Has libertarianism been exposed for the fraud that it is?

[jficquette]

No, but Socialism has.

[no_such_reality]

False! Gas isn’t that expensive in Europe.
[quote=dbapig]
You know most other industrialized non-oil producing countries ALREADY pay near that amt for gas, mainly by tariff/tax.
[/quote]

The price of petrol is running a little over a euro and a half per liter across most of Europe. Diesel is less.

That’s a little under $7/gallon for Petrol and $6/gallon for diesel.

Greece is currently having a horrible time, last year fuel was a euro a liter, now it’s 1.69. Even now, that’s only about $7.60/gallon.

SO if by close, you mean only it only has to double … otherwise, just fictional wishing.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/international/prices.html#Motor

[no_such_reality]

False! Gas isn’t that expensive in Europe.
[quote=dbapig]
You know most other industrialized non-oil producing countries ALREADY pay near that amt for gas, mainly by tariff/tax.
[/quote]

The price of petrol is running a little over a euro and a half per liter across most of Europe. Diesel is less.

That’s a little under $7/gallon for Petrol and $6/gallon for diesel.

Greece is currently having a horrible time, last year fuel was a euro a liter, now it’s 1.69. Even now, that’s only about $7.60/gallon.

SO if by close, you mean only it only has to double … otherwise, just fictional wishing.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/international/prices.html#Motor

[no_such_reality]

False! Gas isn’t that expensive in Europe.
[quote=dbapig]
You know most other industrialized non-oil producing countries ALREADY pay near that amt for gas, mainly by tariff/tax.
[/quote]

The price of petrol is running a little over a euro and a half per liter across most of Europe. Diesel is less.

That’s a little under $7/gallon for Petrol and $6/gallon for diesel.

Greece is currently having a horrible time, last year fuel was a euro a liter, now it’s 1.69. Even now, that’s only about $7.60/gallon.

SO if by close, you mean only it only has to double … otherwise, just fictional wishing.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/international/prices.html#Motor

[no_such_reality]

False! Gas isn’t that expensive in Europe.
[quote=dbapig]
You know most other industrialized non-oil producing countries ALREADY pay near that amt for gas, mainly by tariff/tax.
[/quote]

The price of petrol is running a little over a euro and a half per liter across most of Europe. Diesel is less.

That’s a little under $7/gallon for Petrol and $6/gallon for diesel.

Greece is currently having a horrible time, last year fuel was a euro a liter, now it’s 1.69. Even now, that’s only about $7.60/gallon.

SO if by close, you mean only it only has to double … otherwise, just fictional wishing.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/international/prices.html#Motor

[no_such_reality]

False! Gas isn’t that expensive in Europe.
[quote=dbapig]
You know most other industrialized non-oil producing countries ALREADY pay near that amt for gas, mainly by tariff/tax.
[/quote]

The price of petrol is running a little over a euro and a half per liter across most of Europe. Diesel is less.

That’s a little under $7/gallon for Petrol and $6/gallon for diesel.

Greece is currently having a horrible time, last year fuel was a euro a liter, now it’s 1.69. Even now, that’s only about $7.60/gallon.

SO if by close, you mean only it only has to double … otherwise, just fictional wishing.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/international/prices.html#Motor

[Anonymous]

Reading through the posts, it looks like most people agree that libertarianism doesn’t work in the real world. Briansd1 made some great points. It was also good to see Internet crazies like Allen labeling pre-CRA policies as racism.

I guess there is some hope for humanity yet.

By the way, does anyone here personally know this Allen guy? He seems to have some Fatal Attraction qualities to him. Every time I take a glance at this board, he’s bringing up my Pigg handle — even in threads I’ve never posted in. I’ve never seen someone so obsessed over someone else’s Internet handle. He must have some deficiencies in his personality that lead to him acting out his obsessive behavior on the Internet. Does that guy even have a job?

[Anonymous]

Reading through the posts, it looks like most people agree that libertarianism doesn’t work in the real world. Briansd1 made some great points. It was also good to see Internet crazies like Allen labeling pre-CRA policies as racism.

I guess there is some hope for humanity yet.

By the way, does anyone here personally know this Allen guy? He seems to have some Fatal Attraction qualities to him. Every time I take a glance at this board, he’s bringing up my Pigg handle — even in threads I’ve never posted in. I’ve never seen someone so obsessed over someone else’s Internet handle. He must have some deficiencies in his personality that lead to him acting out his obsessive behavior on the Internet. Does that guy even have a job?

[Anonymous]

Reading through the posts, it looks like most people agree that libertarianism doesn’t work in the real world. Briansd1 made some great points. It was also good to see Internet crazies like Allen labeling pre-CRA policies as racism.

I guess there is some hope for humanity yet.

By the way, does anyone here personally know this Allen guy? He seems to have some Fatal Attraction qualities to him. Every time I take a glance at this board, he’s bringing up my Pigg handle — even in threads I’ve never posted in. I’ve never seen someone so obsessed over someone else’s Internet handle. He must have some deficiencies in his personality that lead to him acting out his obsessive behavior on the Internet. Does that guy even have a job?

[Anonymous]

Reading through the posts, it looks like most people agree that libertarianism doesn’t work in the real world. Briansd1 made some great points. It was also good to see Internet crazies like Allen labeling pre-CRA policies as racism.

I guess there is some hope for humanity yet.

By the way, does anyone here personally know this Allen guy? He seems to have some Fatal Attraction qualities to him. Every time I take a glance at this board, he’s bringing up my Pigg handle — even in threads I’ve never posted in. I’ve never seen someone so obsessed over someone else’s Internet handle. He must have some deficiencies in his personality that lead to him acting out his obsessive behavior on the Internet. Does that guy even have a job?

