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October 27, 2007 at 12:15 AM #92408October 27, 2007 at 1:18 AM #92374
Eugene
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it escapes me why you thought that you could stop paying rent just because the property was headed into foreclosure. You have a contract with the owner of the property and it is your legal obligation to continue paying rent for this property for as long as the contract is valid. The contract terminates the day he loses possession of the house (the day he forecloses), not a single day sooner.
It is not in anybody’s interest to evict you as long as you keep paying rent. They will need to resolve their financial conflict one way or another, and they’d rather do that with someone living in the house bringing a stream of money than with the house standing empty and gathering dust. If you get evicted, it will be hard for them to find a new tenant, given this muddy situation.
My recommendation:
* Try to get both mother and son in the same room and have them come to an agreement as far as who’s supposed to get paid.
* If you can’t, you should _probably_ be paying to the mother. If there is a valid Assignment of Rents and the owner did in fact go in default on his second mortgage, holder of the second mortgage (mother) gains the right to collect rent from you. What arguments does the owner offer against that?
* Offer to pay at least one month worth of rent if you can’t pay them everything you owe.
* Keep an eye on the proceedings. If things get to the point where the property is finally foreclosed upon, you will probably get evicted anyway, be prepared for that.October 27, 2007 at 1:18 AM #92403Participant@marion
it escapes me why you thought that you could stop paying rent just because the property was headed into foreclosure. You have a contract with the owner of the property and it is your legal obligation to continue paying rent for this property for as long as the contract is valid. The contract terminates the day he loses possession of the house (the day he forecloses), not a single day sooner.
It is not in anybody’s interest to evict you as long as you keep paying rent. They will need to resolve their financial conflict one way or another, and they’d rather do that with someone living in the house bringing a stream of money than with the house standing empty and gathering dust. If you get evicted, it will be hard for them to find a new tenant, given this muddy situation.
My recommendation:
* Try to get both mother and son in the same room and have them come to an agreement as far as who’s supposed to get paid.
* If you can’t, you should _probably_ be paying to the mother. If there is a valid Assignment of Rents and the owner did in fact go in default on his second mortgage, holder of the second mortgage (mother) gains the right to collect rent from you. What arguments does the owner offer against that?
* Offer to pay at least one month worth of rent if you can’t pay them everything you owe.
* Keep an eye on the proceedings. If things get to the point where the property is finally foreclosed upon, you will probably get evicted anyway, be prepared for that.October 27, 2007 at 1:18 AM #92414Participant@marion
it escapes me why you thought that you could stop paying rent just because the property was headed into foreclosure. You have a contract with the owner of the property and it is your legal obligation to continue paying rent for this property for as long as the contract is valid. The contract terminates the day he loses possession of the house (the day he forecloses), not a single day sooner.
It is not in anybody’s interest to evict you as long as you keep paying rent. They will need to resolve their financial conflict one way or another, and they’d rather do that with someone living in the house bringing a stream of money than with the house standing empty and gathering dust. If you get evicted, it will be hard for them to find a new tenant, given this muddy situation.
My recommendation:
* Try to get both mother and son in the same room and have them come to an agreement as far as who’s supposed to get paid.
* If you can’t, you should _probably_ be paying to the mother. If there is a valid Assignment of Rents and the owner did in fact go in default on his second mortgage, holder of the second mortgage (mother) gains the right to collect rent from you. What arguments does the owner offer against that?
* Offer to pay at least one month worth of rent if you can’t pay them everything you owe.
* Keep an eye on the proceedings. If things get to the point where the property is finally foreclosed upon, you will probably get evicted anyway, be prepared for that.October 27, 2007 at 9:32 AM #92407sandiego
ParticipantSimilar story:
Man misdiagnosed with fatal cancer seeks compensation after spending life savings
Tuesday, May 8, 2007 | 12:05 PM ET
LONDON (AP) – A man who said he spent his life savings after being told he had months to live is seeking compensation after doctors conceded they had got the diagnosis wrong.
John Brandrick, 62, was told two years ago that he had terminal pancreatic cancer, Britain’s Press Association news agency reported. He decided to spend his remaining time in style, quitting his job and spending his savings on hotels, restaurants and holidays.
A year later, doctors at the Royal Cornwall Hospital in southwest England revised their diagnosis: Brandrick was suffering from pancreatitis, a non-fatal ailment.
“My life has been turned upside down by this,” Brandrick said. “I was told I had limited time to live. I got rid of everything – my car, my clothes, everything.”
Brandrick said he did not want to take the hospital to court, “but if they have made the wrong decision they should pay me something back.”
October 27, 2007 at 9:32 AM #92436ParticipantSimilar story:
Man misdiagnosed with fatal cancer seeks compensation after spending life savings
Tuesday, May 8, 2007 | 12:05 PM ET
LONDON (AP) – A man who said he spent his life savings after being told he had months to live is seeking compensation after doctors conceded they had got the diagnosis wrong.
John Brandrick, 62, was told two years ago that he had terminal pancreatic cancer, Britain’s Press Association news agency reported. He decided to spend his remaining time in style, quitting his job and spending his savings on hotels, restaurants and holidays.
