Hooray for the tax cut…

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A tiny an example of an out-of-control hick town government: The City Manager of Temecula Shawn Nelson makes almost as much as the President of the United States of America.

Not to mention his pension and lifetime medical and other assorted benefits.

On top of that, we also have a high paid Mayor! WTF is the Mayor doing besides riding around in a parade car waving to the citizen suckers?

Sickening.

[Coronita]

[quote=deadzone]I’m tired of all the right wing rhetoric about “risk taking” and how taxes are unfair because people should be rewarded for “Taking risks”. All this talk about risk taking sounds a lot to me like gambling. Is gambling something we should encourage? And as with any form of gambling, there are winners and losers. What do the right-wing no-tax people suppose should happen to the losers? Is all the money they made “risk taking” so sacred that some of it can’t be taxed in part to help provide a social safety net for those less fortunate? And one more thing the right-wingers don’t comprehend, being more fortunate doesn’t necessarily mean you worked any harder.[/quote]

There absolutely nothing wrong with risk taking, assuming people who take the risk are accountable for when the crapper hits the fan. The problem with today is that people who take risks don’t have to deal with the consequences if the crapper hits the fan. This applies to bankers AS WELL AS J6P who did a ALT-A 100% financed loan who now think they are entitled to be able to keep the home.

I think if we seriously think everyone should be a paid the same, irrespective of what they do, well there’s another form what that is.

[Coronita]

[quote=deadzone]I’m tired of all the right wing rhetoric about “risk taking” and how taxes are unfair because people should be rewarded for “Taking risks”. All this talk about risk taking sounds a lot to me like gambling. Is gambling something we should encourage? And as with any form of gambling, there are winners and losers. What do the right-wing no-tax people suppose should happen to the losers? Is all the money they made “risk taking” so sacred that some of it can’t be taxed in part to help provide a social safety net for those less fortunate? And one more thing the right-wingers don’t comprehend, being more fortunate doesn’t necessarily mean you worked any harder.[/quote]

There absolutely nothing wrong with risk taking, assuming people who take the risk are accountable for when the crapper hits the fan. The problem with today is that people who take risks don’t have to deal with the consequences if the crapper hits the fan. This applies to bankers AS WELL AS J6P who did a ALT-A 100% financed loan who now think they are entitled to be able to keep the home.

I think if we seriously think everyone should be a paid the same, irrespective of what they do, well there’s another form what that is.

[Coronita]

[quote=deadzone]I’m tired of all the right wing rhetoric about “risk taking” and how taxes are unfair because people should be rewarded for “Taking risks”. All this talk about risk taking sounds a lot to me like gambling. Is gambling something we should encourage? And as with any form of gambling, there are winners and losers. What do the right-wing no-tax people suppose should happen to the losers? Is all the money they made “risk taking” so sacred that some of it can’t be taxed in part to help provide a social safety net for those less fortunate? And one more thing the right-wingers don’t comprehend, being more fortunate doesn’t necessarily mean you worked any harder.[/quote]

There absolutely nothing wrong with risk taking, assuming people who take the risk are accountable for when the crapper hits the fan. The problem with today is that people who take risks don’t have to deal with the consequences if the crapper hits the fan. This applies to bankers AS WELL AS J6P who did a ALT-A 100% financed loan who now think they are entitled to be able to keep the home.

I think if we seriously think everyone should be a paid the same, irrespective of what they do, well there’s another form what that is.

[Coronita]

[quote=deadzone]I’m tired of all the right wing rhetoric about “risk taking” and how taxes are unfair because people should be rewarded for “Taking risks”. All this talk about risk taking sounds a lot to me like gambling. Is gambling something we should encourage? And as with any form of gambling, there are winners and losers. What do the right-wing no-tax people suppose should happen to the losers? Is all the money they made “risk taking” so sacred that some of it can’t be taxed in part to help provide a social safety net for those less fortunate? And one more thing the right-wingers don’t comprehend, being more fortunate doesn’t necessarily mean you worked any harder.[/quote]

There absolutely nothing wrong with risk taking, assuming people who take the risk are accountable for when the crapper hits the fan. The problem with today is that people who take risks don’t have to deal with the consequences if the crapper hits the fan. This applies to bankers AS WELL AS J6P who did a ALT-A 100% financed loan who now think they are entitled to be able to keep the home.

I think if we seriously think everyone should be a paid the same, irrespective of what they do, well there’s another form what that is.

