Golf Communities

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I am looking for input on the best golf communities. I like Bridges and Covenant, some others I have not seen. Prices appear to be starting to crack in Bridges a little; builders own several empty homes there. Any input on these and Santaluz, Crosby, DMCC, Farms, etc? Looking in the 1.7- 2.7 range; need 4+ BR. Any input and pricing thoughts ($/sf) are appreciated.

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Search the site for posts from Raptorduck. He has been looking in those areas for several months. It is one of the best analytical/factual threads on Piggington. That will answer your questions pretty well.

[tothjj]

pf
Search the site for posts from Raptorduck. He has been looking in those areas for several months. It is one of the best analytical/factual threads on Piggington. That will answer your questions pretty well.

[tothjj]

pf
Search the site for posts from Raptorduck. He has been looking in those areas for several months. It is one of the best analytical/factual threads on Piggington. That will answer your questions pretty well.

[tothjj]

pf
Search the site for posts from Raptorduck. He has been looking in those areas for several months. It is one of the best analytical/factual threads on Piggington. That will answer your questions pretty well.

[tothjj]

pf
Search the site for posts from Raptorduck. He has been looking in those areas for several months. It is one of the best analytical/factual threads on Piggington. That will answer your questions pretty well.

[raptorduck]

I have looked at many homes in the “golf” communities of the RSF area and you can find my views of them on any of my many posts, I will give a core dump below. If you have more detailed questions, just ask and I will do my best based on my info gathering to date.

For the record, I don’t play golf. I took lessons years ago and went to the driving range 3 times per week for a while and managed to get my average score to an unimpressive 114. Put it this way, my golf bag and golf balls are flourscent green. You can guess how long it has been since I played.

Ok. This is just golf communities I have looked at. I am not looking for a “golf” community, if there is a course, so be it, but that is not in my criteria. My perspective is the homes, area, and club, not playing the course. All I can tell you about the courses is that they are green, though I can speak to how they um “look.”

Bridges.

Area: Very very nice. Very high brow. Beautiful neighborhoods. Guard gated. A bit isolated.

Homes: Very high quality. Lots tend to be smaller than I wanted (under 1 acre). Prices a tad high for the sf and lot size IMHO.

Club: Wow, very fancy and great architecture. You need to dress up to go to the club.

Course: This is a very “wooded” golf course for this area. Lots of mature trees line it. This “forest” of sorts seperates the homesites from the course, so you always have a partial view of the course, not a full one. Now folks at other golf communities critizized this aspect of the Bridges, but I like it. That means you have an area that is brand new, but hits of the mature landscaping of Fairbanks Ranch (not a golf community). I love the views from the homes of the course in this community.

Crosby.

Area: Very very nice guard gated. Great bridges. Open, rolling. Well maintained. Access to 56 through Del Sur and Santa Luz. Main entry on Del Dios Highway.

Homes: Very high quality, beautiful, large. Lots, too small for my taste and odd orientations and locations. Some along golf course with ok views of it. Other views are of Cielo. Not as pricy as the Bridges. It has a Mello Roos tax.

Club: Two of them, very very nice. Great amenities. Among my favorite clubs. Not as high brow as the Bridges. Pricy, but the Bridges was more pricy.

Course: Well it seems to be lined with canyons and looks quite challenging to me with tees high above the hole and lots of hazards in between. Some trees, but not as wooded as the Bridges.

Rancho Santa Fe Farms

Area: Very nice, good location. Guard gated. A bit hilly.

Homes. Very nice, good quality to high quality. Lots too small for my taste and not that kid friendly. They are set high above the golf course, which means a steep hill off your infinity edge pool. Great views, but if you have a todler, he/she might go sailing off the edge. Lots are smallish and not that usable since they are not very flat. (again my measure is 1 acre or more for a lot).

Club. Did not get to tour it.

Course. Very open. No obstructions from homesites. Not many trees.

Meadows Del Mar

Area: In Carmel Valley (San Diego) and most convenient if you commute into the Golden Triangle. Guard Gated. Great schools. Very close to beach.

Homes: Beautiful Tuscan flavor. Lots are tiny, under 1/2 acre for the most part. Homes are a bit compressed. Not huge, but good sizes, 4k-7k sf homes. Prices are comming down, way too high for the lot size, but not for the houses.

Club: Beautiful resort style ameneties.