[Anonymous]

Reading through the posts, it looks like most people agree that libertarianism doesn’t work in the real world. Briansd1 made some great points. It was also good to see Internet crazies like Allen labeling pre-CRA policies as racism.

I guess there is some hope for humanity yet.

By the way, does anyone here personally know this Allen guy? He seems to have some Fatal Attraction qualities to him. Every time I take a glance at this board, he’s bringing up my Pigg handle — even in threads I’ve never posted in. I’ve never seen someone so obsessed over someone else’s Internet handle. He must have some deficiencies in his personality that lead to him acting out his obsessive behavior on the Internet. Does that guy even have a job?

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=IForget]Reading through the posts, it looks like most people agree that libertarianism doesn’t work in the real world. Briansd1 made some great points. It was also good to see Internet crazies like Allen labeling pre-CRA policies as racism.

I guess there is some hope for humanity yet.

By the way, does anyone here personally know this Allen guy? He seems to have some Fatal Attraction qualities to him. Every time I take a glance at this board, he’s bringing up my Pigg handle — even in threads I’ve never posted in. I’ve never seen someone so obsessed over someone else’s Internet handle. He must have some deficiencies in his personality that lead to him acting out his obsessive behavior on the Internet. Does that guy even have a job?[/quote]

IForget: No, you’re right. I’m not gainfully employed, which gives me plenty of time to write rambling, Kaczynskiesque screeds and tinker in my basement making explosive devices that look like forest animals. Wait. No, that was “Caddyshack”.

I only bring you up because you’re a cheap Leftist hack, and like your devotee Brian, you never seem able to actually make a coherent, reasoned argument. This last little bit of ad hominem is just such an example. Yes, IForget, I’m crazy. Crazy because I use logic, facts and argue points based on same.

You want to debate using some actual ground rules? I’m all for it. You won’t and we both know it, just like you won’t hang around and subject your polemic or rhetoric to scrutiny, will you?

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=IForget]Reading through the posts, it looks like most people agree that libertarianism doesn’t work in the real world. Briansd1 made some great points. It was also good to see Internet crazies like Allen labeling pre-CRA policies as racism.

I guess there is some hope for humanity yet.

By the way, does anyone here personally know this Allen guy? He seems to have some Fatal Attraction qualities to him. Every time I take a glance at this board, he’s bringing up my Pigg handle — even in threads I’ve never posted in. I’ve never seen someone so obsessed over someone else’s Internet handle. He must have some deficiencies in his personality that lead to him acting out his obsessive behavior on the Internet. Does that guy even have a job?[/quote]

IForget: No, you’re right. I’m not gainfully employed, which gives me plenty of time to write rambling, Kaczynskiesque screeds and tinker in my basement making explosive devices that look like forest animals. Wait. No, that was “Caddyshack”.

I only bring you up because you’re a cheap Leftist hack, and like your devotee Brian, you never seem able to actually make a coherent, reasoned argument. This last little bit of ad hominem is just such an example. Yes, IForget, I’m crazy. Crazy because I use logic, facts and argue points based on same.

You want to debate using some actual ground rules? I’m all for it. You won’t and we both know it, just like you won’t hang around and subject your polemic or rhetoric to scrutiny, will you?

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=IForget]Reading through the posts, it looks like most people agree that libertarianism doesn’t work in the real world. Briansd1 made some great points. It was also good to see Internet crazies like Allen labeling pre-CRA policies as racism.

I guess there is some hope for humanity yet.

By the way, does anyone here personally know this Allen guy? He seems to have some Fatal Attraction qualities to him. Every time I take a glance at this board, he’s bringing up my Pigg handle — even in threads I’ve never posted in. I’ve never seen someone so obsessed over someone else’s Internet handle. He must have some deficiencies in his personality that lead to him acting out his obsessive behavior on the Internet. Does that guy even have a job?[/quote]

IForget: No, you’re right. I’m not gainfully employed, which gives me plenty of time to write rambling, Kaczynskiesque screeds and tinker in my basement making explosive devices that look like forest animals. Wait. No, that was “Caddyshack”.

I only bring you up because you’re a cheap Leftist hack, and like your devotee Brian, you never seem able to actually make a coherent, reasoned argument. This last little bit of ad hominem is just such an example. Yes, IForget, I’m crazy. Crazy because I use logic, facts and argue points based on same.

You want to debate using some actual ground rules? I’m all for it. You won’t and we both know it, just like you won’t hang around and subject your polemic or rhetoric to scrutiny, will you?

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=IForget]Reading through the posts, it looks like most people agree that libertarianism doesn’t work in the real world. Briansd1 made some great points. It was also good to see Internet crazies like Allen labeling pre-CRA policies as racism.

I guess there is some hope for humanity yet.

By the way, does anyone here personally know this Allen guy? He seems to have some Fatal Attraction qualities to him. Every time I take a glance at this board, he’s bringing up my Pigg handle — even in threads I’ve never posted in. I’ve never seen someone so obsessed over someone else’s Internet handle. He must have some deficiencies in his personality that lead to him acting out his obsessive behavior on the Internet. Does that guy even have a job?[/quote]

IForget: No, you’re right. I’m not gainfully employed, which gives me plenty of time to write rambling, Kaczynskiesque screeds and tinker in my basement making explosive devices that look like forest animals. Wait. No, that was “Caddyshack”.

I only bring you up because you’re a cheap Leftist hack, and like your devotee Brian, you never seem able to actually make a coherent, reasoned argument. This last little bit of ad hominem is just such an example. Yes, IForget, I’m crazy. Crazy because I use logic, facts and argue points based on same.

You want to debate using some actual ground rules? I’m all for it. You won’t and we both know it, just like you won’t hang around and subject your polemic or rhetoric to scrutiny, will you?

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