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November 29, 2007 at 12:34 AM #105132November 29, 2007 at 12:54 AM #104991
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GuestTC guy,
😉 Thx. Yes, it is an enviable position which i have no intention of changing. It would be (almost) as devistating to loose the wife, as it would be to lose the kids.
As you correctly mentioned, that social ills are caused by the sprinkler syndrome (squirts bushes and leaves), i would raise that bet by saying it is the selfish side/nature of the act which can easily be perpetrated by either gender. People always wanting that little bit more, just ‘one more step up’. Where spouses and kids can be merely a fashion accessory to show off or brag about. Enrolling them in a good school becomes fashionable instead of educational when parents take little interest in the material.
It is just sad to see……and since we are on a housing forum…..it is the same attitude which evoked the term ‘starter home’ implying that moving ‘up’ is a necessity not just a luxury. It is easy to be inspired by people who bet on housing futures with no money down when they had nothing to lose. Those that didnt or werent able to unwind their position before their bets failed lost nothing…….the bag holders become the last person in the line holding the note on the loan. Systematic problem.
People who heloced and 0% downed their way into a primary residence beyond their means is indicitive of what we ‘need’ in society today. Ah well……and so it goes…
Marion,
Hope you can find a way to be happy that you have your two boys, regardless of your financial condition and not qualifying it or using your sons to justify your fininacial quest against your ex. Quit feeling sorry for yourself and quit focusing your efforts on redemption in the situation with your ex.
Your boys will respect you eternally as a strong woman who held no ill-will against her fellow man (ex-husband); a woman who turned the other cheek in the face of being slighted, picked up, dusted off and carried on with style.
How much is the lesson of diligence and personal responsibilty worth to your boys? Kids are infintely better than adults at learning morals….clean slate that they are and all. Is it really worth sacrificing the moral standing of your boys for your ‘needed’ $$x,000’s per month? If you’re seeing this as a chance to show them it is worth fighting for what you believe in…….they will only see that fighting for money is worthwhile. Because that’s what it is. Courts can order money settlements, but they cant order ex-husbands to take responsibility to heart.
You are not fighting for princle, or for the love of your boys….quite the oppisite….you are fighting for revenge, satisfaction and money. Belive me, your boys won’t and arent missing that lesson at all. When you have your finger in the air wagging it at that bastard ex husband of yours, three fingers are pointing back at you.
“how much is he worth?” From your description, running off and leaving his kids, he isnt worth much at all.
The better question “how much are you worth?” And is it worth enough to take what the courts give with appreciation, without bitterness or resentment, and teach your boys a lesson they will remember forever. They will recognize the injustice, if there is one, without you having to spell it out. This alone will carve out their attitudes towards women leading them to treat women better….and, when it comes time for them to find a spouse, they’ll be looking for the ones that were cut from the same cloth as their mother with the strenth and human spirit of mom.
J
November 29, 2007 at 12:54 AM #105079GuestTC guy,
😉 Thx. Yes, it is an enviable position which i have no intention of changing. It would be (almost) as devistating to loose the wife, as it would be to lose the kids.
As you correctly mentioned, that social ills are caused by the sprinkler syndrome (squirts bushes and leaves), i would raise that bet by saying it is the selfish side/nature of the act which can easily be perpetrated by either gender. People always wanting that little bit more, just ‘one more step up’. Where spouses and kids can be merely a fashion accessory to show off or brag about. Enrolling them in a good school becomes fashionable instead of educational when parents take little interest in the material.
It is just sad to see……and since we are on a housing forum…..it is the same attitude which evoked the term ‘starter home’ implying that moving ‘up’ is a necessity not just a luxury. It is easy to be inspired by people who bet on housing futures with no money down when they had nothing to lose. Those that didnt or werent able to unwind their position before their bets failed lost nothing…….the bag holders become the last person in the line holding the note on the loan. Systematic problem.