Course: Not very wooded, open feel. Some slopes. Apparently well regarded course.

Santaluz

Area: Like you transplanted yourself to Tuscany. Very different than anything you will find in the area. Just beautiful and peaceful. Rolling open hills terrain. Great neighborhoods and community amenities. Guard gated. Good location near 56 and RSF. Part of SD and you have a Mello Roos tax. My favorite community for families with young kids.

Homes: Wide range of mostly Tuscan and simlar styles. Lot sizes range widely as well up to 2 acres or so. Broad range of prices. Relative to the above, not pricy as this area has the strongest price pressure. Lots of people bought in the peak and lots of developer owned homes means lots of price opportunities for buyers. Overpriced vs other communities, but not necessarily vs. other “golf” communities.

Club: Two of them, both very very nice and very very family friendly. The golf club is quite nice. Not as opulent as the bridges, but enough for my taste, probably even more than for my taste.

Golf. Very open, no trees, rolling terrain. Probably easiest to play I suppose, but what do I know.

[raptorduck]

I have looked at many homes in the “golf” communities of the RSF area and you can find my views of them on any of my many posts, I will give a core dump below. If you have more detailed questions, just ask and I will do my best based on my info gathering to date.

For the record, I don’t play golf. I took lessons years ago and went to the driving range 3 times per week for a while and managed to get my average score to an unimpressive 114. Put it this way, my golf bag and golf balls are flourscent green. You can guess how long it has been since I played.

Ok. This is just golf communities I have looked at. I am not looking for a “golf” community, if there is a course, so be it, but that is not in my criteria. My perspective is the homes, area, and club, not playing the course. All I can tell you about the courses is that they are green, though I can speak to how they um “look.”

Bridges.

Area: Very very nice. Very high brow. Beautiful neighborhoods. Guard gated. A bit isolated.

Homes: Very high quality. Lots tend to be smaller than I wanted (under 1 acre). Prices a tad high for the sf and lot size IMHO.

Club: Wow, very fancy and great architecture. You need to dress up to go to the club.

Course: This is a very “wooded” golf course for this area. Lots of mature trees line it. This “forest” of sorts seperates the homesites from the course, so you always have a partial view of the course, not a full one. Now folks at other golf communities critizized this aspect of the Bridges, but I like it. That means you have an area that is brand new, but hits of the mature landscaping of Fairbanks Ranch (not a golf community). I love the views from the homes of the course in this community.

Crosby.

Area: Very very nice guard gated. Great bridges. Open, rolling. Well maintained. Access to 56 through Del Sur and Santa Luz. Main entry on Del Dios Highway.

Homes: Very high quality, beautiful, large. Lots, too small for my taste and odd orientations and locations. Some along golf course with ok views of it. Other views are of Cielo. Not as pricy as the Bridges. It has a Mello Roos tax.

Club: Two of them, very very nice. Great amenities. Among my favorite clubs. Not as high brow as the Bridges. Pricy, but the Bridges was more pricy.

Course: Well it seems to be lined with canyons and looks quite challenging to me with tees high above the hole and lots of hazards in between. Some trees, but not as wooded as the Bridges.

Rancho Santa Fe Farms

Area: Very nice, good location. Guard gated. A bit hilly.

Homes. Very nice, good quality to high quality. Lots too small for my taste and not that kid friendly. They are set high above the golf course, which means a steep hill off your infinity edge pool. Great views, but if you have a todler, he/she might go sailing off the edge. Lots are smallish and not that usable since they are not very flat. (again my measure is 1 acre or more for a lot).

Club. Did not get to tour it.

Course. Very open. No obstructions from homesites. Not many trees.

Meadows Del Mar

Area: In Carmel Valley (San Diego) and most convenient if you commute into the Golden Triangle. Guard Gated. Great schools. Very close to beach.

Homes: Beautiful Tuscan flavor. Lots are tiny, under 1/2 acre for the most part. Homes are a bit compressed. Not huge, but good sizes, 4k-7k sf homes. Prices are comming down, way too high for the lot size, but not for the houses.

Club: Beautiful resort style ameneties.

Course: Not very wooded, open feel. Some slopes. Apparently well regarded course.

Santaluz

Area: Like you transplanted yourself to Tuscany. Very different than anything you will find in the area. Just beautiful and peaceful. Rolling open hills terrain. Great neighborhoods and community amenities. Guard gated. Good location near 56 and RSF. Part of SD and you have a Mello Roos tax. My favorite community for families with young kids.

