How do I go about investigating this?

[Coronita]

[quote=pissed]You are so full of crap – this is nothing but a scam and you know it. Steve Bartko has nothing left of any of his investors money – including his own money. Is currently in default on two properties and has been promising his investors distributions from this investment since March – and they just found out that there is no money out there to be had – from Steve Bartko or Starfire technologies. His quote from a recent email is that he has made some stupid decisions and some stupid mistakes – but still lying that payments would be made on July 30th – hopefully he will end up in jail for his stupid decisions. What happened to the check he was supposed to have received from a contract with Boeing – I seriously doubt there was ever any type of contract with Boeing. I would tend to believe that if Boeing were in contract with Starfire and Starfire’s part of the contract were fulfulled – they would fulfull their part with the payment of such contract. This is all bullshit – Steve Bartko is a scam artist and has just taken everyone for a ride…….I hope its not to late for anyone else -if you haven’t invested with them – please don’t send them ANY money – don’t let these idiots fool you. Hopefully, they will be in jail shortly.[/quote]

Looks like a first time poster…..And from the tone of it, seems like one of the “investors” that fell for this scam….

Well, like smarty piggs said, this had SCAM written all over it..

[(former)FormerSanDiegan]

Usually best investments and their justifications can be explained in 2 or 3 sentences.

[(former)FormerSanDiegan]

Usually best investments and their justifications can be explained in 2 or 3 sentences.

[(former)FormerSanDiegan]

Usually best investments and their justifications can be explained in 2 or 3 sentences.

[(former)FormerSanDiegan]

Usually best investments and their justifications can be explained in 2 or 3 sentences.

[(former)FormerSanDiegan]

Usually best investments and their justifications can be explained in 2 or 3 sentences.

[Anonymous]

Verified it’s a SCAM.

[Anonymous]

Verified it’s a SCAM.

[Anonymous]

Verified it’s a SCAM.

[Anonymous]

Verified it’s a SCAM.

[Anonymous]

Verified it’s a SCAM.

[Anonymous]

I can assure you it is a scam.

This is from another one of his “investors”
The promisory notes are absolutely useless.

He doesn’t even bother sending them out in a timely fashion anymore. Don’t bother trying to get your capital back… he will tell you the check is in the mail… but strangely enough it never materializes.

The Thunderblaze website is already gone.
The Starfireus.com site is just a shell to show prospective investors that there seems to be a real business. Take a closer look… the parts catalog has a really strange flaw… No matter what parts number you enter… it will never come up with anything… when you look behind it… you find that it is just a blank page. There is no catalog attached.

All addresses seem to have the same phone number.

Google the Vista Ca. address and/or use Zillow to look at that house… nice mansion, big swimming pool but there is not a single shop building in sight. The other one… is a house in the middle of a regular single family zoned subdivision… no way there is any “machining” going on here in the backyard. The Carlsbad addresses aren’t any better. Just getting closer to the mexican boarder?

The site for starfire is

Starfireus.com – go there and try to get into the parts catalogue…

reverse searches for the phone number… can land you at a golf course… his favorite site for doing “business” with his cell phone.

P.S. The actual Starfire Co. that has ties to Boeing is out of Malta NY…. They are into nanotechnology and have no idea that their name is being used in a Ponzi Scheme in California.

That is what it really is… and one that doesn’t bother to keep the “image” going anymore.

This has been going on for years… he used to not bother with you unless you brought 50K to the table minimum…

About the only thing I can suggest… all the Investors that come across this post… Start posting here. Don’t bother feeling stupid…
It is even dumber not to get together and get to know each other…

We have to make a complaint… all of us together, at once… to the District Attorneys Office.
Each one of you… already has enough info to nail this Ponzi scheme.

[Anonymous]

I can assure you it is a scam.

This is from another one of his “investors”
The promisory notes are absolutely useless.

He doesn’t even bother sending them out in a timely fashion anymore. Don’t bother trying to get your capital back… he will tell you the check is in the mail… but strangely enough it never materializes.

The Thunderblaze website is already gone.
The Starfireus.com site is just a shell to show prospective investors that there seems to be a real business. Take a closer look… the parts catalog has a really strange flaw… No matter what parts number you enter… it will never come up with anything… when you look behind it… you find that it is just a blank page. There is no catalog attached.

All addresses seem to have the same phone number.