A year later, doctors at the Royal Cornwall Hospital in southwest England revised their diagnosis: Brandrick was suffering from pancreatitis, a non-fatal ailment.
“My life has been turned upside down by this,” Brandrick said. “I was told I had limited time to live. I got rid of everything – my car, my clothes, everything.”
Brandrick said he did not want to take the hospital to court, “but if they have made the wrong decision they should pay me something back.”
October 27, 2007 at 9:32 AM #92447ParticipantSimilar story:
Man misdiagnosed with fatal cancer seeks compensation after spending life savings
Tuesday, May 8, 2007 | 12:05 PM ET
LONDON (AP) – A man who said he spent his life savings after being told he had months to live is seeking compensation after doctors conceded they had got the diagnosis wrong.
John Brandrick, 62, was told two years ago that he had terminal pancreatic cancer, Britain’s Press Association news agency reported. He decided to spend his remaining time in style, quitting his job and spending his savings on hotels, restaurants and holidays.
A year later, doctors at the Royal Cornwall Hospital in southwest England revised their diagnosis: Brandrick was suffering from pancreatitis, a non-fatal ailment.
“My life has been turned upside down by this,” Brandrick said. “I was told I had limited time to live. I got rid of everything – my car, my clothes, everything.”
Brandrick said he did not want to take the hospital to court, “but if they have made the wrong decision they should pay me something back.”
October 27, 2007 at 9:48 AM #92413bsrsharma
Participantmade the wrong decision
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October 27, 2007 at 9:48 AM #92453Participantmade the wrong decision
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October 27, 2007 at 10:55 AM #92425kaycee
Participant“Please understand, wer are NOT a Property Manager and we are not responsible for any repairs to the property during this rent assignment period until notified to the contrary.”
Okay, here are the things that stand out to me.
#1) I am NOT sending rent to anyone who tells me that they expect me to pay them but won’t fix anything that is broken.
#2) If anything breaks, the owner can’t fix it because he isn’t getting any rent
#3) It isn’t my job as a renter to do family therapy and I wouldn’t try.
#4) You’re on month to month anyway, so nobody can hold you to future rent.
#5) GET OUT NOW. You got two free months out of it, consider that payment for putting up with this circus. I’m a Navy wife and have moved my kids plenty. Your son will be fine. It is Sat. Hit the pavement and find somewhere to new to live by tomorrow nite. Seriously.
#6) Congrats on putting your life back together as a single Mom. If you did that, you can do this. MOVE, now. You and your son don’t need to involve yourself in another families issues.
Good luck!
October 27, 2007 at 10:55 AM #92454Participant“Please understand, wer are NOT a Property Manager and we are not responsible for any repairs to the property during this rent assignment period until notified to the contrary.”
Okay, here are the things that stand out to me.
#1) I am NOT sending rent to anyone who tells me that they expect me to pay them but won’t fix anything that is broken.
#2) If anything breaks, the owner can’t fix it because he isn’t getting any rent
#3) It isn’t my job as a renter to do family therapy and I wouldn’t try.
#4) You’re on month to month anyway, so nobody can hold you to future rent.
#5) GET OUT NOW. You got two free months out of it, consider that payment for putting up with this circus. I’m a Navy wife and have moved my kids plenty. Your son will be fine. It is Sat. Hit the pavement and find somewhere to new to live by tomorrow nite. Seriously.
#6) Congrats on putting your life back together as a single Mom. If you did that, you can do this. MOVE, now. You and your son don’t need to involve yourself in another families issues.
Good luck!
October 27, 2007 at 10:55 AM #92465Participant“Please understand, wer are NOT a Property Manager and we are not responsible for any repairs to the property during this rent assignment period until notified to the contrary.”
Okay, here are the things that stand out to me.
#1) I am NOT sending rent to anyone who tells me that they expect me to pay them but won’t fix anything that is broken.
#2) If anything breaks, the owner can’t fix it because he isn’t getting any rent
#3) It isn’t my job as a renter to do family therapy and I wouldn’t try.
#4) You’re on month to month anyway, so nobody can hold you to future rent.
#5) GET OUT NOW. You got two free months out of it, consider that payment for putting up with this circus. I’m a Navy wife and have moved my kids plenty. Your son will be fine. It is Sat. Hit the pavement and find somewhere to new to live by tomorrow nite. Seriously.
#6) Congrats on putting your life back together as a single Mom. If you did that, you can do this. MOVE, now. You and your son don’t need to involve yourself in another families issues.
Good luck!
October 27, 2007 at 11:36 AM #92443VoZangre
ParticipantHang up!!!
Do NOT engage, allow, this woman or the guy to bumrush you over the phone.
They are obviously caught up in a bizarre drama of their own making. ( Well, you helped a bit by not paying your rent.)
I’d follow those links sent by Mr Byrnes, thats some quality info…
get on your horse and HIGHTAIL it outta there…
October 27, 2007 at 11:36 AM #92472ParticipantHang up!!!
Do NOT engage, allow, this woman or the guy to bumrush you over the phone.
They are obviously caught up in a bizarre drama of their own making. ( Well, you helped a bit by not paying your rent.)
I’d follow those links sent by Mr Byrnes, thats some quality info…
get on your horse and HIGHTAIL it outta there…
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