How do I go about investigating this?

[DataAgent]

[quote=massivedamagetome]I fucked myself by being a moron and then Bartko fucked me- I ‘INVESTED” way- way too much- he did not pay- I know I am an asshole. Now what?
Not sure what to do[/quote]

How much did you invest?

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=massivedamagetome]I fucked myself by being a moron and then Bartko fucked me- I ‘INVESTED” way- way too much- he did not pay- I know I am an asshole. Now what?
Not sure what to do[/quote]

Massive: I’d recommend doing some prelim research about doing business under CFR (Code of Federal Regulations) and FAR (Federal Acquisition Regs).

If Bartko was representing that he was working with government contractors, you might be able to bootstrap up into a fraud claim under CFR or FAR.

A quick check of the Thunderblaze website certainly gives the impression that they’re a government contractor/supplier; it even mentions that they’re veteran owned.

Bartko may claim that there’s an arms-length relationship between he and Thunderblaze, but his paperwork claims he is raising funds on behalf of Thunderblaze, so you may be able to make a claim of agency (he was an agent working on their behalf).

I don’t know if there is anything there, but, depending on how much money you lost with this guy, it might be worth your time.

On another note, have you discussed any of this with an attorney or law enforcement?

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=massivedamagetome]I fucked myself by being a moron and then Bartko fucked me- I ‘INVESTED” way- way too much- he did not pay- I know I am an asshole. Now what?
Not sure what to do[/quote]

Massive: I’d recommend doing some prelim research about doing business under CFR (Code of Federal Regulations) and FAR (Federal Acquisition Regs).

If Bartko was representing that he was working with government contractors, you might be able to bootstrap up into a fraud claim under CFR or FAR.

A quick check of the Thunderblaze website certainly gives the impression that they’re a government contractor/supplier; it even mentions that they’re veteran owned.

Bartko may claim that there’s an arms-length relationship between he and Thunderblaze, but his paperwork claims he is raising funds on behalf of Thunderblaze, so you may be able to make a claim of agency (he was an agent working on their behalf).

I don’t know if there is anything there, but, depending on how much money you lost with this guy, it might be worth your time.

On another note, have you discussed any of this with an attorney or law enforcement?

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=massivedamagetome]I fucked myself by being a moron and then Bartko fucked me- I ‘INVESTED” way- way too much- he did not pay- I know I am an asshole. Now what?
Not sure what to do[/quote]

Massive: I’d recommend doing some prelim research about doing business under CFR (Code of Federal Regulations) and FAR (Federal Acquisition Regs).

If Bartko was representing that he was working with government contractors, you might be able to bootstrap up into a fraud claim under CFR or FAR.

A quick check of the Thunderblaze website certainly gives the impression that they’re a government contractor/supplier; it even mentions that they’re veteran owned.

Bartko may claim that there’s an arms-length relationship between he and Thunderblaze, but his paperwork claims he is raising funds on behalf of Thunderblaze, so you may be able to make a claim of agency (he was an agent working on their behalf).

I don’t know if there is anything there, but, depending on how much money you lost with this guy, it might be worth your time.

On another note, have you discussed any of this with an attorney or law enforcement?

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=massivedamagetome]I fucked myself by being a moron and then Bartko fucked me- I ‘INVESTED” way- way too much- he did not pay- I know I am an asshole. Now what?
Not sure what to do[/quote]

Massive: I’d recommend doing some prelim research about doing business under CFR (Code of Federal Regulations) and FAR (Federal Acquisition Regs).

If Bartko was representing that he was working with government contractors, you might be able to bootstrap up into a fraud claim under CFR or FAR.

A quick check of the Thunderblaze website certainly gives the impression that they’re a government contractor/supplier; it even mentions that they’re veteran owned.

Bartko may claim that there’s an arms-length relationship between he and Thunderblaze, but his paperwork claims he is raising funds on behalf of Thunderblaze, so you may be able to make a claim of agency (he was an agent working on their behalf).

I don’t know if there is anything there, but, depending on how much money you lost with this guy, it might be worth your time.

On another note, have you discussed any of this with an attorney or law enforcement?

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=massivedamagetome]I fucked myself by being a moron and then Bartko fucked me- I ‘INVESTED” way- way too much- he did not pay- I know I am an asshole. Now what?
Not sure what to do[/quote]

Massive: I’d recommend doing some prelim research about doing business under CFR (Code of Federal Regulations) and FAR (Federal Acquisition Regs).

