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February 18, 2008 at 11:25 PM #155732February 19, 2008 at 4:39 AM #1553854plexownerParticipant
E-1 (buck private) in Marines makes $1245.90 per month
E-5 (Sargent) with 6 years in makes $2405.10 per month
E-6 (staff sargent) with 12 years – $3105.00 per month
O-1 (starting officer grade) – $2555.70 per month
O-3 (captain) with 4 years in $4545.60 per month
http://www.defenselink.mil/militarypay/pay/bp/paytables/2008%20Basic%20Pay%20Table%20_capped.pdf
If the Marine is living off base they get a food allowance – $202.76/month for officers and $294.43 for enlisted
The housing allowance varies by region and I didn’t find numbers for San Diego county
Perhaps the income numbers above aren’t so bad if your rent or mortgage is also paid by the military
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As far as the Marines supporting the local economy – talk to some business owners and/or landlords in Oceanside about their economy when the Marines are deployed
February 19, 2008 at 4:39 AM #1556654plexownerParticipantE-1 (buck private) in Marines makes $1245.90 per month
E-5 (Sargent) with 6 years in makes $2405.10 per month
E-6 (staff sargent) with 12 years – $3105.00 per month
O-1 (starting officer grade) – $2555.70 per month
O-3 (captain) with 4 years in $4545.60 per month
http://www.defenselink.mil/militarypay/pay/bp/paytables/2008%20Basic%20Pay%20Table%20_capped.pdf
If the Marine is living off base they get a food allowance – $202.76/month for officers and $294.43 for enlisted
The housing allowance varies by region and I didn’t find numbers for San Diego county
Perhaps the income numbers above aren’t so bad if your rent or mortgage is also paid by the military
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As far as the Marines supporting the local economy – talk to some business owners and/or landlords in Oceanside about their economy when the Marines are deployed
February 19, 2008 at 4:39 AM #1556714plexownerParticipantE-1 (buck private) in Marines makes $1245.90 per month
E-5 (Sargent) with 6 years in makes $2405.10 per month
E-6 (staff sargent) with 12 years – $3105.00 per month
O-1 (starting officer grade) – $2555.70 per month
O-3 (captain) with 4 years in $4545.60 per month
http://www.defenselink.mil/militarypay/pay/bp/paytables/2008%20Basic%20Pay%20Table%20_capped.pdf
If the Marine is living off base they get a food allowance – $202.76/month for officers and $294.43 for enlisted
The housing allowance varies by region and I didn’t find numbers for San Diego county
Perhaps the income numbers above aren’t so bad if your rent or mortgage is also paid by the military
~
As far as the Marines supporting the local economy – talk to some business owners and/or landlords in Oceanside about their economy when the Marines are deployed
February 19, 2008 at 4:39 AM #1556874plexownerParticipantE-1 (buck private) in Marines makes $1245.90 per month
E-5 (Sargent) with 6 years in makes $2405.10 per month
E-6 (staff sargent) with 12 years – $3105.00 per month
O-1 (starting officer grade) – $2555.70 per month
O-3 (captain) with 4 years in $4545.60 per month
http://www.defenselink.mil/militarypay/pay/bp/paytables/2008%20Basic%20Pay%20Table%20_capped.pdf
If the Marine is living off base they get a food allowance – $202.76/month for officers and $294.43 for enlisted
The housing allowance varies by region and I didn’t find numbers for San Diego county
Perhaps the income numbers above aren’t so bad if your rent or mortgage is also paid by the military
~
As far as the Marines supporting the local economy – talk to some business owners and/or landlords in Oceanside about their economy when the Marines are deployed
February 19, 2008 at 4:39 AM #1557614plexownerParticipantE-1 (buck private) in Marines makes $1245.90 per month
E-5 (Sargent) with 6 years in makes $2405.10 per month
E-6 (staff sargent) with 12 years – $3105.00 per month
O-1 (starting officer grade) – $2555.70 per month
O-3 (captain) with 4 years in $4545.60 per month
http://www.defenselink.mil/militarypay/pay/bp/paytables/2008%20Basic%20Pay%20Table%20_capped.pdf
If the Marine is living off base they get a food allowance – $202.76/month for officers and $294.43 for enlisted
The housing allowance varies by region and I didn’t find numbers for San Diego county
Perhaps the income numbers above aren’t so bad if your rent or mortgage is also paid by the military
~
As far as the Marines supporting the local economy – talk to some business owners and/or landlords in Oceanside about their economy when the Marines are deployed
February 19, 2008 at 6:54 AM #155405Nor-LA-SD-guyParticipantNor-La-SD-Guy
If I am not mistaken I think there are Three fortune 500 companies in the Temecula valley, Abbott Labs for starters, I think another one is international rectifier can’t remember the third.
Also I think Temecula has always been kind of a retirement haven. but that may be changing as it has grown.
February 19, 2008 at 6:54 AM #155685Nor-LA-SD-guyParticipantNor-La-SD-Guy
If I am not mistaken I think there are Three fortune 500 companies in the Temecula valley, Abbott Labs for starters, I think another one is international rectifier can’t remember the third.
Also I think Temecula has always been kind of a retirement haven. but that may be changing as it has grown.
February 19, 2008 at 6:54 AM #155690Nor-LA-SD-guyParticipantNor-La-SD-Guy
If I am not mistaken I think there are Three fortune 500 companies in the Temecula valley, Abbott Labs for starters, I think another one is international rectifier can’t remember the third.
Also I think Temecula has always been kind of a retirement haven. but that may be changing as it has grown.