[Coronita]

[quote=deadzone]I’m tired of all the right wing rhetoric about “risk taking” and how taxes are unfair because people should be rewarded for “Taking risks”. All this talk about risk taking sounds a lot to me like gambling. Is gambling something we should encourage? And as with any form of gambling, there are winners and losers. What do the right-wing no-tax people suppose should happen to the losers? Is all the money they made “risk taking” so sacred that some of it can’t be taxed in part to help provide a social safety net for those less fortunate? And one more thing the right-wingers don’t comprehend, being more fortunate doesn’t necessarily mean you worked any harder.[/quote]

There absolutely nothing wrong with risk taking, assuming people who take the risk are accountable for when the crapper hits the fan. The problem with today is that people who take risks don’t have to deal with the consequences if the crapper hits the fan. This applies to bankers AS WELL AS J6P who did a ALT-A 100% financed loan who now think they are entitled to be able to keep the home.

I think if we seriously think everyone should be a paid the same, irrespective of what they do, well there’s another form what that is.

[Anonymous]

[quote=flu][quote=deadzone]I’m tired of all the right wing rhetoric about “risk taking” and how taxes are unfair because people should be rewarded for “Taking risks”. All this talk about risk taking sounds a lot to me like gambling. Is gambling something we should encourage? And as with any form of gambling, there are winners and losers. What do the right-wing no-tax people suppose should happen to the losers? Is all the money they made “risk taking” so sacred that some of it can’t be taxed in part to help provide a social safety net for those less fortunate? And one more thing the right-wingers don’t comprehend, being more fortunate doesn’t necessarily mean you worked any harder.[/quote]

There absolutely nothing wrong with risk taking, assuming people who take the risk are accountable for when the crapper hits the fan. The problem with today is that people who take risks don’t have to deal with the consequences if the crapper hits the fan. This applies to bankers AS WELL AS J6P who did a ALT-A 100% financed loan who now think they are entitled to be able to keep the home.

I think if we seriously think everyone should be a paid the same, irrespective of what they do, well there’s another form what that is.[/quote]

Nobody is suggesting every body should make the same. The problem is the culture of encouraging risk taking, which is gambling. Why is it good that our culture encourages gambling?

[Anonymous]

[quote=flu][quote=deadzone]I’m tired of all the right wing rhetoric about “risk taking” and how taxes are unfair because people should be rewarded for “Taking risks”. All this talk about risk taking sounds a lot to me like gambling. Is gambling something we should encourage? And as with any form of gambling, there are winners and losers. What do the right-wing no-tax people suppose should happen to the losers? Is all the money they made “risk taking” so sacred that some of it can’t be taxed in part to help provide a social safety net for those less fortunate? And one more thing the right-wingers don’t comprehend, being more fortunate doesn’t necessarily mean you worked any harder.[/quote]

There absolutely nothing wrong with risk taking, assuming people who take the risk are accountable for when the crapper hits the fan. The problem with today is that people who take risks don’t have to deal with the consequences if the crapper hits the fan. This applies to bankers AS WELL AS J6P who did a ALT-A 100% financed loan who now think they are entitled to be able to keep the home.

I think if we seriously think everyone should be a paid the same, irrespective of what they do, well there’s another form what that is.[/quote]

Nobody is suggesting every body should make the same. The problem is the culture of encouraging risk taking, which is gambling. Why is it good that our culture encourages gambling?

[Anonymous]

[quote=flu][quote=deadzone]I’m tired of all the right wing rhetoric about “risk taking” and how taxes are unfair because people should be rewarded for “Taking risks”. All this talk about risk taking sounds a lot to me like gambling. Is gambling something we should encourage? And as with any form of gambling, there are winners and losers. What do the right-wing no-tax people suppose should happen to the losers? Is all the money they made “risk taking” so sacred that some of it can’t be taxed in part to help provide a social safety net for those less fortunate? And one more thing the right-wingers don’t comprehend, being more fortunate doesn’t necessarily mean you worked any harder.[/quote]

There absolutely nothing wrong with risk taking, assuming people who take the risk are accountable for when the crapper hits the fan. The problem with today is that people who take risks don’t have to deal with the consequences if the crapper hits the fan. This applies to bankers AS WELL AS J6P who did a ALT-A 100% financed loan who now think they are entitled to be able to keep the home.

I think if we seriously think everyone should be a paid the same, irrespective of what they do, well there’s another form what that is.[/quote]

Nobody is suggesting every body should make the same. The problem is the culture of encouraging risk taking, which is gambling. Why is it good that our culture encourages gambling?