If Bartko was representing that he was working with government contractors, you might be able to bootstrap up into a fraud claim under CFR or FAR.

A quick check of the Thunderblaze website certainly gives the impression that they’re a government contractor/supplier; it even mentions that they’re veteran owned.

Bartko may claim that there’s an arms-length relationship between he and Thunderblaze, but his paperwork claims he is raising funds on behalf of Thunderblaze, so you may be able to make a claim of agency (he was an agent working on their behalf).

I don’t know if there is anything there, but, depending on how much money you lost with this guy, it might be worth your time.

On another note, have you discussed any of this with an attorney or law enforcement?

[ucodegen]

I fucked myself by being a moron and then Bartko fucked me- I ‘INVESTED” way- way too much- he did not pay- I know I am an asshole. Now what?
Not sure what to do

Troll? The account of massivedamagetome has only been active for a short time (1 day, 9 hours).. probably created solely for this post. Combined with the name created, I have my suspicions. If for real, you need to kiss the money good-bye. The best you can hope for is helping put the guy in jail… for as long as possible.

[ucodegen]

I fucked myself by being a moron and then Bartko fucked me- I ‘INVESTED” way- way too much- he did not pay- I know I am an asshole. Now what?
Not sure what to do

Troll? The account of massivedamagetome has only been active for a short time (1 day, 9 hours).. probably created solely for this post. Combined with the name created, I have my suspicions. If for real, you need to kiss the money good-bye. The best you can hope for is helping put the guy in jail… for as long as possible.

[ucodegen]

I fucked myself by being a moron and then Bartko fucked me- I ‘INVESTED” way- way too much- he did not pay- I know I am an asshole. Now what?
Not sure what to do

Troll? The account of massivedamagetome has only been active for a short time (1 day, 9 hours).. probably created solely for this post. Combined with the name created, I have my suspicions. If for real, you need to kiss the money good-bye. The best you can hope for is helping put the guy in jail… for as long as possible.

[ucodegen]

I fucked myself by being a moron and then Bartko fucked me- I ‘INVESTED” way- way too much- he did not pay- I know I am an asshole. Now what?
Not sure what to do

Troll? The account of massivedamagetome has only been active for a short time (1 day, 9 hours).. probably created solely for this post. Combined with the name created, I have my suspicions. If for real, you need to kiss the money good-bye. The best you can hope for is helping put the guy in jail… for as long as possible.

[ucodegen]

I fucked myself by being a moron and then Bartko fucked me- I ‘INVESTED” way- way too much- he did not pay- I know I am an asshole. Now what?
Not sure what to do

Troll? The account of massivedamagetome has only been active for a short time (1 day, 9 hours).. probably created solely for this post. Combined with the name created, I have my suspicions. If for real, you need to kiss the money good-bye. The best you can hope for is helping put the guy in jail… for as long as possible.

[Anonymous]

First of Thank you for your reply, secondly, upfront I admit I never should have put money here, Let’s just say I put over $100,000 into this deal, money which I truly did not have to lose, it is effecting me big time. I have a friend who told me she had put money with Bartko years ago and he has proven to be a good investment over her “many years” and she told me she has recouped her initial investment may times over with him. I guess I have horrible timing because I did not even come close to getting my initial dollars back.

I appreciate what you’re saying about FAR, CFR- truthfully I never heard of these agencies, and I will look into these but I will probably need some help taking it any further than that- again, I admit I simply put money with Bartko based on a recommendation.

I am not sure what Thunderblaze is or how that might help me. I am going to be very honest with this group even if it makes me look more stupid than I already feel because I do not know who turn to. I do not want to even tell my wife I invested with this guy I am so embarrassed by stupidity.

I have not spoken to any lawyer or anyone about this because I guess I have my head in the sand and hope he will continue to pay, he did pay for a short time and I guess my fear is if I rock the boat any chance of him paying me will go away. Until you have this crazy sick to your stomach feeling 24/7 – knowing that you truly did do “massive damage” it’s hard to say what you would do.

The bottom line is I am looking for help, this is the first place I found any info, I am not claiming to be something I am not just a guy who made one very stupid mistake, who did not have the right to put his future in such jeopardy but I did.

I have a promissory note, signed by him. I can not kiss the money goodbye, Bartko does claim even recently he is rebuilding Starfire and plans to pay the investors back, yea, I know it’s probably a pipe dream

[Anonymous]

First of Thank you for your reply, secondly, upfront I admit I never should have put money here, Let’s just say I put over $100,000 into this deal, money which I truly did not have to lose, it is effecting me big time. I have a friend who told me she had put money with Bartko years ago and he has proven to be a good investment over her “many years” and she told me she has recouped her initial investment may times over with him. I guess I have horrible timing because I did not even come close to getting my initial dollars back.