February 19, 2008 at 6:54 AM #155708Nor-LA-SD-guyParticipantNor-La-SD-Guy
If I am not mistaken I think there are Three fortune 500 companies in the Temecula valley, Abbott Labs for starters, I think another one is international rectifier can’t remember the third.
Also I think Temecula has always been kind of a retirement haven. but that may be changing as it has grown.
February 19, 2008 at 6:54 AM #155782Nor-LA-SD-guyParticipantNor-La-SD-Guy
If I am not mistaken I think there are Three fortune 500 companies in the Temecula valley, Abbott Labs for starters, I think another one is international rectifier can’t remember the third.
Also I think Temecula has always been kind of a retirement haven. but that may be changing as it has grown.
February 19, 2008 at 7:31 AM #155430SDHousehunterParticipantInteresting comments by everyone.
Morgan Hill will hit $75
I want to please remind everyone that housing is not falling because noone wants to by homes. Housing is falling because Banks DO NOT WANT TO LEND TO PEOPLE!
This crisis is a credit crisis. . . . and until we solve the CDO Swap Tsunami that is coming there will be no available capital to invest into Mortgage Backed Securities as was the early part of this dcade. I think the Chinese have already digested enough of our toxic waste debt that I doubt anyone else will buy our paper.
Until that happens lending criteria will tighten, salaries will decrease and sales will decline. On order for liquidity flow to continue housing deflation is inevitable. . .. prices have to decline.
A good friend of mine is an investment bank analyst for real estate. His comment is that we are returning to a lending model structure of the late 80s.
Prices do not go down 24% annually and then up 10% in the absence of a growing credit market.
We will see 20% decline in 2008, 14% decline in 2009, 8% decline in 2010.
This bust will bleed itself out and then by then credit markets will have stabilized and we can reinject life into the carcass known as “residential housing.”
The automotive market is a slaughter as well. This is not because housing is going down but that banks can’t make the lending profitable given prior criteria.
Best of luck to all of you 🙂
SDhousehunter
February 19, 2008 at 7:31 AM #155711SDHousehunterParticipantInteresting comments by everyone.
Morgan Hill will hit $75
I want to please remind everyone that housing is not falling because noone wants to by homes. Housing is falling because Banks DO NOT WANT TO LEND TO PEOPLE!
This crisis is a credit crisis. . . . and until we solve the CDO Swap Tsunami that is coming there will be no available capital to invest into Mortgage Backed Securities as was the early part of this dcade. I think the Chinese have already digested enough of our toxic waste debt that I doubt anyone else will buy our paper.
Until that happens lending criteria will tighten, salaries will decrease and sales will decline. On order for liquidity flow to continue housing deflation is inevitable. . .. prices have to decline.
A good friend of mine is an investment bank analyst for real estate. His comment is that we are returning to a lending model structure of the late 80s.
Prices do not go down 24% annually and then up 10% in the absence of a growing credit market.
We will see 20% decline in 2008, 14% decline in 2009, 8% decline in 2010.
This bust will bleed itself out and then by then credit markets will have stabilized and we can reinject life into the carcass known as “residential housing.”
The automotive market is a slaughter as well. This is not because housing is going down but that banks can’t make the lending profitable given prior criteria.
Best of luck to all of you 🙂
SDhousehunter
February 19, 2008 at 7:31 AM #155715SDHousehunterParticipantInteresting comments by everyone.
Morgan Hill will hit $75
I want to please remind everyone that housing is not falling because noone wants to by homes. Housing is falling because Banks DO NOT WANT TO LEND TO PEOPLE!
This crisis is a credit crisis. . . . and until we solve the CDO Swap Tsunami that is coming there will be no available capital to invest into Mortgage Backed Securities as was the early part of this dcade. I think the Chinese have already digested enough of our toxic waste debt that I doubt anyone else will buy our paper.
Until that happens lending criteria will tighten, salaries will decrease and sales will decline. On order for liquidity flow to continue housing deflation is inevitable. . .. prices have to decline.
A good friend of mine is an investment bank analyst for real estate. His comment is that we are returning to a lending model structure of the late 80s.
Prices do not go down 24% annually and then up 10% in the absence of a growing credit market.
We will see 20% decline in 2008, 14% decline in 2009, 8% decline in 2010.
This bust will bleed itself out and then by then credit markets will have stabilized and we can reinject life into the carcass known as “residential housing.”
The automotive market is a slaughter as well. This is not because housing is going down but that banks can’t make the lending profitable given prior criteria.
Best of luck to all of you 🙂
SDhousehunter
February 19, 2008 at 7:31 AM #155733SDHousehunterParticipantInteresting comments by everyone.
Morgan Hill will hit $75
I want to please remind everyone that housing is not falling because noone wants to by homes. Housing is falling because Banks DO NOT WANT TO LEND TO PEOPLE!
This crisis is a credit crisis. . . . and until we solve the CDO Swap Tsunami that is coming there will be no available capital to invest into Mortgage Backed Securities as was the early part of this dcade. I think the Chinese have already digested enough of our toxic waste debt that I doubt anyone else will buy our paper.
Until that happens lending criteria will tighten, salaries will decrease and sales will decline. On order for liquidity flow to continue housing deflation is inevitable. . .. prices have to decline.
A good friend of mine is an investment bank analyst for real estate. His comment is that we are returning to a lending model structure of the late 80s.
Prices do not go down 24% annually and then up 10% in the absence of a growing credit market.
We will see 20% decline in 2008, 14% decline in 2009, 8% decline in 2010.
This bust will bleed itself out and then by then credit markets will have stabilized and we can reinject life into the carcass known as “residential housing.”
The automotive market is a slaughter as well. This is not because housing is going down but that banks can’t make the lending profitable given prior criteria.
Best of luck to all of you 🙂
SDhousehunter
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