Goodbye to San Diego

[Coronita]

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[svelte]

San Diego housing prices rose second highest in the nation.

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/business/real-estate/story/2021-07-27/san-diego-home-prices-now-up-25-in-a-year

And if you look at the list of top rising metro areas, looks split pretty well between blue and red. I notice no trend.

[sdrealtor]

Huh? The top markets are either turning blue or already blue.

[svelte]

[quote=sdrealtor]Huh? The top markets are either turning blue or already blue.[/quote]

Phoenix metro area – which is the only city with higher yoy home prices that San Diego – did indeed vote Biden in 2020 (50.1%), but it voted Trump in 2016. I think the Trump hatred is an anomaly and that Phoenix will return to red voting in 2024 (unless Trump runs).

Dallas/FW metro area – while it is true that Dallas is very blue, Ft Worth is very red. And it is the same with this area – 50.6% Biden in 2020 but voted Trump in 2016.

In my opinion, we’ll have to wait for another election cycle to see if they really are turning blue.

[sdrealtor]

You just made my case for me. While Phoenix could come back to GOP the trend is clearly blue in what was once Goldwater country. Dallas and Texas are behind them on the curve but again the trend is clear. Whether it gets to a blue majority is irrelevant. Prices are being driven by immigration from blue states. Even if we send red folks they are far more liberal than the old time conservatives in those states and politics will shift left as we export weed smoking, socially liberal Republicans.

[svelte]

[quote=sdrealtor]You just made my case for me. While Phoenix could come back to GOP the trend is clearly blue in what was once Goldwater country. Dallas and Texas are behind them on the curve but again the trend is clear. Whether it gets to a blue majority is irrelevant. Prices are being driven by immigration from blue states. Even if we send red folks they are far more liberal than the old time conservatives in those states and politics will shift left as we export weed smoking, socially liberal Republicans.[/quote]

Actually I didn’t. You’re reading things into the move from blue states to red states. EconProf is a prime example, as are other republicans I know who are currently migrating to Arizona/Utah.

“Whether it gets to a blue majority is irrelevant” is an amazing statement in the context of what I wrote…I said there was a mixture of red and blue cities in the list and you disagreed. Now you’re saying yeah well the red cities are more liberal now because republicans are more liberal. Apparently you are saying red = blue. Can’t disagree more.

[sdrealtor]

[quote=sdrealtor]Huh? The top markets are either turning blue or already blue.[/quote]

This is what I said. I stand by it and your post supported it. They are blue or turning blue

Yes guys like EP are moving but so are other more liberal, younger and non-white folks. The shift is happening in Phoenix and in Dallas

[svelte]

[quote=sdrealtor] The shift is happening in Phoenix and in Dallas[/quote]

Truth be told, Phoenix party registration by percentage of voters is moving away from both the Democratic and Republican parties:

GOP, Democrats losing ground to ‘other’ in metro Phoenix voter registration

There are still more Republicans that Democrats registered there though Republicans lost a few voters and Democrats picked up a few. “Other” is picking up the most ground and taking a bigger slice of the Phoenix voting population…the Rep and Dem shares are both dropping.

Texas doesn’t require voters to select a political party when registering, so the Dallas/Ft Worth metro area is harder to measure.

[sdrealtor]

Those Phoenix numbers are minute. A few thousand voters. Arizona was reliably deep red for decades. Not any more. The non white population is growing and it has become more progressive through retirees and influx of high tech white collar professionals. There is no argument it is a more progressive than it was 20 years ago

[The-Shoveler]

IMO Even California has flipped several times from blue to red and back again. Would not surprise me too much to see if flip again someday. Not every republican is white as well.

[sdrealtor]

Of course over time anything could happen. And non-whites are overwhelming not republican taken as whole

[barnaby33]

I’m always deeply suspect of anyone who conflates growth in Latino populations with a leftward political shift. Most Latinos are very conservative. They may have voted more liberal because of wedge issues, but for the most part their values align better with conservatives/Republicans.
Josh

[sdrealtor]

I did not specifically call out Latino but since you asked they lose votes based upon perceived racism and anit-immigration postiions in the party

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanic_and_Latino_Americans_in_politics

[sdrealtor]

Looks like they may hit 110 tomorrow in St George.

[scaredyclassic]

Indios 120. Humans live there. But how.

I once left a bottle of wine in my car out there by mistake and it exploded.

My new life plan is to spend every July or aug in Vermont. Maybe I need a Burlington timeshare.

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