Google the Vista Ca. address and/or use Zillow to look at that house… nice mansion, big swimming pool but there is not a single shop building in sight. The other one… is a house in the middle of a regular single family zoned subdivision… no way there is any “machining” going on here in the backyard. The Carlsbad addresses aren’t any better. Just getting closer to the mexican boarder?

The site for starfire is

Starfireus.com – go there and try to get into the parts catalogue…

reverse searches for the phone number… can land you at a golf course… his favorite site for doing “business” with his cell phone.

P.S. The actual Starfire Co. that has ties to Boeing is out of Malta NY…. They are into nanotechnology and have no idea that their name is being used in a Ponzi Scheme in California.

That is what it really is… and one that doesn’t bother to keep the “image” going anymore.

This has been going on for years… he used to not bother with you unless you brought 50K to the table minimum…

About the only thing I can suggest… all the Investors that come across this post… Start posting here. Don’t bother feeling stupid…
It is even dumber not to get together and get to know each other…

We have to make a complaint… all of us together, at once… to the District Attorneys Office.
Each one of you… already has enough info to nail this Ponzi scheme.

[Anonymous]

I can assure you it is a scam.

This is from another one of his “investors”
The promisory notes are absolutely useless.

He doesn’t even bother sending them out in a timely fashion anymore. Don’t bother trying to get your capital back… he will tell you the check is in the mail… but strangely enough it never materializes.

The Thunderblaze website is already gone.
The Starfireus.com site is just a shell to show prospective investors that there seems to be a real business. Take a closer look… the parts catalog has a really strange flaw… No matter what parts number you enter… it will never come up with anything… when you look behind it… you find that it is just a blank page. There is no catalog attached.

All addresses seem to have the same phone number.

Google the Vista Ca. address and/or use Zillow to look at that house… nice mansion, big swimming pool but there is not a single shop building in sight. The other one… is a house in the middle of a regular single family zoned subdivision… no way there is any “machining” going on here in the backyard. The Carlsbad addresses aren’t any better. Just getting closer to the mexican boarder?

The site for starfire is

Starfireus.com – go there and try to get into the parts catalogue…

reverse searches for the phone number… can land you at a golf course… his favorite site for doing “business” with his cell phone.

P.S. The actual Starfire Co. that has ties to Boeing is out of Malta NY…. They are into nanotechnology and have no idea that their name is being used in a Ponzi Scheme in California.

That is what it really is… and one that doesn’t bother to keep the “image” going anymore.

This has been going on for years… he used to not bother with you unless you brought 50K to the table minimum…

About the only thing I can suggest… all the Investors that come across this post… Start posting here. Don’t bother feeling stupid…
It is even dumber not to get together and get to know each other…

We have to make a complaint… all of us together, at once… to the District Attorneys Office.
Each one of you… already has enough info to nail this Ponzi scheme.

[Anonymous]

I can assure you it is a scam.

This is from another one of his “investors”
The promisory notes are absolutely useless.

He doesn’t even bother sending them out in a timely fashion anymore. Don’t bother trying to get your capital back… he will tell you the check is in the mail… but strangely enough it never materializes.

The Thunderblaze website is already gone.
The Starfireus.com site is just a shell to show prospective investors that there seems to be a real business. Take a closer look… the parts catalog has a really strange flaw… No matter what parts number you enter… it will never come up with anything… when you look behind it… you find that it is just a blank page. There is no catalog attached.

All addresses seem to have the same phone number.

Google the Vista Ca. address and/or use Zillow to look at that house… nice mansion, big swimming pool but there is not a single shop building in sight. The other one… is a house in the middle of a regular single family zoned subdivision… no way there is any “machining” going on here in the backyard. The Carlsbad addresses aren’t any better. Just getting closer to the mexican boarder?

The site for starfire is

Starfireus.com – go there and try to get into the parts catalogue…

reverse searches for the phone number… can land you at a golf course… his favorite site for doing “business” with his cell phone.

P.S. The actual Starfire Co. that has ties to Boeing is out of Malta NY…. They are into nanotechnology and have no idea that their name is being used in a Ponzi Scheme in California.

That is what it really is… and one that doesn’t bother to keep the “image” going anymore.

This has been going on for years… he used to not bother with you unless you brought 50K to the table minimum…

About the only thing I can suggest… all the Investors that come across this post… Start posting here. Don’t bother feeling stupid…
It is even dumber not to get together and get to know each other…

We have to make a complaint… all of us together, at once… to the District Attorneys Office.
Each one of you… already has enough info to nail this Ponzi scheme.

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