People who heloced and 0% downed their way into a primary residence beyond their means is indicitive of what we ‘need’ in society today. Ah well……and so it goes…
Marion,
Hope you can find a way to be happy that you have your two boys, regardless of your financial condition and not qualifying it or using your sons to justify your fininacial quest against your ex. Quit feeling sorry for yourself and quit focusing your efforts on redemption in the situation with your ex.
Your boys will respect you eternally as a strong woman who held no ill-will against her fellow man (ex-husband); a woman who turned the other cheek in the face of being slighted, picked up, dusted off and carried on with style.
How much is the lesson of diligence and personal responsibilty worth to your boys? Kids are infintely better than adults at learning morals….clean slate that they are and all. Is it really worth sacrificing the moral standing of your boys for your ‘needed’ $$x,000’s per month? If you’re seeing this as a chance to show them it is worth fighting for what you believe in…….they will only see that fighting for money is worthwhile. Because that’s what it is. Courts can order money settlements, but they cant order ex-husbands to take responsibility to heart.
You are not fighting for princle, or for the love of your boys….quite the oppisite….you are fighting for revenge, satisfaction and money. Belive me, your boys won’t and arent missing that lesson at all. When you have your finger in the air wagging it at that bastard ex husband of yours, three fingers are pointing back at you.
“how much is he worth?” From your description, running off and leaving his kids, he isnt worth much at all.
The better question “how much are you worth?” And is it worth enough to take what the courts give with appreciation, without bitterness or resentment, and teach your boys a lesson they will remember forever. They will recognize the injustice, if there is one, without you having to spell it out. This alone will carve out their attitudes towards women leading them to treat women better….and, when it comes time for them to find a spouse, they’ll be looking for the ones that were cut from the same cloth as their mother with the strenth and human spirit of mom.
J
November 29, 2007 at 12:54 AM #105084GuestTC guy,
😉 Thx. Yes, it is an enviable position which i have no intention of changing. It would be (almost) as devistating to loose the wife, as it would be to lose the kids.
As you correctly mentioned, that social ills are caused by the sprinkler syndrome (squirts bushes and leaves), i would raise that bet by saying it is the selfish side/nature of the act which can easily be perpetrated by either gender. People always wanting that little bit more, just ‘one more step up’. Where spouses and kids can be merely a fashion accessory to show off or brag about. Enrolling them in a good school becomes fashionable instead of educational when parents take little interest in the material.
It is just sad to see……and since we are on a housing forum…..it is the same attitude which evoked the term ‘starter home’ implying that moving ‘up’ is a necessity not just a luxury. It is easy to be inspired by people who bet on housing futures with no money down when they had nothing to lose. Those that didnt or werent able to unwind their position before their bets failed lost nothing…….the bag holders become the last person in the line holding the note on the loan. Systematic problem.
People who heloced and 0% downed their way into a primary residence beyond their means is indicitive of what we ‘need’ in society today. Ah well……and so it goes…
Marion,
Hope you can find a way to be happy that you have your two boys, regardless of your financial condition and not qualifying it or using your sons to justify your fininacial quest against your ex. Quit feeling sorry for yourself and quit focusing your efforts on redemption in the situation with your ex.
Your boys will respect you eternally as a strong woman who held no ill-will against her fellow man (ex-husband); a woman who turned the other cheek in the face of being slighted, picked up, dusted off and carried on with style.
How much is the lesson of diligence and personal responsibilty worth to your boys? Kids are infintely better than adults at learning morals….clean slate that they are and all. Is it really worth sacrificing the moral standing of your boys for your ‘needed’ $$x,000’s per month? If you’re seeing this as a chance to show them it is worth fighting for what you believe in…….they will only see that fighting for money is worthwhile. Because that’s what it is. Courts can order money settlements, but they cant order ex-husbands to take responsibility to heart.
You are not fighting for princle, or for the love of your boys….quite the oppisite….you are fighting for revenge, satisfaction and money. Belive me, your boys won’t and arent missing that lesson at all. When you have your finger in the air wagging it at that bastard ex husband of yours, three fingers are pointing back at you.