Homes: Wide range of mostly Tuscan and simlar styles. Lot sizes range widely as well up to 2 acres or so. Broad range of prices. Relative to the above, not pricy as this area has the strongest price pressure. Lots of people bought in the peak and lots of developer owned homes means lots of price opportunities for buyers. Overpriced vs other communities, but not necessarily vs. other “golf” communities.

Club: Two of them, both very very nice and very very family friendly. The golf club is quite nice. Not as opulent as the bridges, but enough for my taste, probably even more than for my taste.

Golf. Very open, no trees, rolling terrain. Probably easiest to play I suppose, but what do I know.

[raptorduck]

I have looked at many homes in the “golf” communities of the RSF area and you can find my views of them on any of my many posts, I will give a core dump below. If you have more detailed questions, just ask and I will do my best based on my info gathering to date.

For the record, I don’t play golf. I took lessons years ago and went to the driving range 3 times per week for a while and managed to get my average score to an unimpressive 114. Put it this way, my golf bag and golf balls are flourscent green. You can guess how long it has been since I played.

Ok. This is just golf communities I have looked at. I am not looking for a “golf” community, if there is a course, so be it, but that is not in my criteria. My perspective is the homes, area, and club, not playing the course. All I can tell you about the courses is that they are green, though I can speak to how they um “look.”

Bridges.

Area: Very very nice. Very high brow. Beautiful neighborhoods. Guard gated. A bit isolated.

Homes: Very high quality. Lots tend to be smaller than I wanted (under 1 acre). Prices a tad high for the sf and lot size IMHO.

Club: Wow, very fancy and great architecture. You need to dress up to go to the club.

Course: This is a very “wooded” golf course for this area. Lots of mature trees line it. This “forest” of sorts seperates the homesites from the course, so you always have a partial view of the course, not a full one. Now folks at other golf communities critizized this aspect of the Bridges, but I like it. That means you have an area that is brand new, but hits of the mature landscaping of Fairbanks Ranch (not a golf community). I love the views from the homes of the course in this community.

Crosby.

Area: Very very nice guard gated. Great bridges. Open, rolling. Well maintained. Access to 56 through Del Sur and Santa Luz. Main entry on Del Dios Highway.

Homes: Very high quality, beautiful, large. Lots, too small for my taste and odd orientations and locations. Some along golf course with ok views of it. Other views are of Cielo. Not as pricy as the Bridges. It has a Mello Roos tax.

Club: Two of them, very very nice. Great amenities. Among my favorite clubs. Not as high brow as the Bridges. Pricy, but the Bridges was more pricy.

Course: Well it seems to be lined with canyons and looks quite challenging to me with tees high above the hole and lots of hazards in between. Some trees, but not as wooded as the Bridges.

Rancho Santa Fe Farms

Area: Very nice, good location. Guard gated. A bit hilly.

Homes. Very nice, good quality to high quality. Lots too small for my taste and not that kid friendly. They are set high above the golf course, which means a steep hill off your infinity edge pool. Great views, but if you have a todler, he/she might go sailing off the edge. Lots are smallish and not that usable since they are not very flat. (again my measure is 1 acre or more for a lot).

Club. Did not get to tour it.

Course. Very open. No obstructions from homesites. Not many trees.

Meadows Del Mar

Area: In Carmel Valley (San Diego) and most convenient if you commute into the Golden Triangle. Guard Gated. Great schools. Very close to beach.

Homes: Beautiful Tuscan flavor. Lots are tiny, under 1/2 acre for the most part. Homes are a bit compressed. Not huge, but good sizes, 4k-7k sf homes. Prices are comming down, way too high for the lot size, but not for the houses.

Club: Beautiful resort style ameneties.

Course: Not very wooded, open feel. Some slopes. Apparently well regarded course.

Santaluz

Area: Like you transplanted yourself to Tuscany. Very different than anything you will find in the area. Just beautiful and peaceful. Rolling open hills terrain. Great neighborhoods and community amenities. Guard gated. Good location near 56 and RSF. Part of SD and you have a Mello Roos tax. My favorite community for families with young kids.

