Goodbye to San Diego

[sdrealtor]

[quote=EconProf]Bingo. sdrealtor also mentioned it.

Population about 150,000 in the metropolitan area and growing like crazy. Zion National Park about 30 minutes away and Vegas two hours south. Weather a bit better than Phoenix and Vegas because of higher elevation–5-10 degrees cooler in summer and winter.
Because of its growth, everything is new there–stores, housing developments, national chains, etc. Everything within about a ten minute drive, on great roads, and I-15, which runs through it.
The people are young, have conservative politics, good schools (they largely did not close down from COVID, and in gyms few wear masks), no visible homeless people, and economy booming. Yes, I’ll invest in RE there.
The people are about two-thirds Mormon, which we are just fine with. Makes for large, healthy-looking families, hard workers, clean government, old-fashioned family values, low taxes.[/quote]

Looks like the guy who’s usually right was right again. First one to nail it:)

A buddies twin brother is bailing and going there also. Great for outdoorsy people. The drive through the Virgin River Canyon on 15 is one of my Top 5 drives in America. Like a real life video game. Went on a walk with a neighbor friend this weekend that has a place up in Brian Head. He grew up in Mass so loves the winter fun and snowmobiling up there. They have great golf courses in St George also.

That’s not a place I could ever live as I love being in the thick of things but I see the attraction for many. Congrats and enjoy!

[scaredyclassic]

Looked ok when i passed through. I was projecting, prescott i guess was for me. St geo. Sounds like a good place to end up. Good health, professor!

[svelte]

[quote=EconProf]Bingo. sdrealtor also mentioned it.

Population about 150,000 in the metropolitan area and growing like crazy. Zion National Park about 30 minutes away and Vegas two hours south. Weather a bit better than Phoenix and Vegas because of higher elevation–5-10 degrees cooler in summer and winter.
Because of its growth, everything is new there–stores, housing developments, national chains, etc. Everything within about a ten minute drive, on great roads, and I-15, which runs through it.
The people are young, have conservative politics, good schools (they largely did not close down from COVID, and in gyms few wear masks), no visible homeless people, and economy booming. Yes, I’ll invest in RE there.
The people are about two-thirds Mormon, which we are just fine with. Makes for large, healthy-looking families, hard workers, clean government, old-fashioned family values, low taxes.[/quote]

Congrats Econ. I’m happy for you!

[(former)FormerSanDiegan]

Interesting move EconProf…

Thanks for freeing up some space for those of us moving back to San Diego from more expensive places further north.
After 16-ish years we are planning to move back to San Diego later this year due to the relative affordability compared to LA’s Westside.

[sdrealtor]

[quote=FormerSanDiegan]Interesting move EconProf…

Thanks for freeing up some space for those of us moving back to San Diego from more expensive places further north.
After 16-ish years we are planning to move back to San Diego later this year due to the relative affordability compared to LA’s Westside.[/quote]

Youre not alone. Market here is on fire with folks pouring in from L.A. And Bay area. Not sure where your looking but follow the North County Coastal monitor for updates and feel free to ask questions

[EconProf]

I agree the market here is hot–we sold our house to the first couple that saw it and they took 20 minutes to say yes to our asking price. Yeah, I know. I should have asked more, but we are now tenants for two months while the St. George house gets finished.
Footnote: I said our property taxes would fall from over $16,000 per year to 3,000. That’s about one-half of one percent of the value of the house, which seems unrealistically low. A realtor gave me that figure and I’d like another source to confirm it, so don’t quote me. And yes, our SD house taxes included Mello Roos.
Agree that the SD market is hot, but the St. George market is hotter. Almost nothing sells for asking price, bidding wars are the norm, and loan contingencies in offers get nowhere. New developments are popping up all over, and Cedar City, an hour north on I-15 is just as hot, as is Hurricane, just north of St. George.
The population is exploding as new residents come in from everywhere, especially CA. Because St. George schools are largely open, teachers tell of CA parents desperate to get their kids into in-person learning, so some are living in St. George motels in order to do so.
All the contractors are overwhelmed with work. Imported workers live in motels or sleep in their vehicles in motel parking lots–probably to use the facilities of the room where their buddies are staying. One realtor told me tofigure on one and a half years to get a new house built.
While the SD and St. George markets are both hot, it is for different reasons, as perhaps sdrealtor can confirm. St. George is strong because of people moving in, while SD is strong because of lack of inventory. That lack of inventory due to COVID fears, plus expense of building here. And I also suspect tech refugees are deserting their shithole LA and Bay area cities to come to tech-friendly San Diego. Thoughts…?

