts of Asia has more to do with rising incomes than the prevalence of Western fast food.

“Beef, it’s what’s for dinner” and lunch, and breakfast…

Meat & dairy consumption, is simply not sustainable for both our waists, health and environment. For eons, we have lived off fruits, vegetables and grains with the occasional grilled animal.

[Operation]

It’s all about meat.

I’m down 15lbs since end of March. I cut out meat & dairy & basically went Vegan for 30 days. I still have fish & eggs on occasion and am now pretty much a Vegetarian.

I just started hitting the free weights & cardio in the gym the last 2 weeks.

I feel & look lighter, leaner and have more energy. One thing I think many posters have ignored is the rise in meat consumption (fast or not) is directly tied to the rise in obesity:

http://www.jhsph.edu/publichealthnews/press_releases/2009/wang_meat_consumption_obesity

The rise in meat consumption, particularly pork & diary in various parts of Asia has more to do with rising incomes than the prevalence of Western fast food.

“Beef, it’s what’s for dinner” and lunch, and breakfast…

Meat & dairy consumption, is simply not sustainable for both our waists, health and environment. For eons, we have lived off fruits, vegetables and grains with the occasional grilled animal.

[briansd1]

[quote=jeeman]
Ever tried to help someone with what they eat? It produces just as much conflict as politics and religion.[/quote]

Food is very emotional and cultural.

We have to look at it scientifically.

I tell friends and relatives that we’ll know who is right when we turn 50 then 80.

At 50, he who looks best wins.

At 80, he who is healthiest and still going strong wins.

[quote=Operation]
Meat & dairy consumption, is simply not sustainable for both our waists, health and environment. For eons, we have lived off fruits, vegetables and grains with the occasional grilled animal.[/quote]

I agree. That’s the best way to live a long healthy life.

Vegetarians who eat gluten and processed food are however not helping themselves.

The simple solution is to not eat any processed food of any kind (maybe occasionally at gatherings with friends and family).

[briansd1]

[quote=jeeman]
Ever tried to help someone with what they eat? It produces just as much conflict as politics and religion.[/quote]

Food is very emotional and cultural.

We have to look at it scientifically.

I tell friends and relatives that we’ll know who is right when we turn 50 then 80.

At 50, he who looks best wins.

At 80, he who is healthiest and still going strong wins.

[quote=Operation]
Meat & dairy consumption, is simply not sustainable for both our waists, health and environment. For eons, we have lived off fruits, vegetables and grains with the occasional grilled animal.[/quote]

I agree. That’s the best way to live a long healthy life.

Vegetarians who eat gluten and processed food are however not helping themselves.

The simple solution is to not eat any processed food of any kind (maybe occasionally at gatherings with friends and family).

[briansd1]

[quote=jeeman]
Ever tried to help someone with what they eat? It produces just as much conflict as politics and religion.[/quote]

Food is very emotional and cultural.

We have to look at it scientifically.

I tell friends and relatives that we’ll know who is right when we turn 50 then 80.

At 50, he who looks best wins.

At 80, he who is healthiest and still going strong wins.

[quote=Operation]
Meat & dairy consumption, is simply not sustainable for both our waists, health and environment. For eons, we have lived off fruits, vegetables and grains with the occasional grilled animal.[/quote]

I agree. That’s the best way to live a long healthy life.

Vegetarians who eat gluten and processed food are however not helping themselves.

The simple solution is to not eat any processed food of any kind (maybe occasionally at gatherings with friends and family).

[briansd1]

[quote=jeeman]
Ever tried to help someone with what they eat? It produces just as much conflict as politics and religion.[/quote]

Food is very emotional and cultural.

We have to look at it scientifically.

I tell friends and relatives that we’ll know who is right when we turn 50 then 80.

At 50, he who looks best wins.

At 80, he who is healthiest and still going strong wins.

[quote=Operation]
Meat & dairy consumption, is simply not sustainable for both our waists, health and environment. For eons, we have lived off fruits, vegetables and grains with the occasional grilled animal.[/quote]

I agree. That’s the best way to live a long healthy life.

Vegetarians who eat gluten and processed food are however not helping themselves.

The simple solution is to not eat any processed food of any kind (maybe occasionally at gatherings with friends and family).

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