Homes: Wide range of mostly Tuscan and simlar styles. Lot sizes range widely as well up to 2 acres or so. Broad range of prices. Relative to the above, not pricy as this area has the strongest price pressure. Lots of people bought in the peak and lots of developer owned homes means lots of price opportunities for buyers. Overpriced vs other communities, but not necessarily vs. other “golf” communities.

Club: Two of them, both very very nice and very very family friendly. The golf club is quite nice. Not as opulent as the bridges, but enough for my taste, probably even more than for my taste.

Golf. Very open, no trees, rolling terrain. Probably easiest to play I suppose, but what do I know.

[raptorduck]

I have looked at many homes in the “golf” communities of the RSF area and you can find my views of them on any of my many posts, I will give a core dump below. If you have more detailed questions, just ask and I will do my best based on my info gathering to date.

For the record, I don’t play golf. I took lessons years ago and went to the driving range 3 times per week for a while and managed to get my average score to an unimpressive 114. Put it this way, my golf bag and golf balls are flourscent green. You can guess how long it has been since I played.

Ok. This is just golf communities I have looked at. I am not looking for a “golf” community, if there is a course, so be it, but that is not in my criteria. My perspective is the homes, area, and club, not playing the course. All I can tell you about the courses is that they are green, though I can speak to how they um “look.”

Bridges.

Area: Very very nice. Very high brow. Beautiful neighborhoods. Guard gated. A bit isolated.

Homes: Very high quality. Lots tend to be smaller than I wanted (under 1 acre). Prices a tad high for the sf and lot size IMHO.

Club: Wow, very fancy and great architecture. You need to dress up to go to the club.

Course: This is a very “wooded” golf course for this area. Lots of mature trees line it. This “forest” of sorts seperates the homesites from the course, so you always have a partial view of the course, not a full one. Now folks at other golf communities critizized this aspect of the Bridges, but I like it. That means you have an area that is brand new, but hits of the mature landscaping of Fairbanks Ranch (not a golf community). I love the views from the homes of the course in this community.

Crosby.

Area: Very very nice guard gated. Great bridges. Open, rolling. Well maintained. Access to 56 through Del Sur and Santa Luz. Main entry on Del Dios Highway.

Homes: Very high quality, beautiful, large. Lots, too small for my taste and odd orientations and locations. Some along golf course with ok views of it. Other views are of Cielo. Not as pricy as the Bridges. It has a Mello Roos tax.

Club: Two of them, very very nice. Great amenities. Among my favorite clubs. Not as high brow as the Bridges. Pricy, but the Bridges was more pricy.

Course: Well it seems to be lined with canyons and looks quite challenging to me with tees high above the hole and lots of hazards in between. Some trees, but not as wooded as the Bridges.

Rancho Santa Fe Farms

Area: Very nice, good location. Guard gated. A bit hilly.

Homes. Very nice, good quality to high quality. Lots too small for my taste and not that kid friendly. They are set high above the golf course, which means a steep hill off your infinity edge pool. Great views, but if you have a todler, he/she might go sailing off the edge. Lots are smallish and not that usable since they are not very flat. (again my measure is 1 acre or more for a lot).

Club. Did not get to tour it.

Course. Very open. No obstructions from homesites. Not many trees.

Meadows Del Mar

Area: In Carmel Valley (San Diego) and most convenient if you commute into the Golden Triangle. Guard Gated. Great schools. Very close to beach.

Homes: Beautiful Tuscan flavor. Lots are tiny, under 1/2 acre for the most part. Homes are a bit compressed. Not huge, but good sizes, 4k-7k sf homes. Prices are comming down, way too high for the lot size, but not for the houses.

Club: Beautiful resort style ameneties.

Course: Not very wooded, open feel. Some slopes. Apparently well regarded course.

Santaluz

Area: Like you transplanted yourself to Tuscany. Very different than anything you will find in the area. Just beautiful and peaceful. Rolling open hills terrain. Great neighborhoods and community amenities. Guard gated. Good location near 56 and RSF. Part of SD and you have a Mello Roos tax. My favorite community for families with young kids.

Homes: Wide range of mostly Tuscan and simlar styles. Lot sizes range widely as well up to 2 acres or so. Broad range of prices. Relative to the above, not pricy as this area has the strongest price pressure. Lots of people bought in the peak and lots of developer owned homes means lots of price opportunities for buyers. Overpriced vs other communities, but not necessarily vs. other “golf” communities.