[Anonymous]

[quote=flu][quote=deadzone]I’m tired of all the right wing rhetoric about “risk taking” and how taxes are unfair because people should be rewarded for “Taking risks”. All this talk about risk taking sounds a lot to me like gambling. Is gambling something we should encourage? And as with any form of gambling, there are winners and losers. What do the right-wing no-tax people suppose should happen to the losers? Is all the money they made “risk taking” so sacred that some of it can’t be taxed in part to help provide a social safety net for those less fortunate? And one more thing the right-wingers don’t comprehend, being more fortunate doesn’t necessarily mean you worked any harder.[/quote]

There absolutely nothing wrong with risk taking, assuming people who take the risk are accountable for when the crapper hits the fan. The problem with today is that people who take risks don’t have to deal with the consequences if the crapper hits the fan. This applies to bankers AS WELL AS J6P who did a ALT-A 100% financed loan who now think they are entitled to be able to keep the home.

I think if we seriously think everyone should be a paid the same, irrespective of what they do, well there’s another form what that is.[/quote]

Nobody is suggesting every body should make the same. The problem is the culture of encouraging risk taking, which is gambling. Why is it good that our culture encourages gambling?

[Anonymous]

[quote=flu][quote=deadzone]I’m tired of all the right wing rhetoric about “risk taking” and how taxes are unfair because people should be rewarded for “Taking risks”. All this talk about risk taking sounds a lot to me like gambling. Is gambling something we should encourage? And as with any form of gambling, there are winners and losers. What do the right-wing no-tax people suppose should happen to the losers? Is all the money they made “risk taking” so sacred that some of it can’t be taxed in part to help provide a social safety net for those less fortunate? And one more thing the right-wingers don’t comprehend, being more fortunate doesn’t necessarily mean you worked any harder.[/quote]

There absolutely nothing wrong with risk taking, assuming people who take the risk are accountable for when the crapper hits the fan. The problem with today is that people who take risks don’t have to deal with the consequences if the crapper hits the fan. This applies to bankers AS WELL AS J6P who did a ALT-A 100% financed loan who now think they are entitled to be able to keep the home.

I think if we seriously think everyone should be a paid the same, irrespective of what they do, well there’s another form what that is.[/quote]

Nobody is suggesting every body should make the same. The problem is the culture of encouraging risk taking, which is gambling. Why is it good that our culture encourages gambling?

[Coronita]

[quote=deadzone][quote=flu][quote=deadzone]I’m tired of all the right wing rhetoric about “risk taking” and how taxes are unfair because people should be rewarded for “Taking risks”. All this talk about risk taking sounds a lot to me like gambling. Is gambling something we should encourage? And as with any form of gambling, there are winners and losers. What do the right-wing no-tax people suppose should happen to the losers? Is all the money they made “risk taking” so sacred that some of it can’t be taxed in part to help provide a social safety net for those less fortunate? And one more thing the right-wingers don’t comprehend, being more fortunate doesn’t necessarily mean you worked any harder.[/quote]

Folks who take risk by starting businesses is hardly what I would consider gambling. I don’t think you understand the concept of no risk no reward. Until recent times, it’s always been the case, since the it was far easier to to do what most everyone else is doing and just take a “safer” route….Well, that’s until government and unions got totally out of hand and started to get ridiculous compensation packages…

Deadzone, furthermore, why do you insist on this being a right-winger thing? If there’s anything to have been proven the past two years is that “left-leaning” government spends just as out of control and fatten their own wallets and/or grow the big fat government tape..How did any of this really benefit your sacred cow of the “less fortunate”? If at all any “leftist” government proved is they don’t give a shit about the “less fortunate” people anymore than the “rightist” government, except to fatten pensions and their own retirement benefits. But anyway, feel free to rail all you want on about our government, while they keep regular people squabling about political ideology that has long escaped both parties. Ha ha left-ist government helping the less fortunate…Ha ha ha.. That’s a good one….Just get use to the next 2 years…Otherwise it’s going to be a long 2 years, possibly 4 the way some things are going…

If everyone wants this country to get out of the mess it’s in, everyone needs to pay higher taxes…And if no one wants to pay, well fine by me too…

[Coronita]

[quote=deadzone][quote=flu][quote=deadzone]I’m tired of all the right wing rhetoric about “risk taking” and how taxes are unfair because people should be rewarded for “Taking risks”. All this talk about risk taking sounds a lot to me like gambling. Is gambling something we should encourage? And as with any form of gambling, there are winners and losers. What do the right-wing no-tax people suppose should happen to the losers? Is all the money they made “risk taking” so sacred that some of it can’t be taxed in part to help provide a social safety net for those less fortunate? And one more thing the right-wingers don’t comprehend, being more fortunate doesn’t necessarily mean you worked any harder.[/quote]