“how much is he worth?” From your description, running off and leaving his kids, he isnt worth much at all.
The better question “how much are you worth?” And is it worth enough to take what the courts give with appreciation, without bitterness or resentment, and teach your boys a lesson they will remember forever. They will recognize the injustice, if there is one, without you having to spell it out. This alone will carve out their attitudes towards women leading them to treat women better….and, when it comes time for them to find a spouse, they’ll be looking for the ones that were cut from the same cloth as their mother with the strenth and human spirit of mom.
J
November 29, 2007 at 12:54 AM #105115GuestTC guy,
😉 Thx. Yes, it is an enviable position which i have no intention of changing. It would be (almost) as devistating to loose the wife, as it would be to lose the kids.
As you correctly mentioned, that social ills are caused by the sprinkler syndrome (squirts bushes and leaves), i would raise that bet by saying it is the selfish side/nature of the act which can easily be perpetrated by either gender. People always wanting that little bit more, just ‘one more step up’. Where spouses and kids can be merely a fashion accessory to show off or brag about. Enrolling them in a good school becomes fashionable instead of educational when parents take little interest in the material.
It is just sad to see……and since we are on a housing forum…..it is the same attitude which evoked the term ‘starter home’ implying that moving ‘up’ is a necessity not just a luxury. It is easy to be inspired by people who bet on housing futures with no money down when they had nothing to lose. Those that didnt or werent able to unwind their position before their bets failed lost nothing…….the bag holders become the last person in the line holding the note on the loan. Systematic problem.
People who heloced and 0% downed their way into a primary residence beyond their means is indicitive of what we ‘need’ in society today. Ah well……and so it goes…
Marion,
Hope you can find a way to be happy that you have your two boys, regardless of your financial condition and not qualifying it or using your sons to justify your fininacial quest against your ex. Quit feeling sorry for yourself and quit focusing your efforts on redemption in the situation with your ex.
Your boys will respect you eternally as a strong woman who held no ill-will against her fellow man (ex-husband); a woman who turned the other cheek in the face of being slighted, picked up, dusted off and carried on with style.
How much is the lesson of diligence and personal responsibilty worth to your boys? Kids are infintely better than adults at learning morals….clean slate that they are and all. Is it really worth sacrificing the moral standing of your boys for your ‘needed’ $$x,000’s per month? If you’re seeing this as a chance to show them it is worth fighting for what you believe in…….they will only see that fighting for money is worthwhile. Because that’s what it is. Courts can order money settlements, but they cant order ex-husbands to take responsibility to heart.
You are not fighting for princle, or for the love of your boys….quite the oppisite….you are fighting for revenge, satisfaction and money. Belive me, your boys won’t and arent missing that lesson at all. When you have your finger in the air wagging it at that bastard ex husband of yours, three fingers are pointing back at you.
“how much is he worth?” From your description, running off and leaving his kids, he isnt worth much at all.
The better question “how much are you worth?” And is it worth enough to take what the courts give with appreciation, without bitterness or resentment, and teach your boys a lesson they will remember forever. They will recognize the injustice, if there is one, without you having to spell it out. This alone will carve out their attitudes towards women leading them to treat women better….and, when it comes time for them to find a spouse, they’ll be looking for the ones that were cut from the same cloth as their mother with the strenth and human spirit of mom.
J
November 29, 2007 at 12:54 AM #105137GuestTC guy,
😉 Thx. Yes, it is an enviable position which i have no intention of changing. It would be (almost) as devistating to loose the wife, as it would be to lose the kids.
As you correctly mentioned, that social ills are caused by the sprinkler syndrome (squirts bushes and leaves), i would raise that bet by saying it is the selfish side/nature of the act which can easily be perpetrated by either gender. People always wanting that little bit more, just ‘one more step up’. Where spouses and kids can be merely a fashion accessory to show off or brag about. Enrolling them in a good school becomes fashionable instead of educational when parents take little interest in the material.
