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[quote=fredo4]
Defensive, defensive… [/quote]

File under: Pot calls kettle black. Yes, it’s always the OTHER person in the discussion that’s being defensive. Funny how that happens.

What I find amusing about this sort of discussion is that when I point out attributes of apes or prehistoric man or whathaveyou, most folks probably nod their heads and say, “Yes, yes, right…” Because when you point out characteristics of these groups, they’re just viewed as scientific observations about which there is little debate. There’s no positive or negative connotation. For example, no one views the alpha-male implications of primate societies (re: dominance/promiscuity of the alphas) as a good or bad thing. It’s just the way it is – just pure observation. As humans we want to believe that we have no stake in the implications.

It’s only when similar attributes – the ones that many humans view as culturally negative (promiscuity, for example) – get applied to HUMAN behavior that folks start getting upset. Because observation gets trumped by culture – “Hold on, this is getting a little personal now.”

I, for one, don’t view most humans’ inability to stay monogamous as a negative thing. It’s just a fact – neither positive nor negative. It just “is.” However, because YOU view it is a negative, YOU think that I’m a “grouch” (a negative implication) for believing this. This attitude says a whole lot more about you than it does about me.

Personally, I love living among the earthlings – despite (or perhaps because of?) all the mental confusion – no matter what kind of craziness they stir up!

[zzz]

I have to agree that I believe most people cheat, period. I have seen too much inappropriate behavior amongst men and woman, married or in a long term committed relationship. Cheating is to me a broader definition that includes messing around with someone without doing the deed. In other words, I don’t use the Bill Clinton dictionary.

I also have to agree that its often the ones that appear the least likely to cheat are probably cheating but GREAT about hiding it.

I have friends who everyone thinks they have such the perfect family, that the husband is amazing, and guess what, he cheats. He doesn’t carry on affairs nor a regular fling, but when he sees a piece of cake that he wants, he eats it. As one man described it to me, just because your favorite food is lasagna doesn’t mean you want to eat it EVERY day, every meal. You might actually want spaghetti, or mexican or chinese.

A LARGE number of woman I know are insecure, I would say the majority of all woman I’ve ever known. They can be smart, beautiful, have a great husband or boyfriend, and yet they still feel insecure. So they cheat because they NEED male attention.

I think most people are completely oblivious to the dynamics between other couples. How can you really know what happens between 2 people? There is a lot of cheating going on that none of us ever hear about nor see.

[zzz]

I have to agree that I believe most people cheat, period. I have seen too much inappropriate behavior amongst men and woman, married or in a long term committed relationship. Cheating is to me a broader definition that includes messing around with someone without doing the deed. In other words, I don’t use the Bill Clinton dictionary.

I also have to agree that its often the ones that appear the least likely to cheat are probably cheating but GREAT about hiding it.

I have friends who everyone thinks they have such the perfect family, that the husband is amazing, and guess what, he cheats. He doesn’t carry on affairs nor a regular fling, but when he sees a piece of cake that he wants, he eats it. As one man described it to me, just because your favorite food is lasagna doesn’t mean you want to eat it EVERY day, every meal. You might actually want spaghetti, or mexican or chinese.

A LARGE number of woman I know are insecure, I would say the majority of all woman I’ve ever known. They can be smart, beautiful, have a great husband or boyfriend, and yet they still feel insecure. So they cheat because they NEED male attention.

I think most people are completely oblivious to the dynamics between other couples. How can you really know what happens between 2 people? There is a lot of cheating going on that none of us ever hear about nor see.

[zzz]

I have to agree that I believe most people cheat, period. I have seen too much inappropriate behavior amongst men and woman, married or in a long term committed relationship. Cheating is to me a broader definition that includes messing around with someone without doing the deed. In other words, I don’t use the Bill Clinton dictionary.

I also have to agree that its often the ones that appear the least likely to cheat are probably cheating but GREAT about hiding it.

I have friends who everyone thinks they have such the perfect family, that the husband is amazing, and guess what, he cheats. He doesn’t carry on affairs nor a regular fling, but when he sees a piece of cake that he wants, he eats it. As one man described it to me, just because your favorite food is lasagna doesn’t mean you want to eat it EVERY day, every meal. You might actually want spaghetti, or mexican or chinese.

A LARGE number of woman I know are insecure, I would say the majority of all woman I’ve ever known. They can be smart, beautiful, have a great husband or boyfriend, and yet they still feel insecure. So they cheat because they NEED male attention.

I think most people are completely oblivious to the dynamics between other couples. How can you really know what happens between 2 people? There is a lot of cheating going on that none of us ever hear about nor see.

[zzz]

I have to agree that I believe most people cheat, period. I have seen too much inappropriate behavior amongst men and woman, married or in a long term committed relationship. Cheating is to me a broader definition that includes messing around with someone without doing the deed. In other words, I don’t use the Bill Clinton dictionary.

I also have to agree that its often the ones that appear the least likely to cheat are probably cheating but GREAT about hiding it.

I have friends who everyone thinks they have such the perfect family, that the husband is amazing, and guess what, he cheats. He doesn’t carry on affairs nor a regular fling, but when he sees a piece of cake that he wants, he eats it. As one man described it to me, just because your favorite food is lasagna doesn’t mean you want to eat it EVERY day, every meal. You might actually want spaghetti, or mexican or chinese.

A LARGE number of woman I know are insecure, I would say the majority of all woman I’ve ever known. They can be smart, beautiful, have a great husband or boyfriend, and yet they still feel insecure. So they cheat because they NEED male attention.

I think most people are completely oblivious to the dynamics between other couples. How can you really know what happens between 2 people? There is a lot of cheating going on that none of us ever hear about nor see.

[zzz]

I have to agree that I believe most people cheat, period. I have seen too much inappropriate behavior amongst men and woman, married or in a long term committed relationship. Cheating is to me a broader definition that includes messing around with someone without doing the deed. In other words, I don’t use the Bill Clinton dictionary.

I also have to agree that its often the ones that appear the least likely to cheat are probably cheating but GREAT about hiding it.

I have friends who everyone thinks they have such the perfect family, that the husband is amazing, and guess what, he cheats. He doesn’t carry on affairs nor a regular fling, but when he sees a piece of cake that he wants, he eats it. As one man described it to me, just because your favorite food is lasagna doesn’t mean you want to eat it EVERY day, every meal. You might actually want spaghetti, or mexican or chinese.

A LARGE number of woman I know are insecure, I would say the majority of all woman I’ve ever known. They can be smart, beautiful, have a great husband or boyfriend, and yet they still feel insecure. So they cheat because they NEED male attention.

I think most people are completely oblivious to the dynamics between other couples. How can you really know what happens between 2 people? There is a lot of cheating going on that none of us ever hear about nor see.

[CBad]

You know, apes fling their own poo at each other as well and I’d like to think some of us have evolved beyond that.

[CBad]

You know, apes fling their own poo at each other as well and I’d like to think some of us have evolved beyond that.

[CBad]

You know, apes fling their own poo at each other as well and I’d like to think some of us have evolved beyond that.

[CBad]

You know, apes fling their own poo at each other as well and I’d like to think some of us have evolved beyond that.

[CBad]

You know, apes fling their own poo at each other as well and I’d like to think some of us have evolved beyond that.

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