[flyer]

Beautiful place, EP–all the best. I’m with you on avoiding high property taxes and mello, which we’ve managed to do. There are lots of beautiful places in the world, and we try to spend time in many of them–but San Diego and rsf will always be home–especially with our families fairly close.

[sdrealtor]

Surprised to hear you say they are hot for different reasons because this is economics 101. They are hot because demand is far greater than supply. More people are coming than leaving. Inventory is low here but there are ten buyers for most houses. Inventory is not that low. People are coming to both places because of what they have to offer

[spdrun]

Hot? You bet. St. George, UT gets positively *glowing* recommendations! Come for the alphas, stay for the gammas … and bring a survey meter along!

https://old.reddit.com/r/Utah/comments/lngd5s/downwinders_exposed_to_radioactive_fallout/

Oh, and average high in St. G in high scummer is 102F. Sounds like there’s a reason why it’s cheap. Denying COVID, throwing anyone who’s homeless in jail, and a religious monoculture? More selling points! But, hey, whatever floats your dinghy.

Given the choice of somewhere rural, I’d probably go to Maine. Just as beautiful, briskly cold in winter, and smart people who don’t try to cram their idea of G-d down your gullet.

[Coronita]

[quote=spdrun]Hot? You bet. St. George, UT gets positively *glowing* recommendations! Come for the alphas, stay for the gammas … and bring a survey meter along!

https://old.reddit.com/r/Utah/comments/lngd5s/downwinders_exposed_to_radioactive_fallout/

Oh, and average high in St. G in high scummer is 102F. Sounds like there’s a reason why it’s cheap. Denying COVID, throwing anyone who’s homeless in jail, and a religious monoculture? More selling points! But, hey, whatever floats your dinghy.

Given the choice of somewhere rural, I’d probably go to Maine. Just as beautiful, briskly cold in winter, and smart people who don’t try to cram their idea of G-d down your gullet.[/quote]

dude. Is there a reason why you need to be an asshole on this thread?

Congrats EconProf. Glad you found Zen in your life .

[scaredyclassic]

Maine. Ugh. Mosquitoes.

Utah. Moab. Cleaner.

[barnaby33]

I think you are over-romanticizing the Mo’s. Either way you’re writing as someone who’s smitten with a new adventure and hoping for the best.
Josh

[The-Shoveler]

Hope it works for you EP, I think you maybe could have gotten about 80% or so of what you are looking for in TV or maybe Fallbrook and been a bit cooler and still driving distance to beach but have fun!

[sdrealtor]

[quote=Coronita][quote=spdrun]Hot? You bet. St. George, UT gets positively *glowing* recommendations! Come for the alphas, stay for the gammas … and bring a survey meter along!

https://old.reddit.com/r/Utah/comments/lngd5s/downwinders_exposed_to_radioactive_fallout/

Oh, and average high in St. G in high scummer is 102F. Sounds like there’s a reason why it’s cheap. Denying COVID, throwing anyone who’s homeless in jail, and a religious monoculture? More selling points! But, hey, whatever floats your dinghy.

Given the choice of somewhere rural, I’d probably go to Maine. Just as beautiful, briskly cold in winter, and smart people who don’t try to cram their idea of G-d down your gullet.[/quote]

dude. Is there a reason why you need to be an asshole on this thread?

Congrats EconProf. Glad you found Zen in your life .[/quote]

LETDLITA

It’s postcard beautiful there

[sdrealtor]

[quote=barnaby33]I think you are over-romanticizing the Mo’s. Either way you’re writing as someone who’s smitten with a new adventure and hoping for the best.
Josh[/quote]

always the ray of sunshine 😉

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