Folks who take risk by starting businesses is hardly what I would consider gambling. I don’t think you understand the concept of no risk no reward. Until recent times, it’s always been the case, since the it was far easier to to do what most everyone else is doing and just take a “safer” route….Well, that’s until government and unions got totally out of hand and started to get ridiculous compensation packages…

Deadzone, furthermore, why do you insist on this being a right-winger thing? If there’s anything to have been proven the past two years is that “left-leaning” government spends just as out of control and fatten their own wallets and/or grow the big fat government tape..How did any of this really benefit your sacred cow of the “less fortunate”? If at all any “leftist” government proved is they don’t give a shit about the “less fortunate” people anymore than the “rightist” government, except to fatten pensions and their own retirement benefits. But anyway, feel free to rail all you want on about our government, while they keep regular people squabling about political ideology that has long escaped both parties. Ha ha left-ist government helping the less fortunate…Ha ha ha.. That’s a good one….Just get use to the next 2 years…Otherwise it’s going to be a long 2 years, possibly 4 the way some things are going…

If everyone wants this country to get out of the mess it’s in, everyone needs to pay higher taxes…And if no one wants to pay, well fine by me too…

[Coronita]

[quote=deadzone][quote=flu][quote=deadzone]I’m tired of all the right wing rhetoric about “risk taking” and how taxes are unfair because people should be rewarded for “Taking risks”. All this talk about risk taking sounds a lot to me like gambling. Is gambling something we should encourage? And as with any form of gambling, there are winners and losers. What do the right-wing no-tax people suppose should happen to the losers? Is all the money they made “risk taking” so sacred that some of it can’t be taxed in part to help provide a social safety net for those less fortunate? And one more thing the right-wingers don’t comprehend, being more fortunate doesn’t necessarily mean you worked any harder.[/quote]

Folks who take risk by starting businesses is hardly what I would consider gambling. I don’t think you understand the concept of no risk no reward. Until recent times, it’s always been the case, since the it was far easier to to do what most everyone else is doing and just take a “safer” route….Well, that’s until government and unions got totally out of hand and started to get ridiculous compensation packages…

Deadzone, furthermore, why do you insist on this being a right-winger thing? If there’s anything to have been proven the past two years is that “left-leaning” government spends just as out of control and fatten their own wallets and/or grow the big fat government tape..How did any of this really benefit your sacred cow of the “less fortunate”? If at all any “leftist” government proved is they don’t give a shit about the “less fortunate” people anymore than the “rightist” government, except to fatten pensions and their own retirement benefits. But anyway, feel free to rail all you want on about our government, while they keep regular people squabling about political ideology that has long escaped both parties. Ha ha left-ist government helping the less fortunate…Ha ha ha.. That’s a good one….Just get use to the next 2 years…Otherwise it’s going to be a long 2 years, possibly 4 the way some things are going…

If everyone wants this country to get out of the mess it’s in, everyone needs to pay higher taxes…And if no one wants to pay, well fine by me too…

[Coronita]

[quote=deadzone][quote=flu][quote=deadzone]I’m tired of all the right wing rhetoric about “risk taking” and how taxes are unfair because people should be rewarded for “Taking risks”. All this talk about risk taking sounds a lot to me like gambling. Is gambling something we should encourage? And as with any form of gambling, there are winners and losers. What do the right-wing no-tax people suppose should happen to the losers? Is all the money they made “risk taking” so sacred that some of it can’t be taxed in part to help provide a social safety net for those less fortunate? And one more thing the right-wingers don’t comprehend, being more fortunate doesn’t necessarily mean you worked any harder.[/quote]

Folks who take risk by starting businesses is hardly what I would consider gambling. I don’t think you understand the concept of no risk no reward. Until recent times, it’s always been the case, since the it was far easier to to do what most everyone else is doing and just take a “safer” route….Well, that’s until government and unions got totally out of hand and started to get ridiculous compensation packages…

Deadzone, furthermore, why do you insist on this being a right-winger thing? If there’s anything to have been proven the past two years is that “left-leaning” government spends just as out of control and fatten their own wallets and/or grow the big fat government tape..How did any of this really benefit your sacred cow of the “less fortunate”? If at all any “leftist” government proved is they don’t give a shit about the “less fortunate” people anymore than the “rightist” government, except to fatten pensions and their own retirement benefits. But anyway, feel free to rail all you want on about our government, while they keep regular people squabling about political ideology that has long escaped both parties. Ha ha left-ist government helping the less fortunate…Ha ha ha.. That’s a good one….Just get use to the next 2 years…Otherwise it’s going to be a long 2 years, possibly 4 the way some things are going…

If everyone wants this country to get out of the mess it’s in, everyone needs to pay higher taxes…And if no one wants to pay, well fine by me too…

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