Club: Two of them, both very very nice and very very family friendly. The golf club is quite nice. Not as opulent as the bridges, but enough for my taste, probably even more than for my taste.

Golf. Very open, no trees, rolling terrain. Probably easiest to play I suppose, but what do I know.

[raptorduck]

I have looked at many homes in the “golf” communities of the RSF area and you can find my views of them on any of my many posts, I will give a core dump below. If you have more detailed questions, just ask and I will do my best based on my info gathering to date.

For the record, I don’t play golf. I took lessons years ago and went to the driving range 3 times per week for a while and managed to get my average score to an unimpressive 114. Put it this way, my golf bag and golf balls are flourscent green. You can guess how long it has been since I played.

Ok. This is just golf communities I have looked at. I am not looking for a “golf” community, if there is a course, so be it, but that is not in my criteria. My perspective is the homes, area, and club, not playing the course. All I can tell you about the courses is that they are green, though I can speak to how they um “look.”

Bridges.

Area: Very very nice. Very high brow. Beautiful neighborhoods. Guard gated. A bit isolated.

Homes: Very high quality. Lots tend to be smaller than I wanted (under 1 acre). Prices a tad high for the sf and lot size IMHO.

Club: Wow, very fancy and great architecture. You need to dress up to go to the club.

Course: This is a very “wooded” golf course for this area. Lots of mature trees line it. This “forest” of sorts seperates the homesites from the course, so you always have a partial view of the course, not a full one. Now folks at other golf communities critizized this aspect of the Bridges, but I like it. That means you have an area that is brand new, but hits of the mature landscaping of Fairbanks Ranch (not a golf community). I love the views from the homes of the course in this community.

Crosby.

Area: Very very nice guard gated. Great bridges. Open, rolling. Well maintained. Access to 56 through Del Sur and Santa Luz. Main entry on Del Dios Highway.

Homes: Very high quality, beautiful, large. Lots, too small for my taste and odd orientations and locations. Some along golf course with ok views of it. Other views are of Cielo. Not as pricy as the Bridges. It has a Mello Roos tax.

Club: Two of them, very very nice. Great amenities. Among my favorite clubs. Not as high brow as the Bridges. Pricy, but the Bridges was more pricy.

Course: Well it seems to be lined with canyons and looks quite challenging to me with tees high above the hole and lots of hazards in between. Some trees, but not as wooded as the Bridges.

Rancho Santa Fe Farms

Area: Very nice, good location. Guard gated. A bit hilly.

Homes. Very nice, good quality to high quality. Lots too small for my taste and not that kid friendly. They are set high above the golf course, which means a steep hill off your infinity edge pool. Great views, but if you have a todler, he/she might go sailing off the edge. Lots are smallish and not that usable since they are not very flat. (again my measure is 1 acre or more for a lot).

Club. Did not get to tour it.

Course. Very open. No obstructions from homesites. Not many trees.

Meadows Del Mar

Area: In Carmel Valley (San Diego) and most convenient if you commute into the Golden Triangle. Guard Gated. Great schools. Very close to beach.

Homes: Beautiful Tuscan flavor. Lots are tiny, under 1/2 acre for the most part. Homes are a bit compressed. Not huge, but good sizes, 4k-7k sf homes. Prices are comming down, way too high for the lot size, but not for the houses.

Club: Beautiful resort style ameneties.

Course: Not very wooded, open feel. Some slopes. Apparently well regarded course.

Santaluz

Area: Like you transplanted yourself to Tuscany. Very different than anything you will find in the area. Just beautiful and peaceful. Rolling open hills terrain. Great neighborhoods and community amenities. Guard gated. Good location near 56 and RSF. Part of SD and you have a Mello Roos tax. My favorite community for families with young kids.

Homes: Wide range of mostly Tuscan and simlar styles. Lot sizes range widely as well up to 2 acres or so. Broad range of prices. Relative to the above, not pricy as this area has the strongest price pressure. Lots of people bought in the peak and lots of developer owned homes means lots of price opportunities for buyers. Overpriced vs other communities, but not necessarily vs. other “golf” communities.

Club: Two of them, both very very nice and very very family friendly. The golf club is quite nice. Not as opulent as the bridges, but enough for my taste, probably even more than for my taste.

Golf. Very open, no trees, rolling terrain. Probably easiest to play I suppose, but what do I know.

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