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November 11, 2009 at 12:19 PM #481405November 11, 2009 at 12:34 PM #480582
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ParticipantSamle sizes of 1 are typically not good for applying results to general populations.
As long as there are some market forces involved, he is neither under or overpaid.
November 11, 2009 at 12:34 PM #480754ParticipantSamle sizes of 1 are typically not good for applying results to general populations.
As long as there are some market forces involved, he is neither under or overpaid.
November 11, 2009 at 12:34 PM #481115ParticipantSamle sizes of 1 are typically not good for applying results to general populations.
As long as there are some market forces involved, he is neither under or overpaid.
November 11, 2009 at 12:34 PM #481195ParticipantSamle sizes of 1 are typically not good for applying results to general populations.
As long as there are some market forces involved, he is neither under or overpaid.
November 11, 2009 at 12:34 PM #481415ParticipantSamle sizes of 1 are typically not good for applying results to general populations.
As long as there are some market forces involved, he is neither under or overpaid.
November 11, 2009 at 12:51 PM #480592kev374
Participant[quote=SD Realtor]I would say anybody that has to spend 6 hours a day with alot of children is earning money. To me being a teacher working those hours 9 months a year is A HELL of alot harder then being an engineer and writing code all day.[/quote]
I disagree. The amount of knowledge, creative thinking and deadline pressures you have to deal with on some of these Engineering projects is far greater than any high school teacher will experience I can tell you that.
How much knowledge do you need to put kids in line? How much knowledge and experience do you think one needs to fix a mission critical multi million dollar system that breaks down in the middle of the night and needs to be resolved before the start of business next morning?
Comparing the two is just ridiculous!
November 11, 2009 at 12:51 PM #480764Participant[quote=SD Realtor]I would say anybody that has to spend 6 hours a day with alot of children is earning money. To me being a teacher working those hours 9 months a year is A HELL of alot harder then being an engineer and writing code all day.[/quote]
I disagree. The amount of knowledge, creative thinking and deadline pressures you have to deal with on some of these Engineering projects is far greater than any high school teacher will experience I can tell you that.
How much knowledge do you need to put kids in line? How much knowledge and experience do you think one needs to fix a mission critical multi million dollar system that breaks down in the middle of the night and needs to be resolved before the start of business next morning?
Comparing the two is just ridiculous!
November 11, 2009 at 12:51 PM #481124Participant[quote=SD Realtor]I would say anybody that has to spend 6 hours a day with alot of children is earning money. To me being a teacher working those hours 9 months a year is A HELL of alot harder then being an engineer and writing code all day.[/quote]
I disagree. The amount of knowledge, creative thinking and deadline pressures you have to deal with on some of these Engineering projects is far greater than any high school teacher will experience I can tell you that.
How much knowledge do you need to put kids in line? How much knowledge and experience do you think one needs to fix a mission critical multi million dollar system that breaks down in the middle of the night and needs to be resolved before the start of business next morning?
Comparing the two is just ridiculous!
November 11, 2009 at 12:51 PM #481204Participant[quote=SD Realtor]I would say anybody that has to spend 6 hours a day with alot of children is earning money. To me being a teacher working those hours 9 months a year is A HELL of alot harder then being an engineer and writing code all day.[/quote]
I disagree. The amount of knowledge, creative thinking and deadline pressures you have to deal with on some of these Engineering projects is far greater than any high school teacher will experience I can tell you that.
How much knowledge do you need to put kids in line? How much knowledge and experience do you think one needs to fix a mission critical multi million dollar system that breaks down in the middle of the night and needs to be resolved before the start of business next morning?
Comparing the two is just ridiculous!
November 11, 2009 at 12:51 PM #481425Participant[quote=SD Realtor]I would say anybody that has to spend 6 hours a day with alot of children is earning money. To me being a teacher working those hours 9 months a year is A HELL of alot harder then being an engineer and writing code all day.[/quote]
I disagree. The amount of knowledge, creative thinking and deadline pressures you have to deal with on some of these Engineering projects is far greater than any high school teacher will experience I can tell you that.
How much knowledge do you need to put kids in line? How much knowledge and experience do you think one needs to fix a mission critical multi million dollar system that breaks down in the middle of the night and needs to be resolved before the start of business next morning?
Comparing the two is just ridiculous!