It is just sad to see……and since we are on a housing forum…..it is the same attitude which evoked the term ‘starter home’ implying that moving ‘up’ is a necessity not just a luxury. It is easy to be inspired by people who bet on housing futures with no money down when they had nothing to lose. Those that didnt or werent able to unwind their position before their bets failed lost nothing…….the bag holders become the last person in the line holding the note on the loan. Systematic problem.
People who heloced and 0% downed their way into a primary residence beyond their means is indicitive of what we ‘need’ in society today. Ah well……and so it goes…
Marion,
Hope you can find a way to be happy that you have your two boys, regardless of your financial condition and not qualifying it or using your sons to justify your fininacial quest against your ex. Quit feeling sorry for yourself and quit focusing your efforts on redemption in the situation with your ex.
Your boys will respect you eternally as a strong woman who held no ill-will against her fellow man (ex-husband); a woman who turned the other cheek in the face of being slighted, picked up, dusted off and carried on with style.
How much is the lesson of diligence and personal responsibilty worth to your boys? Kids are infintely better than adults at learning morals….clean slate that they are and all. Is it really worth sacrificing the moral standing of your boys for your ‘needed’ $$x,000’s per month? If you’re seeing this as a chance to show them it is worth fighting for what you believe in…….they will only see that fighting for money is worthwhile. Because that’s what it is. Courts can order money settlements, but they cant order ex-husbands to take responsibility to heart.
You are not fighting for princle, or for the love of your boys….quite the oppisite….you are fighting for revenge, satisfaction and money. Belive me, your boys won’t and arent missing that lesson at all. When you have your finger in the air wagging it at that bastard ex husband of yours, three fingers are pointing back at you.
“how much is he worth?” From your description, running off and leaving his kids, he isnt worth much at all.
The better question “how much are you worth?” And is it worth enough to take what the courts give with appreciation, without bitterness or resentment, and teach your boys a lesson they will remember forever. They will recognize the injustice, if there is one, without you having to spell it out. This alone will carve out their attitudes towards women leading them to treat women better….and, when it comes time for them to find a spouse, they’ll be looking for the ones that were cut from the same cloth as their mother with the strenth and human spirit of mom.
J
November 29, 2007 at 1:01 AM #104996GuestMega,
True, true. We all need money no doubt about it. Minimum wage is a tough spot to be in, kids or no kids. I am all for the heroine of our string, Marion, receiving her alloted child care from the courts. Dad ran off, he should take responsibility, she could receive support for her valiant efforts and good will towards her sons.
My point was made more for attitudes of why we fight and if those fights are indeed for the reasons we fool ourselves into believing……the courts will rule what they rule, the ex will pay whatever he pays, or as a deadbeat, nothing at all. If i were Marion, id take every penny. Try to appreciate every penny, and dont spend so much time worrying about the pennies that could have been…..
J
November 29, 2007 at 1:01 AM #105083GuestMega,
True, true. We all need money no doubt about it. Minimum wage is a tough spot to be in, kids or no kids. I am all for the heroine of our string, Marion, receiving her alloted child care from the courts. Dad ran off, he should take responsibility, she could receive support for her valiant efforts and good will towards her sons.
My point was made more for attitudes of why we fight and if those fights are indeed for the reasons we fool ourselves into believing……the courts will rule what they rule, the ex will pay whatever he pays, or as a deadbeat, nothing at all. If i were Marion, id take every penny. Try to appreciate every penny, and dont spend so much time worrying about the pennies that could have been…..
J
November 29, 2007 at 1:01 AM #105091GuestMega,
True, true. We all need money no doubt about it. Minimum wage is a tough spot to be in, kids or no kids. I am all for the heroine of our string, Marion, receiving her alloted child care from the courts. Dad ran off, he should take responsibility, she could receive support for her valiant efforts and good will towards her sons.