I appreciate what you’re saying about FAR, CFR- truthfully I never heard of these agencies, and I will look into these but I will probably need some help taking it any further than that- again, I admit I simply put money with Bartko based on a recommendation.

I am not sure what Thunderblaze is or how that might help me. I am going to be very honest with this group even if it makes me look more stupid than I already feel because I do not know who turn to. I do not want to even tell my wife I invested with this guy I am so embarrassed by stupidity.

I have not spoken to any lawyer or anyone about this because I guess I have my head in the sand and hope he will continue to pay, he did pay for a short time and I guess my fear is if I rock the boat any chance of him paying me will go away. Until you have this crazy sick to your stomach feeling 24/7 – knowing that you truly did do “massive damage” it’s hard to say what you would do.

The bottom line is I am looking for help, this is the first place I found any info, I am not claiming to be something I am not just a guy who made one very stupid mistake, who did not have the right to put his future in such jeopardy but I did.

I have a promissory note, signed by him. I can not kiss the money goodbye, Bartko does claim even recently he is rebuilding Starfire and plans to pay the investors back, yea, I know it’s probably a pipe dream

[Anonymous]

First of Thank you for your reply, secondly, upfront I admit I never should have put money here, Let’s just say I put over $100,000 into this deal, money which I truly did not have to lose, it is effecting me big time. I have a friend who told me she had put money with Bartko years ago and he has proven to be a good investment over her “many years” and she told me she has recouped her initial investment may times over with him. I guess I have horrible timing because I did not even come close to getting my initial dollars back.

I appreciate what you’re saying about FAR, CFR- truthfully I never heard of these agencies, and I will look into these but I will probably need some help taking it any further than that- again, I admit I simply put money with Bartko based on a recommendation.

I am not sure what Thunderblaze is or how that might help me. I am going to be very honest with this group even if it makes me look more stupid than I already feel because I do not know who turn to. I do not want to even tell my wife I invested with this guy I am so embarrassed by stupidity.

I have not spoken to any lawyer or anyone about this because I guess I have my head in the sand and hope he will continue to pay, he did pay for a short time and I guess my fear is if I rock the boat any chance of him paying me will go away. Until you have this crazy sick to your stomach feeling 24/7 – knowing that you truly did do “massive damage” it’s hard to say what you would do.

The bottom line is I am looking for help, this is the first place I found any info, I am not claiming to be something I am not just a guy who made one very stupid mistake, who did not have the right to put his future in such jeopardy but I did.

I have a promissory note, signed by him. I can not kiss the money goodbye, Bartko does claim even recently he is rebuilding Starfire and plans to pay the investors back, yea, I know it’s probably a pipe dream

[Anonymous]

First of Thank you for your reply, secondly, upfront I admit I never should have put money here, Let’s just say I put over $100,000 into this deal, money which I truly did not have to lose, it is effecting me big time. I have a friend who told me she had put money with Bartko years ago and he has proven to be a good investment over her “many years” and she told me she has recouped her initial investment may times over with him. I guess I have horrible timing because I did not even come close to getting my initial dollars back.

I appreciate what you’re saying about FAR, CFR- truthfully I never heard of these agencies, and I will look into these but I will probably need some help taking it any further than that- again, I admit I simply put money with Bartko based on a recommendation.

I am not sure what Thunderblaze is or how that might help me. I am going to be very honest with this group even if it makes me look more stupid than I already feel because I do not know who turn to. I do not want to even tell my wife I invested with this guy I am so embarrassed by stupidity.

I have not spoken to any lawyer or anyone about this because I guess I have my head in the sand and hope he will continue to pay, he did pay for a short time and I guess my fear is if I rock the boat any chance of him paying me will go away. Until you have this crazy sick to your stomach feeling 24/7 – knowing that you truly did do “massive damage” it’s hard to say what you would do.

The bottom line is I am looking for help, this is the first place I found any info, I am not claiming to be something I am not just a guy who made one very stupid mistake, who did not have the right to put his future in such jeopardy but I did.

I have a promissory note, signed by him. I can not kiss the money goodbye, Bartko does claim even recently he is rebuilding Starfire and plans to pay the investors back, yea, I know it’s probably a pipe dream

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