November 11, 2009 at 2:04 PM #480636SDEngineer
Participant[quote=kev374][quote=Arraya]Actually, you can look up teachers salaries on salarywizard.com. 70k a year is about right for a teacher with 10 years experience. [/quote]
Considering Software Engineers with 10 years experience are being offered $70k salaries these days I think paying that to a high school teachers is ludicrous, it should be more like $30k considering it is only for 9 months of work.[/quote]
Wow – so you think a software engineer with less formal schooling (assuming a BS) and the same amount of experience should be paid double what a HS teacher receives? No wonder our schools are in such bad shape. My personal opinion is that shorting the people who are teaching the next generation is pretty short-sighted thinking. I’d love to see those careers pay significantly higher so that they could attract the very best applicants away from private sector.
In any case, while some companies may be offering $70K for an engineer, I can pretty much say with a certainty that they won’t be doing that for very much longer. My company tried to go the cheap route on contract engineers over the past year, paying roughly those rates. We recently convinced corporate HR that it was a losing proposition to try to lowball engineers, after losing 5 of them to competitors willing to pay normal market rates, most of them only 3-4 months after hiring. Our rate for a 10 year experienced engineer is back into the 90K+ range again.
November 11, 2009 at 2:04 PM #480807Participant[quote=kev374][quote=Arraya]Actually, you can look up teachers salaries on salarywizard.com. 70k a year is about right for a teacher with 10 years experience. [/quote]
Considering Software Engineers with 10 years experience are being offered $70k salaries these days I think paying that to a high school teachers is ludicrous, it should be more like $30k considering it is only for 9 months of work.[/quote]
Wow – so you think a software engineer with less formal schooling (assuming a BS) and the same amount of experience should be paid double what a HS teacher receives? No wonder our schools are in such bad shape. My personal opinion is that shorting the people who are teaching the next generation is pretty short-sighted thinking. I’d love to see those careers pay significantly higher so that they could attract the very best applicants away from private sector.
In any case, while some companies may be offering $70K for an engineer, I can pretty much say with a certainty that they won’t be doing that for very much longer. My company tried to go the cheap route on contract engineers over the past year, paying roughly those rates. We recently convinced corporate HR that it was a losing proposition to try to lowball engineers, after losing 5 of them to competitors willing to pay normal market rates, most of them only 3-4 months after hiring. Our rate for a 10 year experienced engineer is back into the 90K+ range again.
November 11, 2009 at 2:04 PM #481168Participant[quote=kev374][quote=Arraya]Actually, you can look up teachers salaries on salarywizard.com. 70k a year is about right for a teacher with 10 years experience. [/quote]
Considering Software Engineers with 10 years experience are being offered $70k salaries these days I think paying that to a high school teachers is ludicrous, it should be more like $30k considering it is only for 9 months of work.[/quote]
Wow – so you think a software engineer with less formal schooling (assuming a BS) and the same amount of experience should be paid double what a HS teacher receives? No wonder our schools are in such bad shape. My personal opinion is that shorting the people who are teaching the next generation is pretty short-sighted thinking. I’d love to see those careers pay significantly higher so that they could attract the very best applicants away from private sector.
In any case, while some companies may be offering $70K for an engineer, I can pretty much say with a certainty that they won’t be doing that for very much longer. My company tried to go the cheap route on contract engineers over the past year, paying roughly those rates. We recently convinced corporate HR that it was a losing proposition to try to lowball engineers, after losing 5 of them to competitors willing to pay normal market rates, most of them only 3-4 months after hiring. Our rate for a 10 year experienced engineer is back into the 90K+ range again.
November 11, 2009 at 2:04 PM #481248Participant[quote=kev374][quote=Arraya]Actually, you can look up teachers salaries on salarywizard.com. 70k a year is about right for a teacher with 10 years experience. [/quote]
Considering Software Engineers with 10 years experience are being offered $70k salaries these days I think paying that to a high school teachers is ludicrous, it should be more like $30k considering it is only for 9 months of work.[/quote]
Wow – so you think a software engineer with less formal schooling (assuming a BS) and the same amount of experience should be paid double what a HS teacher receives? No wonder our schools are in such bad shape. My personal opinion is that shorting the people who are teaching the next generation is pretty short-sighted thinking. I’d love to see those careers pay significantly higher so that they could attract the very best applicants away from private sector.
In any case, while some companies may be offering $70K for an engineer, I can pretty much say with a certainty that they won’t be doing that for very much longer. My company tried to go the cheap route on contract engineers over the past year, paying roughly those rates. We recently convinced corporate HR that it was a losing proposition to try to lowball engineers, after losing 5 of them to competitors willing to pay normal market rates, most of them only 3-4 months after hiring. Our rate for a 10 year experienced engineer is back into the 90K+ range again.
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