My point was made more for attitudes of why we fight and if those fights are indeed for the reasons we fool ourselves into believing……the courts will rule what they rule, the ex will pay whatever he pays, or as a deadbeat, nothing at all. If i were Marion, id take every penny. Try to appreciate every penny, and dont spend so much time worrying about the pennies that could have been…..
J
November 29, 2007 at 1:01 AM #105120GuestMega,
True, true. We all need money no doubt about it. Minimum wage is a tough spot to be in, kids or no kids. I am all for the heroine of our string, Marion, receiving her alloted child care from the courts. Dad ran off, he should take responsibility, she could receive support for her valiant efforts and good will towards her sons.
My point was made more for attitudes of why we fight and if those fights are indeed for the reasons we fool ourselves into believing……the courts will rule what they rule, the ex will pay whatever he pays, or as a deadbeat, nothing at all. If i were Marion, id take every penny. Try to appreciate every penny, and dont spend so much time worrying about the pennies that could have been…..
J
November 29, 2007 at 1:01 AM #105143GuestMega,
True, true. We all need money no doubt about it. Minimum wage is a tough spot to be in, kids or no kids. I am all for the heroine of our string, Marion, receiving her alloted child care from the courts. Dad ran off, he should take responsibility, she could receive support for her valiant efforts and good will towards her sons.
My point was made more for attitudes of why we fight and if those fights are indeed for the reasons we fool ourselves into believing……the courts will rule what they rule, the ex will pay whatever he pays, or as a deadbeat, nothing at all. If i were Marion, id take every penny. Try to appreciate every penny, and dont spend so much time worrying about the pennies that could have been…..
J
November 29, 2007 at 1:04 AM #105001The OC Scam
ParticipantDamm… she is asking FLU when him and the spouse thing have sex? WOW screw the housing market sounds like a price is falling orgy is about to happen soon!!! Well Marion just so you know the miss and I have a good session every morning before I take the kids to school and sometimes a little quicky on my detour back to the office!! We are ten years and climbing like the DOW … WE are so sick we still hold hands when walking down the street. Just think of all the I saved 60% on my house sex that gonna be happening in 2012??
Professor please forgive us the numbers are driving us crazy sometimes we need a little break!
November 29, 2007 at 1:04 AM #105088ParticipantDamm… she is asking FLU when him and the spouse thing have sex? WOW screw the housing market sounds like a price is falling orgy is about to happen soon!!! Well Marion just so you know the miss and I have a good session every morning before I take the kids to school and sometimes a little quicky on my detour back to the office!! We are ten years and climbing like the DOW … WE are so sick we still hold hands when walking down the street. Just think of all the I saved 60% on my house sex that gonna be happening in 2012??
Professor please forgive us the numbers are driving us crazy sometimes we need a little break!
November 29, 2007 at 1:04 AM #105095ParticipantDamm… she is asking FLU when him and the spouse thing have sex? WOW screw the housing market sounds like a price is falling orgy is about to happen soon!!! Well Marion just so you know the miss and I have a good session every morning before I take the kids to school and sometimes a little quicky on my detour back to the office!! We are ten years and climbing like the DOW … WE are so sick we still hold hands when walking down the street. Just think of all the I saved 60% on my house sex that gonna be happening in 2012??
Professor please forgive us the numbers are driving us crazy sometimes we need a little break!
November 29, 2007 at 1:04 AM #105126ParticipantDamm… she is asking FLU when him and the spouse thing have sex? WOW screw the housing market sounds like a price is falling orgy is about to happen soon!!! Well Marion just so you know the miss and I have a good session every morning before I take the kids to school and sometimes a little quicky on my detour back to the office!! We are ten years and climbing like the DOW … WE are so sick we still hold hands when walking down the street. Just think of all the I saved 60% on my house sex that gonna be happening in 2012??
Professor please forgive us the numbers are driving us crazy sometimes we need a little break!
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